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Should Hot Rod really be blamed for Optimus Prime's death in TF: TM?
- Thread starter Uzumaki Goku
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Optimus should have shot Hot Rod then Megatron. Or go for Megatron, if Hot Rod died no big loss.
No you're not wrong.
It's seriously impressive how they managed to make Wheelie's entire entry rhyme for instance.
Wheelie (G1) - Transformers Wiki
And every image caption on Kup's page is a Grandpa Simpson quote.
Kup (G1) - Transformers Wiki
That's some dedication.
I remember watching in the theaters. The second Optimus said "no matter the cost" I knew what was coming. The kids in that theater were pissed. Walking out I remember hearing several asking their moms when Optimus would be coming back.
And it's totally Hot Rods fault.
I think him being shot repeatedly and blown to pieces was pretty dang brutal too...
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I heard kids were in tears when Optimus died.
I remember watching in the theaters. The second Optimus said "no matter the cost" I knew what was coming. The kids in that theater were pissed. Walking out I remember hearing several asking their moms when Optimus would be coming back.
And it's totally Hot Rods fault.
Yeah that moment was fucking amazing... Sure it was HRs fault, and Optimus was in give no fucks mode throughout the start of that movie, like he was on steroids or something lol.
I still remember being more pissed that they turned Megatron into Galvatron than I was at them killing Optimus. Fuck Galvatron, Megatron forever!
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This gif is giving me painful flashbacks.
Fuck the people who OK'd and wrote that Zombie Prime episode. Young kid me was depressed for weeks.
Can confirm. Saw it in theaters with my father and people were bawling when Prime died.
So much so that Hasbro hurriedly made an edit to the GI Joe movie to keep its lead hero alive before it released.
They were.
Honestly that movie was a huge shock to the system. They kill off everyone you knew and replace them in like 90 minutes or so (the movie is crazy short).
But it make a huge impression on me. I saw it twice in theaters and then recorded it off tv and watched it another thousand times after that.
Not to mention HOW they kill them off. This wasn't on off-screen situation, this was "we've known these characters for years, and now we're watching them be brutally butchered". From Ironhide being blasted in the face, to Jazz coughing up smoke after being shot in the chest, to seeing Starscream blasted and turned to ash, to the seen inside unicron here autobots are being melted alive in lava.... Easily the most gruesome and violent 80's animated movie... but it's okay cause they are just robots.
Ironhide was pretty obscured. Ratchet's death was more graphic.
That was Prowl. Jazz was still alive in S3 even though he had no lines.
No Autobots were visibly melted in Unicron. Spike, Bumblebee, Jazz and Cliffjumper were saved by Daniel.
Been a few years since I saw the movie, but I always thought that was Jazz. Either way, all of those scenes were very graphic. I enjoyed them as a kid even if Optimus dying was always a gut punch (and I fast forwarded that part on VHS most times).
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Yeah, Jazz survived, but sadly Scatman Crothers passed away, which is why Jazz ended up getting sidelined in the post movie series.
The key thing is that in GI Joe and Transformers they would have these giant elaborate battles every week but no one ever got hurt.
So to see 5 minutes into the movie a ship of Autobots getting jumped and murdered, followed by most of the original Transformers culminating in Optimus dying on the operating table or whatever the fuck that was just amazingly shocking for kids at the time.
I will say that after Prime died seeing Ultra Magnus being blown up and then put back together barely fazed me. I think I was most worried about Daniel or his dad dying after all the main guys had already been killed.
Tbh the deaths didn't get faze me at all. I thought it was cool af. It's not like the tone was the same as in the show. It was clearly dark from the start where Unicron devours a whole planet.
And I was still a child when I first saw it on VHS. Born in '85 so I never saw it in theaters.
I loved it too bro!
I said it shocked the hell out of me. It was not really emotional for me either. But it definitely melted part of my brain in an awesome 80s way.
I saw it in 4th grade and then in 5th grade I recorded it on tv (I was a pro and was able to get rid of 99.9% of the commercials) and just wore that VHS tape the fuck out.
As I was almost 5 when I watched it in theaters, I cried like a little wussy. And then when I rented it ten years later I did it again.
I was the same age.
It's my first memory of going to a movie in the theatre.
It was at least a decade until I saw it again. In that time I built it up to a mythical status in my memory and I wasn't sure if Transformers The Movie was a real thing that even happened.
Was a trip seeing it for only the second time around 15 years old.
I watched this at the movie theatre as a kid, the battle of Autobot City was traumatic to watch. I'll admit I still get teary eyed whenever I re-watch Prime's last stand on YouTube lol
I look at my small shelf of Masterpiece Transformers toys on display...it has MP-10 Prime and MP-36 Megatron staring each other down, MP-22 Magnus standing in the background and MP-8 Grimlock, MP-28 Hot Rod (with his fishing rod!), and MP-21 Bumblebee with Spike in his transforming suit all hanging out in the front...if anything they're all set up in a much less darker tone than the movie.
EDIT: slightly OT, but as nice as that new MP-44 Prime toy is, $450+ is too expensive! Takara/Tomy/Hasbro can only price gouge us traumatized kids so much lol
I look at my small shelf of Masterpiece Transformers toys on display...it has MP-10 Prime and MP-36 Megatron staring each other down, MP-22 Magnus standing in the background and MP-8 Grimlock, MP-28 Hot Rod (with his fishing rod!), and MP-21 Bumblebee with Spike in his transforming suit all hanging out in the front...if anything they're all set up in a much less darker tone than the movie.
EDIT: slightly OT, but as nice as that new MP-44 Prime toy is, $450+ is too expensive! Takara/Tomy/Hasbro can only price gouge us traumatized kids so much lol
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The Transformers Movie is one of the most cynical pieces of shit of all time. Always remember that the purpose of all TF media is: to sell toys. Clearing the shelves of all old toys, I mean characters, in a fairly traumatic fashion and then introducing a job lot of bullshit replacements is cynical as fuck.
Seriously, fuck that movie.
Seriously, fuck that movie.
I think my favorite part of this scene is actually Unicron's dying words and how that final Destiny is uttered like a old man's final breath, just petering out pathetically after all his self aggrandizing bull shit through out the film. Felt incredibly fitting.
It's quite the death rattle.
For a long time it was rumored that Leonard Nimoy recorded that line because Orson Wells had already died, but I think that's been disproven in recent years.
On-topic: yes
With that said, this movie was so cool. I was a Transformers nut when I was a kid (then the Bay films took over). I didn't see the Transformers movie until I was in 6th grade (so it was around 06) and it blew my mind. That Shuttle scene (and then the battle of Autobot City) was like my imaginary toy battles put into cartoon form. Fantastic film
With that said, this movie was so cool. I was a Transformers nut when I was a kid (then the Bay films took over). I didn't see the Transformers movie until I was in 6th grade (so it was around 06) and it blew my mind. That Shuttle scene (and then the battle of Autobot City) was like my imaginary toy battles put into cartoon form. Fantastic film
I think it was partially from the fact it was aimed at such young kids. Infinity War was aimed at a lot of different age groups, many of them older so I think expectations were a little different going into that. I guess it would be like a Disney animation where all your beloved characters all decided to kill each other once and for all.
I absolutely adore and love the over top lines in this movie.
One shall stand, one shall fall!
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
There's a reason Meg's a joke character in the comics.
It's a quote from the film, lol.Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
There's a reason Meg's a joke character in the comics.
Seeing this thread every time I refresh is bringing back the rage 6-year-old me felt watching this movie the weekend of release. I thought I was over it...
The movies anniversary BluRay release has interviews with the cast and crew. The head writer stated a scene was cut where they would have a bulk of the characters from the OG toyline runs gauntlet of Decepticons and be torn apart.
Also more here:
Reconstructed Deleted Scenes from The Transformers: The Movie
The folks over on The Spacebrigde facebook page have put together two deleted scenes from the 1986's The Transformers: The Movie. The scenes have been reconstructed using the original storyboards. The first scene involves the Autobots rebuffing Devastator
www.seibertron.com
