There's no continuation of that sentence. It's either you support it or you don't. People are pretty good at spinning words here.
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SIE PR denied reports of "new" rules for sexual content, refer to global standard over CERO for Japanese games with sexually explicit contents
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True. Which is why this thread has been, to put it overly politely, an interesting read
Yup, and I would arguably include Koei Tecmo and Spike Chunsoft in that as well.(I don't think NIS has had anything hit by this?)
With IF(and/or Compile Heart) it's quite obviously had an effect because its definitely not a coincidence that they're all of a sudden bringing some of their games to Nintendo Switch(specifically one that was hit by this policy and isn't coming west on PS4 as far as we know).
Its affecting way more than just the niche companies, as Sony still has the stupid rule where all the paperwork must be filed in English. That is just a waste of time and money, especially for games not planned to be localized.
Because it seems Sony isn't entirely comfortable offering pedo games a platform anymore (at least without modifications). Laws don't necessarily prevent the release of games with sexualized cartoon children, unfortunately. Doesn't mean platform holders should welcome those games with open arms.
Yeah, not gonna lie its pretty dumb. In no world is the character they're talking about 7 years old lol.
Who acts like a child, looks like a child. Are you serious with this?
There is a reason why "1000 year old dragon" is a common complaint.
As if there are no 18 year olds who are short, have slim figures and act naive.
If you want to act naive about this then be my guest.
I am tired of making this argument so many times. It never ends.
How rare they are, actually?
Funny how common they are in Japanese games and media. You can't have a group of anime girls without one that fit that description.
Let's us not forget there are also humans in real life that look like 16 year old's that are actually in their mid twenty's, but anime can't look like that because it's wrong!
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I mean last time I got asked my ID was at 27y because I always looked very young , but first it's clear I am in the minority, and second, I dont behave like a kid, nor dress like one.
The problem with characters like Marie isn't only their figure, you could maybe get away with it with the "people of age looks young" excuse, her problem is the whole combo,, she's not only skinny/slim but also incredibly short, her dressing (with even child-like DLC swimsuits), her moveset being very child like focused (Systema my ass), her behaviour being literally like the one of a 10 years old... when you stack all of it you realize the intention behind her character isn't representing a slim adult.
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People discussing if a fictional character looks too young.
Never laughed so hard at a thread.
How do you define young in manga characters? If it is said they are of age is that enough? And what about people real life that look younger than 18 by being of age?
This conversation will go nowhere
Never laughed so hard at a thread.
How do you define young in manga characters? If it is said they are of age is that enough? And what about people real life that look younger than 18 by being of age?
This conversation will go nowhere
Not really.
this is the Japanese cover:
this is probably a stylistic change so the logo appears big and at the top. there's more room in the switch box than the ps4 box, but everything was shifted downward as a result.
the bigger question is what happened to the gust logo on the us switch box.
All kinds of games release. It doesnt mean they're accepted in our culture and not constantly criticized.
There's clear cases where its clearly BS(like Nowi) but when you're talking about whether a character is 16, 17, 18 or 19 it's obviously arbitrary.
Yes but the discussion is if you censor stuff with underage characters what stops them from creating them anyway and pretend they are 26? After all this happens all the time even in real life, for exemple my girlfriend is older than me and yet she is still asked for documents when buying booze and cigarettes.
It's a matter impossible to regulate with fictional characters. In the end they are simply going to censor everything sexual and call it a day
Because drawings and video game characters are not real life, so labeling them as 26 years old is still bullshit if they are clearly and overtly sexualizing a child-like character.
Ok, but I could make the argument that if I want to depict a character that is 26 but looks 16 I could, particularly if it is for the sake of the story.
Let's say I draw my girlfriend that looks young, am I breaking that rule?
It's hard to label this sort of things. Plus there will be cases where it's subjective. how do you solve that?
I get it, I know you are discussing that pedo hentai rubbish, but if you say yes censorship should be there you risk to censor even things that should not be. It's subjective. I can post a soft henti picture now and debate all night if she is of age or not.
Soft porn games have the right to exist, how would you consistently with no text or context ( not alla games of this genre have it by what I have seen) decide if a piace of work follows that rule or not?
Sure it is a risk, but one that I feel is fine to take. If people honestly think that shit like Cyberpunk is going to be censored because some of the anime games are, are pretty out there. We will just have to wait and see.
And those soft porn games do still exist, they may just not be "content complete" on Sony platforms, but there are other places to play the complete games.
Sony is taking the risk on losing publishers of these games and some of their audience in the process.
I mean we literally had extra censorship in DMCV that had to be patched after a month
Man I've never seen people get so excited about 2 seconds of buttcrack since I was in high school
Exactly. Sony is still allowing these games, just with a bit more steam or light beams, which makes them look hypocritical. If they don't want to support this kind of content they'd just not allow the games altogether. Developers are already starting to migrate to Switch, though. The new Omega Labyrinth game was announced as a Switch exclusive, and Idea Factory has been porting a lot of their library over.
How are we still using this as an example of Sony censoring everything when it was reverted?
I used it as an example of things that can go wrong because in the end of the day there is a person that has to make the call
There is nothing fine about a dev making a game they think should be ok given other games that did not need changes just for it to suddenly not be ok forcing the dev to delay the game and spend additional time and money on now censoring the game.
If Sony wants to do this there need to be clear guidelines and a clear statement so devs know Playstation might not be the right platform for them going forward for some of their games
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*Paul Rust voice* It's New No-Nos!
START THE CLOCK!!
You see these new Sony games? They don't let you see any sexually suggestive content and block it all with beams of light.
Well guess what? From now on I'm going to go around carrying a giant spotlight and aim it at my genitalia
NEW NO-NOS: I'M GONNA SHINE A GIANT LIGHT ON MY JUNK
Sony couldn't have possibly implemented this in a more haphazard manner if they'd tried. We don't know what their rules are, DEVELOPERS don't know what their rules are, and now sony themselves (or at least different people within sony) don't seem sure what their rules are.
You wanna be the new ESRB? Fine, but you can't do it like total amateurs.
You wanna be the new ESRB? Fine, but you can't do it like total amateurs.