Now there are two of them?
one out of hand is worth two out of bush
Metroidvania is fine as a term, and I continue to be perplexed at the passionate backlash it provokes.this is a superb illustration of why Metroidvania is such an exceedingly stupid term
I guess they are Metroidvanias in that Metroidvania is the genre name (so the collective).
Metroidvania is fine as a term, and I continue to be perplexed at the passionate backlash it provokes.
They areMetroidvania's definition is a 2D action platformer with exploration and ability-locked areas, so every 2D Metroid game would absolutely qualify as one — I'm not sure how you could argue otherwise.
Everyone voting "no" isn't confusing etymology with definition, are they?
Metroid invented the genre, why does it have to share credit with Castlevania?
this is a superb illustration of why Metroidvania is such an exceedingly stupid term
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Metroidvania's definition is a 2D action platformer with exploration and ability-locked areas, so every 2D Metroid game would absolutely qualify as one — I'm not sure how you could argue otherwise.
Everyone voting "no" isn't confusing etymology with definition, are they?
Similarly, are Castlevania games Metroidvanias, or are they just Castlevania games?
"Metroidvania" originally meant a Castlevania game in the style of Metroid, like Symphony of the Night. It only became applied to other games later.Metroid invented the genre, why does it have to share credit with Castlevania?
This is fine. Soulsborne and Soulsbornekiro (even though I'm pretty sure the latter is just shitposting) sound dumb compared to Soulslike.They should be called metroid-likes. Me and my friends figured this out years before sotn when we were 12.
I think it's just become an all-encompassing term for the genre now, whereas before I think it was used to separate Metroid like games, to ones that also include RPG elements, ala Symphony.
I despise the terms Metroidvania and SoulsBorne. I agree the Metroid invented the genre - the same as Demon Souls.I despise the term "Metroidvania."
Metroid invented the genre, why does it have to share credit with Castlevania?
Eww people combine Castlevania and Metroid now? How are they alike? Yeah, they're both RPGs, well then if that's the only comparison, is it ok for anyone to combine Undertale and Final Fantasy? Didn't think so!I think it's just become an all-encompassing term for the genre now, whereas before I think it was used to separate Metroid like games, to ones that also include RPG elements, ala Symphony.
I'd say it's just a Metroid game in this case.
Nintendo, however, calls 'em Metroidvania's.
Metroid, and some of the Castlevania games, share a lot of similarities: relatively intricate, non-linear 2D maps for the player to explore, the gradual acquisition of power that enables access to previously unreachable areas, the flow of platforming and combat is fairly similar, etc.
That was the part that's unique to Castlevania, not necessarily a requirement for the whole genre.That's missing the -vania part that SotN added in more RPG cruft like exp/currency and gear.
Yeah, I hear you. I've never been a big fan of the genre name, but hey, it works (somewhat), and it is what it is. People will have a good understanding of what you mean if you use it as a descriptor.Eww people combine Castlevania and Metroid now? How are they alike? Yeah, they're both RPGs, well then if that's the only comparison, is it ok for anyone to combine Undertale and Final Fantasy? Didn't think so!
That was the part that's unique to Castlevania, not necessarily a requirement for the whole genre.
Hence why people call things like Hollow Knight and Ori metroidvanias despite not having the RPG part.
Oh yeah? I call 'em Soulslikes if I remember to, because "Soulsborne" sounds poop to me.see I think Metroid fans get upset at Castlevania but naming a genre after one game instead of two is still stupid
Oh yeah? I call 'em Soulslikes if I remember to, because "Soulsborne" sounds poop to me.
Do you not know what a Metroid or Castlevania is?
Similarly, are Castlevania games Metroidvanias, or are they just Castlevania games?
What do you guys think?