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Side-by-side official next gen flagship specs: Xbox Series X and PS5 spec sheets
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This is blast processing all over again. XSX is more powerful, it's as simple as that no matter how much you want to spin it.
Sega found one thing the Genesis had over SNES and marketed that to hell, and it worked.
Does it matter? Both consoles will be fucking amazing. XSX will look better, PS5 will run faster. Enjoy both, I know I will.
I still havent seen any launch games to decide which one I want to get first but I'm leaning with XSX because of Gamepass really. I'll end up with both at some point.
Sega found one thing the Genesis had over SNES and marketed that to hell, and it worked.
Does it matter? Both consoles will be fucking amazing. XSX will look better, PS5 will run faster. Enjoy both, I know I will.
I still havent seen any launch games to decide which one I want to get first but I'm leaning with XSX because of Gamepass really. I'll end up with both at some point.
If you want to believe that marketing go ahead. They don't have some magic silicon to defy physics, it's going downclock when more electrons are being transferred to and from different components at rates it cannot handle. I'm sure everyone would prefer it to say 10+ TF Locked...but it doesn't. They left room for ambiguity to have a prettier looking number
thing is... since MS went wide but with lower clocks... it means better yields
simplified SSD will be cheaper
memory might actually cost less on XSX (edit: wait no they're using more chips so it's a slight premium)
if Sony's cooling is far too exotic, it could get mighty interesting
It's not slow and a monster generational jump compared to Xbox one.
Despite Cerny's stating that he likes the GPU to run at higher frequency, I think that Microsoft's 12TF caught them off guard and they decided at a late stage to try and boost the clock as much as they could to get as close as they could in terms of performance. Clock was their only available dial to turn.
Microsoft did something similar with the Xbox One at a late stage.
Microsoft did something similar with the Xbox One at a late stage.
I agree with your overall point, but bruv that ain't it.
10.3TF in best case scenario. Probably 9.5-10TF in reality.
Nope. It does have a SSD. The XSX will also enjoy what the PS5 has, but to a lesser extent.
The actually important question at this point. All these comparisons are useless if we don't know what the price differential is.
Not my understanding. If that did happen, it was a while ago.
This is my take away from it anyway, I'll get both so I can play all the exclusives.
The Xbox is more powerful so I'll buy all the multiplatform games on there the same as I did on the PS4 this gen (up until the Xbox One X got released).
You've got it twisted. 9.5-10 Tflops would be the worst case scenario (Mark Cerny's words) whilst 10.3 Tflops will be the "typical" performance.
I feel like I watched a different presentation than some of you... Cerny specifically stated the console would run at max frequencies most of the time, only dropping a "couple percent" at most when needed for power envelope (and not thermal) reasons. Acting as if the "real TF" of the console is lower is just weird.
This will not happen, though. I mean, we can construct everything to make whatever advantage each console has shine more but in reality most games will have a variety of specs in mind, especially also because of PC. So unless a game is only getting a release on consoles this is close to 0% Chance. And even on both consoles devs won't make two very different games, it's just not economical.
Seems to be a bit of a role reversal this time round. They seem to take it in turns in being rubbish at marketing their consoles.
Specs are kind of a wash for me. XSX has much better announced features though (gamepass, and BC), but Sony will likely have announcements and further info on this as well. Will stay with Playstation unless there's something big that changes my mind.
Both consoles are going to be impressive. We should probably avoid falling into marketing narrative traps.
The Xbox GPU and CPU are more powerful and most the ram is faster. Let's not pretend like this is insignificant.
The PS5 has a state of the art SSD and is much faster than Xbox. It is not only about a few seconds of load time. It could be a game changer but it remains to be seen how devs will utilize it. Also, Xbox drive is no slouch and will benefit from SSD.
Let's not follow stupid narratives.
The Xbox GPU and CPU are more powerful and most the ram is faster. Let's not pretend like this is insignificant.
The PS5 has a state of the art SSD and is much faster than Xbox. It is not only about a few seconds of load time. It could be a game changer but it remains to be seen how devs will utilize it. Also, Xbox drive is no slouch and will benefit from SSD.
Let's not follow stupid narratives.
Pretty much the same for me. Cant wait for next gen honestly. I am in dire need of a new tv first though so I'm saving up for that atm
We'll see. Assuming a 5% drop in CPU and GPU clocks:
CPU = ~3.3GHZ, GPU = ~9.8TF
If Sony didn't think they could drop below 2% then they would just fix the clocks at 3.4 and 2.18Ghz imo.
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And its a 9.2TF GPU that CAN be boosted. So they're kinda being dishonest with the 10TF
We need an actual developer (Ubisoft, Activision, Capcom, etc) to come here and do a Q&A about what to expect about the advantages and disadvantages of each console. I suspect this is much more than just numbers, so some real clarification would be awesome.
Does anyone from here know someone that could do it?
Does anyone from here know someone that could do it?
PS5's cost alone is estimated to be $450. It's gonna be $500 for sure.
The new Xbox can't be $500 unless MS is going to take a huge hit...i mean if they were going to release at a similar price, they wouldn't need a cheaper unit
Probably:
Lockheart (300/400) < PS5 (500) < Series X (600)
IF PS5 and Series X are the same price then...Sony is fucked and they will have a huge marketing problem to sell this lol.
So then xbox first party can take full advantage of their custom ssd. Currently the commentary about first party usage is only one way. As though series x games would be developed the same as xbox one games.
I forgot that was even a thing. No clue.
I'll say "whoa."
As someone that is likely getting both, this seems like it's going to be completely random what third party games are better on what system
Am I understanding correctly that it is just a matter of if they take advantage of better GPU in Xbox and/or faster memory in PS5?
Am I understanding correctly that it is just a matter of if they take advantage of better GPU in Xbox and/or faster memory in PS5?
The scalibility you refer to as necessary may dovetail neatly/easily into enhanced streaming performance though. If you have your mip-chain for textures, what's to stop you using more higher res mips for onscreen assets if your streaming is up to it? No target-specific asset packaging required in that case, just having a bigger working buffer for what's actually on screen because of the need for a smaller set of data being kept warm in memory vs left on disc because of io bandwidth.
That said, some devs have done target-specific asset tweaking in the past also.
I'd keep an open mind on performance or 'settings' characteristics varying outside of the compute difference on the gpus here. Especially if the outside of the CUs, the gpu config is the same. We will see, dev feedback might be instructive in the shorter term before launch,