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Should you be able to use an accessible toilet if you don’t have a disability?

  • Yes, anytime

    Votes: 328 47.3%
  • Yes but only in emergencies

    Votes: 346 49.9%
  • No, never

    Votes: 19 2.7%

  • Total voters
    693

sph3re

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 28, 2017
8,403
I'm super guilty of using it, but I won't deny that it's not something I should be making a habit of doing.

But I don't take shits in public restrooms often, so it's a non-issue for me.

In the event that someone with a disability needs it, I'd pinch that loaf ASAP and get the hell outta dodge.
 

Clowns

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,873
I'll use them if it's all that's available. Or if the other stalls are really gross. Can't say I've ever ran into it being a problem?
 
Oct 25, 2017
989
The void
My mom works at this fast food restaurant type place in Arizona. She has two jobs and was using the stall to change before work quickly. Someone started rapping on the door to the stall frantically and when my mom hurriedly finished putting on her clothes and opened it, a woman was standing outside the door and had... relieved herself. She said ever since then, she doesn't use that stall.
 

Figgles

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
2,568
Yes. Sometimes there are no other options. Sometimes everything else is full... sometimes there is only 1 toilet.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,789
Sure. Accessibility is not a monopoly, it's flexibility. It's like asking if you should use ramps or door button if you don't have a disability. Of course you can. Maybe you're pushing a cart or holding something or maybe the other entrance is blocked. Whatever. If you get to the stall and nobody is lined up, then you are free to take it. If someone who could otherwise not use the other stalls would like to use it, then you would yield to them. The point is that they can reasonably use the bathroom, not necessarily that they don't have to wait in line if the resource was already in use before their intention was known. Just don't sit in there playing with your phone.

It would be the same thing for using the family bathroom.

The reason parking is reserved is that people can park for several hours and it would not be appropriate to force people to wait that long.
 

Deleted member 8005

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
126
Jesus, today I learned that ectera thinks that disabled toilets are there just for a fucking giggle.

The people who just use them whenever you make me sick.
 

klastical

Member
Oct 29, 2017
4,712
Use them whenever you need to. The designation of a handicap accessible stall doesnt mean that only the handicap can use it but instead that its specifically designed to make using the restroom easier to those who do have a handicap. If I gotta shit though and it's the only open stall you bet your ass I'm going in there.
 

Ramala

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,048
Santa Monica, LA
Jesus, today I learned that ectera thinks that disabled toilets are there just for a fucking giggle.

The people who just use them whenever you make me sick.

Handicapped toilets are for handicapped people first and foremost. I would not compare them to handicapped parking spots, simply for the fact that there are millions of public bathrooms that have a single toilet that is also handicapped equipped.
 

Davidion

Charitable King
Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,086
Avoid it wherever possible. If it's an absolute, unavoidable emergency, make sure no one disabled is about to use it.This isn't the same as parking unless you're taking time away from usage by those with disabilities, or if you're somehow doing so much damage that you damage the damn stall. And on that subject, obviously be clean about it.

I apply this to single bathrooms of opposite sex too.

TBH I honestly can't remember ever having to do either of the above. It's just general balance of being both considerate and pragmatic.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,238
I always feel shitty (heh) when I do it, but I only do it if there's no other option, I REALLY need to go, and I try to do it as fast as possible.
 

Luminish

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,508
Denver
Jesus, today I learned that ectera thinks that disabled toilets are there just for a fucking giggle.

The people who just use them whenever you make me sick.
What's the argument for disabled people needing to having instant access at all times? Obviously if you don't yield to a disabled person in line you're a jerk, but I don't see what the worst case is for using it not knowing a disabled person needs it and they have to wait at most a few minutes.

Like in the single toilet examples brought up, those don't stop being handicap accessable just because non-handicapped people use it too.
 

MrKlaw

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,061
Good to see "liberal" resetera maintaining its stunning record of ableist posts. Time to put EtcetEra on ignore again. Disabled facilities aren't for people without a disability. You don't need them. You didn't have to fight for them or suffer without their absence.

And by the way "handicapped" hasn't been an acceptable synonym of disabled since the Americans with Disabilities Act was signed into law in fucking 1990.

DON'T USE THAT WORD. Are you still walking around talking about "colored people"?

Don't bother replying, I won't be seeing it anytime soon.

Are they 'toilets only for disabled people', or 'toilets designed to enable disabled people requiring increased accessibility to use them'?

Eg - if you have IBS - an example given in this thread. You can use any stall. Should you actually use the accessible one which may block a wheelchair user who specifically requires the space and equipment inside that stall?
 

Luminish

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,508
Denver
Good to see "liberal" resetera maintaining its stunning record of ableist posts. Time to put EtcetEra on ignore again. Disabled facilities aren't for people without a disability. You don't need them. You didn't have to fight for them or suffer without their absence.

And by the way "handicapped" hasn't been an acceptable synonym of disabled since the Americans with Disabilities Act was signed into law in fucking 1990.

DON'T USE THAT WORD. Are you still walking around talking about "colored people"?

Don't bother replying, I won't be seeing it anytime soon.
What's the better word than? I don't like "differently abled" because it implies that people must have to be good at some other ability to offset the disability, and I haven't heard any other alternatives.
 

SapientWolf

Member
Nov 6, 2017
6,565
Are they 'toilets only for disabled people', or 'toilets designed to enable disabled people requiring increased accessibility to use them'?

Eg - if you have IBS - an example given in this thread. You can use any stall. Should you actually use the accessible one which may block a wheelchair user who specifically requires the space and equipment inside that stall?
In the OP's case, the other stalls were occupied so it came down to using the accessible stall or violently shitting himself.

OP, you made the right call in your situation and no decent human being will judge you for it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,979
This happened to me a little bit back.

Except I didn't have access to the bathroom with disabled stalls because it was locked.

So I found the nearest patch of secluded grass and unloaded my guts all over the place and wiped myself clean with leafs and grass.

Itchy asshole but it was 2am in the morning and I don't think anybody saw.
 

Acorn

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,972
Scotland
I need a choice between emergencies and never. Also some places like my doctors all the toilets are able to be used by disabled people so you don't have a choice.
 

nullref

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,055
They are an accommodation, not a reservation like handicapped parking. go ahead.

This is a nice, succinct way of putting what I think is the intention. I think it's polite to choose the other stalls if you don't need the accessibility features, if any are available, but I also don't think there's anything wrong with using an accessible stall if that's all that's available. (There are small public bathrooms with only a single stall, which has to be accessible by law, but which also obviously has to be used by everyone, which I think makes the intention clear.)
 

Volimar

volunteer forum janitor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,515
I need a choice between emergencies and never. Also some places like my doctors all the toilets are able to be used by disabled people so you don't have a choice.


You don't even have to choose. If it's the only stall available, use it. It doesn't have to be an emergency. Once again, those stalls are handicap (though we really prefer you don't use that term it's the the colloquialism that everyone knows it by) accessible. Not handicap only.
 

Dalek

Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,962
How is this not posted yet


Classic

For what it's worth, OP I have IBS and when I'm in that emergency mindset that comes on with no advance warning-I'm going to use whatever I can. Most public bathrooms are awful and there's usually one stall broken, one occupied and one disabled stall. If it's a choice between shutting my pants in public or using the disabled stall, I'm using the disabled stall.
 

Acorn

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,972
Scotland
You don't even have to choose. If it's the only stall available, use it. It doesn't have to be an emergency. Once again, those stalls are handicap (though we really prefer you don't use that term it's the the colloquialism that everyone knows it by) accessible. Not handicap only.
That's how it would be in a civilised world, they shouldn't be wondrous temples like Karnak that people fear to enter.
Yeah, what I meant by a choice between emergencies and never is I'll generally use it whenever but if there is someone waiting behind me for the only toilet they can use I'll offer for them to go first.

Also agreed, just makes sense to have every toilet accessible to enough to meet everyone's needs. At the very least in public buildings it should be the case.
 

Deleted member 8005

User requested account closure
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Oct 26, 2017
126
What's the argument for disabled people needing to having instant access at all times? Obviously if you don't yield to a disabled person in line you're a jerk, but I don't see what the worst case is for using it not knowing a disabled person needs it and they have to wait at most a few minutes.

Like in the single toilet examples brought up, those don't stop being handicap accessable just because non-handicapped people use it too.

So my wife has a stoma and she has a stupidly urgent need to use a disabled toilet. In the UK we have RADAR keys which you apply for so people like those in this thread don't cause her to have a "accident"

I myself am also disabled (knee, use a cane) and if I saw someone coming out who was quite obviously not disabled and just there as it was there, there would be hell to pay.
 
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