Should Sony put a ring on Bluepoint Games?

F4r0_Atak · Sep 20, 2020

Begaria said:
They do seem to have a close relationship, but if they do, I would like to see Bluepoint try their hand at their own original IPs rather than remaking and remastering games. The work they do is fantastic, and the old adage is to stick to what you're good at, but it'd be nice to see them branch out.

They want to... one day. Make an original IP of their own.

SecondNature said:
How did bluepoint become so big anyway

i don't remember them before like the uncharted game

They release remasters of God of War 1+2, Ico+SotC and MGS 2+3+Peace Walker in the spawn of 2 years. 7 games across 3 different collections with 2 different publishers. They are technically efficient and technical wizards.

Deleted member 12352 · Sep 20, 2020

Probably.

EVIL · Sep 20, 2020

Automagical said:
Sorry what was the amazing original IP that led them to buy insomniac?

are you joking?
Sony bought insomniac for Ratchet and Clank and Spiderman after they gave a game to Microsoft, and the result is there as it being one of the prominent IP's shown around the PS5.

Insomniac has a track record of making solid games based on their own created IP's all the way back from the PS1 era and them being willing to shop around and having no qualms to go with Microsoft is one of the reasons Sony was looking to acquire insomniac

Bluepoint for all their worth have yet to develop an IP of their own future proofing their studio. They need an IP they developed from scratch that adds more value to their company, and heck maybe even doing a few remakes for Microsoft

Its the same with jobs, only when people notice you are looking around at other companies are they usually able to see your value and are willing to meet your demands.

Vega · Sep 20, 2020

Bluepoint its currently on a very safe position. They dont need to take risks developing a new IP, which is costly and can easily bomb. However, It will be a great addition to the PS Studios family.

sacrament · Sep 20, 2020

Bluepoint doesn't have any assets, IP, or intrinsic value beyond people and good industry relationships. Probably not in their interest either since they can create remakes or remasters for any company that seems them out. Much better prospect on the revenue front than being tied up with Sony

gogojira · Sep 20, 2020

Y'all use popping the question like it's a cute personal relationship and not a business transaction and it's real strange. There are a billion different variables that would need to come together and it obviously needs to make sense for Bluepoint, too.

They are a great team but I'd imagine Bluepoint needs to do more than remasters. I'm not taking anything away from the fantastic work they do, but as a team their biggest successes are working with established frameworks.

Nostradamus · Sep 20, 2020

Begaria said:
They do seem to have a close relationship, but if they do, I would like to see Bluepoint try their hand at their own original IPs rather than remaking and remastering games. The work they do is fantastic, and the old adage is to stick to what you're good at, but it'd be nice to see them branch out.

Well this would require a huge expansion. What would make sense is for them to try their luck on a smaller title first and then expanding but this might impose a huge risk being independent.

JaseMath · Sep 20, 2020

Yes, and give them the opportunity to develop their own IP.

Goro Majima · Sep 20, 2020

Definitely, I have been saying that for years, Bluepoint is amazing.

Kupo Kupopo · Sep 20, 2020

gogojira said:
Y'all use popping the question like it's a cute personal relationship and not a business transaction and it's real strange. There are a billion different variables that would need to come together and it's obviously need to make sense for Bluepoint, too.

They are a great team but I'd imagine Bluepoint needs to do more than remasters. I'm not taking anything away from the fantastic work they do, but as a team their biggest successes are working with established frameworks.

thank you...

jiggle · Sep 20, 2020

They don't have anything significant left to remake do they?

May be a good studio to buy to do expanded marvel game universe

EVIL · Sep 20, 2020

gogojira said:
Y'all use popping the question like it's a cute personal relationship and not a business transaction and it's real strange. There are a billion different variables that would need to come together and it's obviously need to make sense for Bluepoint, too.

They are a great team but I'd imagine Bluepoint needs to do more than remasters. I'm not taking anything away from the fantastic work they do, but as a team their biggest successes are working with established frameworks.

This.

Ivanovic · Sep 20, 2020

EvilBoris said:
I'm not sure if it would be worth it
1: they have no IP of real value so their value is entirely in the people who do the great work.

2. people can leave, especially such a small team

Insomniac says differently.

ascii42 · Sep 20, 2020

MercuryLS said:
I think it's Titanfall for Xbox 360.

I forgot that was them. They did a great job with it.

Wein Cruz · Sep 20, 2020

Hopefully bluepoint wants to stay independent and since I don't own Sony stock I have no reason to want them to be exclusive.

Angie · Sep 20, 2020

They will be crazy not to.

MinerArcaniner · Sep 20, 2020

Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't already.

Spehornoob · Sep 20, 2020

I think if Demon's Souls does well, it's likely. Especially with Demon's Souls being a marquee title for the PS5. I can't imagine these full graphical remakes are cheap to make, and keeping that first party budget would probably be nice.

I'm more curious if they're going to keep doing remakes or if they're going to work on new IPs next. I know they've expressed interest in doing original stuff, but they're so damn good at the Remakes too. It seems like remakes are their bread and butter.

Kyoufu · Sep 20, 2020

They should, and if they're really smart they'll license IPs from 3rd party publishers for Bluepoint to remake, should they desire to continue with remakes. If not then they could be set up to create their own IPs, I suppose.

El Crono · Sep 20, 2020

Until a few days ago I honestly thought Bluepoint was already a part of PlayStation Studios. Honestly it just makes sense.

Andromeda · Sep 20, 2020

Dizastah said:
I don't know what Sony is waiting on.

Probably a yes from those companies?

Mobius 1 · Sep 20, 2020

If they're going to let them develop their own new IP. Sure.

Deleted member 9584 · Sep 20, 2020

Sony has been around long enough that they could use a studio that does nothing but remake old games for them. They have tons of untouched IP for the PS5 generation, and then for PS6 it would be prime time to start remaking games like PS3 generation games like Uncharted 1, Infamous, Socom, etc.

I think Bluepoint has value even if only for remaking games.

F4r0_Atak · Sep 20, 2020

EVIL said:
are you joking?
Sony bought insomniac for Ratchet and Clank and Spiderman after they gave a game to Microsoft, and the result is there as it being one of the prominent IP's shown around the PS5.

Insomniac has a track record of making solid games based on their own created IP's all the way back from the PS1 era and them being willing to shop around and having no qualms to go with Microsoft is one of the reasons Sony was looking to acquire insomniac

Bluepoint for all their worth have yet to develop an IP of their own future proofing their studio. They need an IP they developed from scratch that adds more value to their company, and heck maybe even doing a few remakes for Microsoft

Its the same with jobs, only when people notice you are looking around at other companies are they usually able to see your value and are willing to meet your demands.

Technically, SIE already owned Ratchet but they don't own Spider-Man, neither does Insomniac.

EvilBoris said:
I'm not sure if it would be worth it
1: they have no IP of real value so their value is entirely in the people who do the great work.

2. people can leave, especially such a small team

SIE already said before they are not just looking at IPs when thinking about acquisitions. The team/studio's values is first and foremost.

BrickArts295 · Sep 20, 2020

gzell60 said:
Depends on if they are able to create their own IPs too. So far I only know them for their remasters.

I don't think they have to make their own IPs if they can continue being the best remaster/remake developers. That's pretty much their MO so far. There are a LOT of great games people would rather play again with new coat of paint over a potential New IP that may or may not succeed.

F4r0_Atak · Sep 20, 2020

gigantor21 said:
Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't already.

It took SIE almost 20 years for Insomniac Games. 10 years for Sucker Punch. They (SIE) are playing the long game. 😂😂😂

Damn Silly · Sep 20, 2020

Nah. Sony's own back catalogue of IP doesn't have a lot that is really "worth" remaking so I'd rather they and whatever they make are available wherever possible

Mona · Sep 20, 2020

if they like it

EvilBoris · Sep 20, 2020

F4r0_Atak said:
Technically, SIE already owned Ratchet but they don't own Spider-Man, neither does Insomniac.

SIE already said before they are not just looking at IPs when thinking about acquisitions. The team/studio's values is first and foremost.

It makes it difficult to place a value on something that is somewhat transient

MrNelson · Sep 20, 2020

I don't understand what purpose acquiring Bluepoint would serve.

Like, why are so many of y'all excited to shut out other platform owners from potential future projects of theirs?

Ostinatto · Sep 20, 2020

What would be the benefit for us users if Sony buys Bluepoint?

Aeson · Sep 20, 2020

Mobius 1 said:
If they're going to let them develop their own new IP. Sure.

I would be very wary of any new IP coming from these guys. They are technical masters but actually designing a game from the ground up is a whole other beast.

Supernova · Sep 20, 2020

Yes, imo Playstation has a treasure trove of IP, and if they add Bluepoint to the family they would finally have a dedicated first party studio to be able to develop remakes and monetize their dormant IP for the next gen of gaming with PS5. It's a natural addition to the fold and from a business standpoint would make sense so that the other first party devs could continue to explore making new IP and experiences while Bluepoint focuses on introducing a new generation of gamers to some of Sony's classic IP's.

Anth0ny · Sep 20, 2020

100%

They're awesome

Batatina · Sep 20, 2020

I'm sure there's talks. They are probably waiting to see how Demons Souls turns out in the end.

poklane · Sep 20, 2020

If they can for the right price they'd be crazy not to.

Wein Cruz · Sep 20, 2020

Ostinatto said:
What would be the benefit for us users if Sony buys Bluepoint?

Another feather in the fanboy cap.

IIFloodyII · Sep 20, 2020

Automagical said:
That was not their original IP, the post i replied to originally said Sony only liked to buy studios that had their own valuable original IP

Not really sure what they'd base that on. Almost all the studios they've bought Sony already owned the valuable I.P, can only think of Psygnosis/Studio Liverpool who'd be the exception. Insomniac make a lot of valuable I.P for Sony, that's worth a lot too.

Kyoufu · Sep 20, 2020

Ostinatto said:
What would be the benefit for us users if Sony buys Bluepoint?

Bluepoint would be given a stronger focus rather than possibly having to work on port jobs (TitanFall XB360 for example).

Plinkerton · Sep 20, 2020

They should, but I kinda hope they don't. If Bluepoint is going to remain a remaster/remake studio, there's only so many Sony IPs that are worth revisiting in that way.

I'd rather Bluepoint have the freedom to work with any publisher to remake whatever they want.

Tigerfan2019 · Sep 20, 2020

EVIL said:
are you joking?
Sony bought insomniac for Ratchet and Clank and Spiderman after they gave a game to Microsoft, and the result is there as it being one of the prominent IP's shown around the PS5.

Insomniac has a track record of making solid games based on their own created IP's all the way back from the PS1 era and them being willing to shop around and having no qualms to go with Microsoft is one of the reasons Sony was looking to acquire insomniac

Bluepoint for all their worth have yet to develop an IP of their own future proofing their studio. They need an IP they developed from scratch that adds more value to their company, and heck maybe even doing a few remakes for Microsoft

Its the same with jobs, only when people notice you are looking around at other companies are they usually able to see your value and are willing to meet your demands.

Sony was trying to buy Insomniac for years but Ted wanted to stay independent.

poklane · Sep 20, 2020

Ostinatto said:
What would be the benefit for us users if Sony buys Bluepoint?

Since Sony would no longer have to fear of Bluepoint signing with another publisher it would make Sony investing a lot in them to expand a lot safer. Maybe they'd finally work on an original game.

Ewaan · Sep 20, 2020

I'd like for Sony to acquire Blue Point, Housemarque and Ember Labs early next gen.

That1GoodHunter · Sep 20, 2020

Get Bluepoint, Housemarque, mayyybe Arc-System Works, then close up the checkbook for a loooong time.

nextJin · Sep 20, 2020

I think they should and they should be a strict remaster studio. For PS5 focus on some of the best games from PS1-PS3 and release every other year. Or even bump their employees and make it every 18 months.

Combichristoffersen · Sep 20, 2020

They're pretty much Sony exclusive anyway, so sure, Sony should buy them and have them remake old Sony games and do new IP.

Teddie28 · Sep 20, 2020

It's possible Sony tried and Bluepoint just aren't interested.

SecondNature · Sep 20, 2020

That1GoodHunter said:
Get Bluepoint, Housemarque, mayyybe Arc-System Works, then close up the checkbook for a loooong time.

Housemarque would be so good with a bigger budget. Returnal looks really promising and actually unique. Breaks the "TPS Cinematic" mould of PS games and ventures into scifi, arcadey gameplay. I hope Returnal is successful

F4r0_Atak · Sep 20, 2020

MrNelson said:
I don't understand what purpose acquiring Bluepoint would serve.

Like, why are so many of y'all excited to shut out other platform owners from potential future projects of theirs?

If they wanted to collab with Bluepoint, it would have been done already (at least once).

Ostinatto said:
What would be the benefit for us users if Sony buys Bluepoint?

Guaranteeing Bluepoint's future? There are more risks being independent in this day and age than being acquired. Only a few AAA studios managed to be commercially successful while being independent.

EVIL · Sep 20, 2020

F4r0_Atak said:
Technically, SIE already owned Ratchet but they don't own Spider-Man, neither does Insomniac.

SIE already said before they are not just looking at IPs when thinking about acquisitions. The team/studio's values is first and foremost.

sure but you need both. nobody buys teams. The business value simply isn't there when talking about Bluepoint.
MS didnt buy mojang @2.5bn for their team, they bought it for Minecraft.

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