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Should big budget games utilize orchestra more for their music?
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ResetEra loves Hip-Hop, have you not been to the EctEtera forums and hangouts?
A lot of people took that as an attack on hiphop as opposed to criticism of song choice. That song was a bad fit for that trailer.
To be fair, that thread was an attack on both hip-hop and the song.
Depends on the game, Fifa or CoD don't need orchestral music, and the best game ever (wipeout) didn't, either.
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Echoing the response for more diverse music styles in games. We are in dire need of more Funk in games.
I know that I was pretty critical of the song choice, but I like hip-hop. That being said, I haven't looked through that thread in a long time (since it was active), so maybe it was more critical of hip-hop than I remember?
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That thread was definitely a mess. However, while there were quite a few posts saying that they don't care for hip-hop (and some were definitely coming in pretty hot) in one form or another, it seemed like there were twice as many people praising the song choice.
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I know you're dismissing haters on ERA but for said haters there's lots of good rap scores in games.
I wanted to be excited for Bomb Rush Cyberpunk, but being excited for it also means being in favor of Naganuma's pedophilic views.
Bruh, I was hyped as fuck when that Madworld soundtrack dropped. One of my all time favorites.
Whatever suits the game best. Though I wouldn't say no to more live instruments being used instead of MIDI (not necessarily orchestrated).
Too many games lean too heavily into trying to be movies, and that leaves a lot of game soundtracks being extremely poor. Movie soundtracks are usually better than games trying to be movie soundtracks. I'm tired of it. Old game music was much better.
Game developers need to go back to stealing popular music and putting the songs in games.
Game developers need to go back to stealing popular music and putting the songs in games.
It's still legit impressive. Anarchy Reigns has some good ones too but Madworld is where it's at. I'm sure like me you are shaking ya head at those poll results, lol.
Doesn't hurt, its also nice when an experienced composer just gets to mess around and experiment even with generic material
In this case Bear McCreary who they liked working with so much he later also got SCEA's God of War which was another level
In this case Bear McCreary who they liked working with so much he later also got SCEA's God of War which was another level
It depends on the game. FFVIIR's suffered imo for a lack of synth and heavier sounding instruments in favor of relying more on the orchestra. The soundtrack is really well made and has a lot of good tracks to listen to outside the game, but the atmosphere of Midgar while playing rarely felt as oppressive and artificial as it should.
Not everything.
Demon's Souls remake is one such example where it really didn't need it. Everything was so overdone and it overused the choir.
Demon's Souls remake is one such example where it really didn't need it. Everything was so overdone and it overused the choir.
Doesn't matter if orchestra is used for me, it's more about how it's used. There are many games that have orchestrated soundtracks but not all at neccasarily memorable
They should use more live orchestras if they're already going for that sound, so for example I do wish Dark Souls 3 had the same treatment as Bloodborne did for the actual recordings, but I also think we have more than enough "epic music" in the industry already. I don't need it in every game.
I want games to sound different and unique in their music, with their own identity. Sekiro's OST isn't anywhere near my favorite among From games, but I definitely appreciate that it's not just Dark Souls III-2 or Bloodborne 2 in that department like how the Demon's Souls Remake sounds to me. I like the classical japanese sounds and the couple of distinctively Tenchu-like songs.
I'd be thrilled to hear something like this in Elden Ring, given its Scottish influences:
It's part of why I love Meguro so much, he injects so much personality to every game he works on, with extremely memorable and catchy songs that can't really be described as "epic" most of the time. He embraces a different overall musical identity and genre for each game and runs with it. I have more issues with Persona 5 than I can count, but the soundtrack is god tier, as expected, and I still regularly rewatch the Persona concerts. The 2012 one is still my favorite, overall.
I want games to sound different and unique in their music, with their own identity. Sekiro's OST isn't anywhere near my favorite among From games, but I definitely appreciate that it's not just Dark Souls III-2 or Bloodborne 2 in that department like how the Demon's Souls Remake sounds to me. I like the classical japanese sounds and the couple of distinctively Tenchu-like songs.
I'd be thrilled to hear something like this in Elden Ring, given its Scottish influences:
It's part of why I love Meguro so much, he injects so much personality to every game he works on, with extremely memorable and catchy songs that can't really be described as "epic" most of the time. He embraces a different overall musical identity and genre for each game and runs with it. I have more issues with Persona 5 than I can count, but the soundtrack is god tier, as expected, and I still regularly rewatch the Persona concerts. The 2012 one is still my favorite, overall.
Not to knock your hobby; indeed, I admire people who can play instruments, and some of my most favorite pieces from media are ultimately film scores. But I do think there is something to say about how ubiquitous orchestral music is for western media in general, and subsequently how undervalued non-orchestral (ultimately, non-white) music is as the basis for media soundtracks. I think there is lots of room in an ever-diversifying society to allow other music genres to score our media, for people to discover new sounds, instruments, and local folks songs to provide more unique and/or more accurate soundscapes for different works, without tying it back to a typical orchestra.
Das jus me doe.
Absolutely fuckin' not, there's plenty of that already. How about a game with an original country soundtrack? Or a reggae soundtrack? Or afrobeat(s)? Imagine how sick it would be if a developer got to use Fela Kuti's entire discography. Or Bhangra, that'd be awesome
The Endless Ocean games had this kind of music and it worked really well!
One thing I did like with FFVII remake is that the further you got into the game, the more adventurous the soundtrack felt. I guess once you're so far in they can move away from the "safety" and go "well, we got you know, try out all of THIS!"
I was worried after the demo but was a bit happier with the final result.
Sounds interesting! I'll watch a few videos to check it out, thanks for letting me know.
Hybrid scores do it for me like what's in Miles Morales.
I think instead of orchestral stuff, which is amazing, games need to do a better job of creating epic scores again. A lot of stuff is just so generic and lackluster or licensed.
I think instead of orchestral stuff, which is amazing, games need to do a better job of creating epic scores again. A lot of stuff is just so generic and lackluster or licensed.
if they make it work
lots of big AAA games get a full orchestra so to emulate big blockbuster movies cause they want to be seen as films and up with awful soundtracks
then you have games like pokemon outsell them all with funky beats
lots of big AAA games get a full orchestra so to emulate big blockbuster movies cause they want to be seen as films and up with awful soundtracks
then you have games like pokemon outsell them all with funky beats
I believe Hollow Knight: Silksong has been confirmed to use an orchestra/real band instead of digital audio in the original game right? The two tracks that were released months ago are really good but it'll take some time getting used to.
I'd definitely love some more jazz, funk, and synth, that's for sure. One thing I've hated is that as games were able to be orchestrated, a lot of the old RPG music went away from using synth as much, and it really hurt. But soundtracks like Persona 5 show how much jazz and funk (and some rock, too) is missing from games, it was such a breath of fresh air.
That said I love orchestra and classical music too. We just need less of the "cinematic" style that we're getting a lot these days.
That said I love orchestra and classical music too. We just need less of the "cinematic" style that we're getting a lot these days.
Eh if anything I say it should use orchestral instruments less. More synth and rock influence.
I love orchestral music, but there's too much "wannabe hollywood" sound in games.
I love orchestral music, but there's too much "wannabe hollywood" sound in games.
I think more games could benefit from placing a higher focus on soundtracks in games. Music can take an otherwise average or good game and make it great. I'm honestly of the opinion that's a huge part of the continued success of Nintendo as a company.
Honestly, while I do really like the work that goes behind (classic) orchestral arrangements, I want more Big Band ensembles, love them to death.
And if your OST is brass-heavy, hooo boy, that's the good stuff.
Also I don't mind MIDI, for example: ALBW is one of my favourite OSTs, and it's (nearly) all synthetized, but it's so expertly crafted to replicate live instruments that it goes unnoticed to most.
And if your OST is brass-heavy, hooo boy, that's the good stuff.
Also I don't mind MIDI, for example: ALBW is one of my favourite OSTs, and it's (nearly) all synthetized, but it's so expertly crafted to replicate live instruments that it goes unnoticed to most.
Whatever fits, I feel like there are plenty of big budget games with orchestral scores, I don't really know why we'd call for more unless you're some kind of orchestral score junkie.
For real, I'd like to see more of that over yet-another-orchestra.
For real, I'd like to see more of that over yet-another-orchestra.
Then I'm guessing it's also the first take you've ever seen on ResetEra.
Variety is good and we already have a ton of western orchestral music in games at the moment, some of it very good and some of it rather bland.
What I'd like to see more of is orchestral manipulation akin to Olivier Deriviere's soundtrack to Remember Me, and music that helps fit a game's world rather than just sounding 'epic', 'sweeping' or sitting in the background doing nothing.
What I'd like to see more of is orchestral manipulation akin to Olivier Deriviere's soundtrack to Remember Me, and music that helps fit a game's world rather than just sounding 'epic', 'sweeping' or sitting in the background doing nothing.