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Should remasters die next gen?
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As I suppose ( / hope) current gen games will all be playable on next gen consoles, I think a HD texture pack or something like this to be paid for (I don't know, for 5-10 bucks) could be a suitable way.
I can certainly agree with current gen games not really needing a remaster and previous generation titles still getting them. But, maybe, some games from this generation could benefit from a hard remaster, where they don't remake it but mainly fix some of the issues the game originally had as well as bump up the quality of the textures and resolution and what-have-you
I'm with you OP. Xbox has spoiled us a bit in this regard with Enhanced titles.. and even going futher than that, Final Fantasy XIII shows us even another way forward with developers possibly even updating textures/fmv with higher quality assets along with the enhanced features, which I'm sure most people would be willing to even pay for such a patch.
I think remasters for new games should die. GoW 2018 doesn't need a remaster on PS5 (and it luckily doesn't have to have one). For older games remasters are fine though. Though I personally would it if all games were to be made available to play in their original state through backwards compatibility + remakes of some games because I find that personally to be more interesting.
And this is what will happen.
Raytracing / path tracing smeared all over current gen games will do. (Don't think so, really curious to see to what extent RT can be implemented next gen,
but I doubt it's substantial).
Current gen games are not getting a remaster, I expect enhanced BC to take care of most cases and patches in a few instances, obviously games could still get a reissue as "complete edition" or something.
Games from generations before the current one will keep being remastered/remade as they should
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Not really die. I think it needs to evolve. They can update games to take better advantage of next generation.
There are already games that can already scale to next gen but the touch ups won't hurt.
Whether they sell these upgrades or not for existing owners is the huge question mark.
There are already games that can already scale to next gen but the touch ups won't hurt.
Whether they sell these upgrades or not for existing owners is the huge question mark.
Personally, i dont see the need for remasters to die. They can give older games extra exposure, and it also gives work to smaller studios, since those are usually the ones who handle these releases, from what i know. And with backward compability, it will be easy to just play the original version. There will likely be cross play between the platforms as well (if not across all platforms, at least between e.g PS4 and PS5). It would be nice to see free updates that improves the visuals of course, but i dont expect this to be the norm.
That said, i'm a bit indifferent though. I cant recall the last remaster i bought because i wanted to play the game again. I was somewhat tempted to buy the Dark Souls and God of War 3 remake, but i never did (GoW3 was "free" with PS+ as well, so i added it to my library, but i doubt i will take the time to play it. I already beat it on PS3 and loved the game). So even if we dont get any remasters next gen (including free updates), i wont care much about that.
That said, i'm a bit indifferent though. I cant recall the last remaster i bought because i wanted to play the game again. I was somewhat tempted to buy the Dark Souls and God of War 3 remake, but i never did (GoW3 was "free" with PS+ as well, so i added it to my library, but i doubt i will take the time to play it. I already beat it on PS3 and loved the game). So even if we dont get any remasters next gen (including free updates), i wont care much about that.
Keep in mind that these remasters arent just made for people to double dip. They're also made for new players who didnt buy the game in the first place. Why would it be greedy to offer the game for sale again? And with backward compability, you really dont need to buy the remaster to be able to play the game :) Its nice with better visuals of course, i agree to that, but that leaves you with a choice to buy it or not. We're not entitled to get these free updates, and the remastering does require extra work as well, so i wont call this as being greedy.
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Why not? Even if next gen is backwards compatible remasters can still fix things and put all the patches on a disc for people who prefer a definitive physical release.
Kinda. Remasters like Halo 2 in the MCC are great. But Remasters that are just the PC version at max settings but on console or something are dumb. But super easy money so they'll never stop. Good backwards compatability should be the "remaster", instead of selling the same game again
Remakes are great though
Remakes are great though
No remaster with better resolution or fps. That should be done automatically via back compa.
Real remakes like RE2 I'm all in.
Real remakes like RE2 I'm all in.
I don't have an issue if it's more than just a resolution bump. I think a lot of people often don't understand how much effort can be involved in what appears to be a relatively simple remaster.
It'd be great going forward if games automatically upscaled on the new systems but I don't think anything beyond that i.e. higher resolution assets etc should be expected to be free, great as that would be.
It'd be great going forward if games automatically upscaled on the new systems but I don't think anything beyond that i.e. higher resolution assets etc should be expected to be free, great as that would be.
YES
Microsoft proved with 360 and og Xbox backwards compatibility that there is no need to remaster games when you can have those improvements built into the emulator itself. most of the X enhanced games perform and look better than most dedicated remasters.
Remakes on the other hand will always have a place as they usually do more for gameplay and QOL
Microsoft proved with 360 and og Xbox backwards compatibility that there is no need to remaster games when you can have those improvements built into the emulator itself. most of the X enhanced games perform and look better than most dedicated remasters.
Remakes on the other hand will always have a place as they usually do more for gameplay and QOL
I hope this will be a thing. It really shouldn't be a problem to run The Witcher 3 or Ni No Kuni 2 in VR on the PS5. No first person nonsense, just the game in VR.
I like remasters. I don't always revisit them if they're a game I've already played, though. But when it's a game I haven't actually played before, and I'm pitched an opportunity to play it in a "better than ever" form, it's definitely encouraging to jump in. I think that's the real function of the remaster. It reinstalls the game or franchise in to public consciousness. It gives you an opportunity to market it again and for players to be aware of it. It motivates people to give it a chance, which even if they always could, they might be more motivated to do with a celebrated re-release.
I can definitely understand if remasters get tiresome to people who've played a lot of games. I'm sure if you're somebody who plays whole series and all the flagships every generation the idea of playing those same games again next generation isn't very interesting. But I know I definitely like good remasters. I've played a lot of great games this way.
I can definitely understand if remasters get tiresome to people who've played a lot of games. I'm sure if you're somebody who plays whole series and all the flagships every generation the idea of playing those same games again next generation isn't very interesting. But I know I definitely like good remasters. I've played a lot of great games this way.
So surprised that so many of you said No right away without second thought. The issue with the video game industry is lack of creativity so your preferred solution to this is to re-hash games from 10 years ago but with updated graphics?
Shit if you want to do that, just get a PC and download mods.
Shit if you want to do that, just get a PC and download mods.
I'd rather they didn't and that time was spent on making new experiences, especially with backwards compatibility being a thing once again. But they sell. Often very well. So I don't see them stopping.
I can't wait for the Ni No Kuni remaster, because I missed it the first time around, but had the PS4 been backwards compatible, or they released it on the UK PSNow, I would have played it years ago and wouldn't be bothered about this re-release.
I can't wait for the Ni No Kuni remaster, because I missed it the first time around, but had the PS4 been backwards compatible, or they released it on the UK PSNow, I would have played it years ago and wouldn't be bothered about this re-release.
100% see devs and publishers charging $9.99 or more to upgrade to the remasters next gen version.
Yeah stuff before the PS4/XO era should still be remastered if it hasn't already
but backwards compatibility + regular updates should mean there's no need for a current gen games to get the same treatment next gen. Release 'em on a new disc with the new console's logo, sure, but don't make people rebuy the game they already bought.
I'd be fine with a one-time small fee if the update is significant enough, though.
but backwards compatibility + regular updates should mean there's no need for a current gen games to get the same treatment next gen. Release 'em on a new disc with the new console's logo, sure, but don't make people rebuy the game they already bought.
I'd be fine with a one-time small fee if the update is significant enough, though.
I'd happily pay for another version of something like RDR2 on new hardware assuming the visual and performance upgrades were significant.
No, but I do hope they focus on games that aren't available through BC at all. So Sony shouldn't focus on PS4 games for example.