I'll end up getting both, but I'll be buying the PS5 first simply because they have shown they have console exclusive titles. MS tends to drop everything on PC which is my preferred platform.
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Side-by-side official next gen flagship specs: Xbox Series X and PS5 spec sheets
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There is most likely a custom flash module sitting in front of the SSD that makes that IO Throughput possible. The question is, will the multiplat devs take use of that hardware and customize their games to utilize it. I like that there's more throughput but it's pointless if it's not used which is why developing apps on raw power is preferred. That or Sony needs to make it extremely streamlined to make use of that chipset.
Those RAM bandwidth numbers for PS5 are really concerning. Even a desktop 5700XT has 448GB/s by itself. How are they supposed to balance that with the CPU as well?
I just dont think ps5 can do rt well. That scales with CUs.
Faster ssd tech is cool but it will be very difficult to show that difference, specially in early games eveything should just run straight up better on xbox. It is not like theirs is poor. Right now I think MS made better decisions specially with their fixed clock approach. In practice ps5 likely rarely reaches maximum clock, that is an absurd frequency to sustain.
Faster ssd tech is cool but it will be very difficult to show that difference, specially in early games eveything should just run straight up better on xbox. It is not like theirs is poor. Right now I think MS made better decisions specially with their fixed clock approach. In practice ps5 likely rarely reaches maximum clock, that is an absurd frequency to sustain.
I like the specs of both machines, but XSX will be the superior machine in most cases. The super fast SDD on the PS5 could lead to some interesting games that might be harder on the XSX.
I guess I might have to get both, but I am starting with XSX definitely.
I guess I might have to get both, but I am starting with XSX definitely.
i would assume yes and it's active at all times
if not then they getting slapped
but i still assume yes
cant see the faster ssd make that much of a difference in the ps5. For multiplat the baseline is going to be the slower kit, so in actual gameplay terms, they will likely be identical. I can see the ps5 having slightly faster loading, though.
I think the extra raw gpu power in the xbox is going to be a much more obvious difference.
I think the extra raw gpu power in the xbox is going to be a much more obvious difference.
It means that the numbers on the chart are theoretical/peak performance. It won't always be hitting those frequencies, where as the Series X numbers are locked.
My issue from the coming months is that I know people who have never even used an SSD before are going to come out of the woodwork and say that it is revolutionary and it alone makes it stronger than the Series X.
Look folks, SSD's are awesome, and I'm really excited to see how games play once the SSD is standard, but it doesn't automatically make the GPU/CPU stronger. And your games won't automatically be 8K/120FPS because of it.
Yeah it's going to be interesting on actual multiplat games to see the difference.
If the PS5 keeps that peak performance, it's going to be louder and hotter than the PS4 Pro. Which is why I don't think comparing them on paper is easy.
Look folks, SSD's are awesome, and I'm really excited to see how games play once the SSD is standard, but it doesn't automatically make the GPU/CPU stronger. And your games won't automatically be 8K/120FPS because of it.
Yeah it's going to be interesting on actual multiplat games to see the difference.
If the PS5 keeps that peak performance, it's going to be louder and hotter than the PS4 Pro. Which is why I don't think comparing them on paper is easy.
Xbox stays my main console, that being said im sure PS5 will be great.
Wonder if they will end it showing/teasing what the box looks like
Wonder if they will end it showing/teasing what the box looks like
Raw power rarely matters in the early years of a console. Sony will get more mileage in the beginning as the SSD throughput will show immediate results.
Nope not at all. Diff on gpu is 14% but with higher clocks on ps5 it will be around 10% on reality.
Cpu side is negligent diff.
Memory kind same
Ssd much faster on ps5
Xbox has never planned to move to a streaming model. They are offering a streaming service, on top of their console service.
Maybe multi-platform titles on PS5 will load 2 seconds faster.
MS has all the cards in hands.. Mucho gracias to them for truly delivering a monster of a console !
it looks like they are using chiplets so lot of room in the io die
im pretty sure the ps5 specs include the peak frequency/tflops already.
it can only be slower than that depending on the load.
It's an interesting difference between the two. I expected them to be a little bit more comparable. PS5 has a much faster SSD, while the XSX has higher FLOP count and I think it might edge out the bandwidth comparison. In terms of expandable storage, PS5 allows a curated list of off-the-shelf (in the future) NMVe SSDs, while XSX has proprietary expansion cards. It's interesting that they are quite different.
I don't think the FLOPS difference is too bad. It's 15.4% less, compared to XB1's 29% flop deficit, so the gap this gen will be smaller (and XB1 vs. PS4 wasn't too interesting, either). A more interesting question is the SSD: PS5's IO throughput is more than twice as large as that of the XSX. That said, the XSX's IO throughput is really high as well (as Cerny mentioned, PS5 is at least 100x, so XSX is 50x or more), so I don't know if that deficit is going to impact the games.
Very interesting information for sure!
I don't think the FLOPS difference is too bad. It's 15.4% less, compared to XB1's 29% flop deficit, so the gap this gen will be smaller (and XB1 vs. PS4 wasn't too interesting, either). A more interesting question is the SSD: PS5's IO throughput is more than twice as large as that of the XSX. That said, the XSX's IO throughput is really high as well (as Cerny mentioned, PS5 is at least 100x, so XSX is 50x or more), so I don't know if that deficit is going to impact the games.
Very interesting information for sure!
Sorry, this is what I meant. Not entirely streaming. This gen will offer a hybrid model. Should've been more specific.
Blades will be different. They aren't going to pop in literal XSX into a server rack lol.
Honestly it's kinda neat - even if obviously a bit annoying for devs - to see the consoles be a bit more disparate from each other. It may mean certain games being genuinely optimised better on a platform by platform basis, depending on their size and particular demands.
That SSD in the PS5 is going to be extremely pricey, at least initially. Sony might take the hit though.
All specs are lower except for SSD which in the grand scheme of things honestly isn't as relevant as the rest. GPU difference is pretty big imo.
Also, no talk about VRS??? In PC games there are gains of more than 20% in term of FPS, so that 12Tflops with VRS will give even better results than the 10.2Tflops at boost clock speed...
DF said they are and that they can be used to virtualise 4x XB1s.
CPU is a variable clock too. You're not going to have CPU and GPU at max clock. There is definitely a significant difference in CPU and GPU power. Sony wants developers to adopt a new paradigm that makes better use of IO.
no way am i paying more than $399 for ps5 lmao
series x looks like a great machine, but i have no need for it
series x looks like a great machine, but i have no need for it
lol
VRS is part of RDNA2. It's there as a standard feature-set, not necessary to use.
Watch cernys stream. He explains why the console is so fast and why he thinks teraflop comparison doesn't matter. He basically gave the argument that ps5 cu's and teraflops matter more.
I'm not smart in tech aspects at all. But since the Xbox has that hard drive slot in the back, couldn't MS just make a new better hard drive down the line people could buy? Like hypothetically it could match the ps5 one. Or does the console need to be changed for that to work?
I'm sure DF is reliable. But if you have ever been inside a colocation and/or data center; popping in a XSX in a server rack would be stupid. Sorry, while the blades will be based off the XSX chipset, it most likely won't be the exact same.