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Should a potential Resident Evil 4 REmake take out most of the action?

Should Resident Evil 4...

  • Be a full action horror game like the original

    Votes: 615 82.8%

  • Considerably tone down the action (no suplex, bullet sponge zombies like REmake 2, and so on)

    Votes: 98 13.2%

  • Straight survival horror where avoiding enemies at all cost is the best course of action

    Votes: 53 7.1%
  • Total voters
    743
  • Poll closed .

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We all know that Action RE is a contentious subject. Some people love it, some people hate it. Thing is, RE 4 seems to be able to bridge the gap between action and horror fans and as such is considered one of the best in the series as well as one of the best games of all time. So, the question is, how should Capcom handle a REmake 4? Should it be pretty much the same only with modernized controls and graphics to honor the games legacy as perhaps the best action horror game of all time which influence 15 years of game design and counting? Should it be an overhaul to remove the over the top action set pieces and actions like suplexes? Should it be a straight survival horror game like REmake 2 where you can't do more than shove an enemy at it can take up to 10 to 13 headshots just to down a single zombie?
 
ClickyCal'

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Just....don't remake it? It's not super outdated like the first three games were. At least wait awhile too, and even then, just do a full visual overhaul and tweak controls.
 
Fisty

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They wont remake 4, it's already on modern consoles and is held up as an example of a perfect game by many
 
skipgo

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They could improve the puzzles and make it so you have to explore more to find keys. I'm not sure if it would be an actual improvement, though tbh.

Well they could smooth out the back half of the game, maybe dial back the weird nonsensical war zone stuff and have a more involved horror sequence in the island lab with the monsters.
 

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Me to the OP for making such silly questions

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Z-Beat

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I don't think RE4 would gain much from a REmake. The technical gaps between RE1 and REmake and RE2 and RE2make are massive. A remake of RE4 would just result in a better looking RE4, and I'm pretty sure a fan just finished a version of that not too long ago.

As for removing the action, that's a lot of RE4's identity. It's the pivot towards action oriented gameplay. All of the survival horror entries were trapped on old gen until they were remade, which is why they needed them in the first place.

Also they rerelease it at least twice every gen so there's no real point. RE1, 2, and 3 Classic don't get many rereleases (the last ones were PS3 digital and DS games)

The only RE games past the PS1 that need remakes are CVX and Outbreak (and maybe 0, but that could pass with a remaster that adds item boxes in, probably)
 
Weiss

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There's literally nothing in RE4 that needs to be updated, let alone warranting a full remake.
 
Gilver

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Also want to say that RE 4 is obviously getting a remake for those saying that it doesn't need it. Not needing it is not a good financial reason, also RE 4 with way better graphics just sounds like a better RE 4 and who wouldn't want that?

I dont get the hate for the idea of a remake for RE4.
 

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i absolutely do not want to see Resident Evil 4 get remade, but if it were to and if it were to be backed with a huge budget (to the point where it's almost entirely a new game and simply using the original as a loose guide, like RE2), I would like it to be a drastically different game

this doesn't mean i need it to have a dramatic shift toward puzzles and slow-burn atmosphere, but I'm open to that
 
Cipher Peon

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Hated the action stuff in Resi 4, including the suplex. I would prefer a remake be a straight up horror game.
 
Jawmuncher

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Resident Evil 4 is the FF7 of its series. A remake is inevitable as it would allow Capcom a new game to infinitely port. 15 years of RE4 ports is running dry, it sells less than RE5 and RE6 on all the platforms it has been on port wise. So its age is definitely showing, no matter how many of us deem it the "perfect" game.

Similar to REmake, some elements of RE4 just aren't to the liking of modern expectations such as not being able to move and shoot. There's a lot you can do with a RE4make and that potential is VERY interesting to think about.

Stuff like the Bitores boss fight or Regenerators in RE engine?
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Yes please, and that's only the tip of the ice berg.
 
Reven Wolf

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I'm not a fan of 4 but it should keep the spirit of 4.

People love it for those elements. What I like about 7 and REM2 is that those brought back elements of the earlier games. It would be unfair to fans of 4 to jam those same elements Sheree they weren't before.
 
Tyaren

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Makes zero sense to actively ruin one of the best games ever made in its remake, lol.
Just update the graphics to todays standards that's all that's needed.
 

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Should a potential Mario 64 Remake take out the Third Dimension?

We all know that 3D Mario is a contentious subject. Some people love it, some people hate it. Thing is, SM64 seems to be able to bridge the gap between 2D Platformers and real life parkour and as such is considered one of the best in the series as well as one of the best games of all time. So, the question is, how should Nintendo handle a Super Mario 64...2? Should it be pretty much the same only with modernized controls and graphics to honor the games legacy as perhaps the best 3D platformer game of all time which influence 24 years of game design and counting? Should it be an overhaul to remove literally everything that made this game special when compared to its predecessors? Should it be a shitty best of both worlds situation like Super Paper Mario where you can platform in 2D and 3D, but it's disappointing either way?
 
Z-Beat

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Jawmuncher said:
Resident Evil 4 is the FF7 of its series. A remake is inevitable as it would allow Capcom a new game to infinitely port. 15 years of RE4 ports is running dry, it sells less than RE5 and RE6 on all the platforms it has been on port wise. So its age is definitely showing, no matter how many of us deem it the "perfect" game.

Similar to REmake, some elements of RE4 just aren't to the liking of modern expectations such as not being able to move and shoot. There's a lot you can do with a RE4make and that potential is VERY interesting to think about.
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We're not saying there's stuff that you can't improve on, but you're just not gonna get the same wow factor you got with the other REmakes, or FF7

Look at this, for example
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We're hitting diminishing returns on gaming improvements right now. In like 5-7 years if games get another big boost, yeah I can see an RE4make, but as it is now? I just don't see a reason.

On top of that, using my example, RE2make didn't really remove anything (except the zapping system) but it double down on what the original already was: a survival horror game. RE4 has its own identity: a tongue in cheek espionage horror action game.
 
A Strong Latte

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I don't want it remade because there's no way they're striking gold with how well the dynamic difficulty worked in the the first one in a remake
 

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"Should a remake of one of the greatest games of all time be stripped of what made it so beloved in the first place?"
 

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if anything re2 remake added a bit more action than the original. keep it campy, re4 is as prefect as a game ever made, but people are kidding themselves if they dont think capcom isnt already remaking it, they like money afterall
 
DVCY201

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I'll be controversial and say: yes. If they remake RE4, go all the way. They should bring it in line with what REmake 2 and 3 are clearly going for with that style of gameplay; a heavier emphasis on puzzles, ammo preservation, and exploration. RE4 is brilliant, but I have also played said brilliance many, many times. The existence of REmake 4 will not take away old RE4, and it will be new and exciting to see a different perspective from the current team. It'll be less a remake, and more a re-imagining. I'd be interested in seeing CV first though, they can finally fix it.
 

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Remakes should capture the spirit of the original game, that's the entire point. If you don't have action, you lose what makes RE4 RE4.
 

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I hate to tell you this but they arent going to take the action out of the most beloved entry in the series op.
 
Jawmuncher

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Z-Beat said:
We're not saying there's stuff that you can't improve on, but you're just not gonna get the same wow factor you got with the other REmakes, or FF7 based on you example

Look at this, for example
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We're hitting diminishing returns on gaming improvements right now. In like 5-7 years if games get another big boost, yeah I can see an RE4make, but as it is now? I just don't see a reason.

On top of that, using my example, RE2make didn't really remove anything (except the zapping system) but it double down on what the original already was: a survival horror game. RE4 has its own identity: a tongue in cheek espionage horror action game.
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I mean Resident Evil 4 is a good looking game. You're right that the jump of PS2 to next-gen might not seem as radical as PS1 to current. But even with the RE4 HD project, there's a LOT more that can be done as we go into next-gen with the original (Similar to how much of a difference SOTC is to the remaster). Especially if the cutscene models of RE2/3 are what we can expect to be standard models next-gen.

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Net_Wrecker

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This wave of threads wanting to make RE4 not RE4 for this hypothetical remake is worst resetera

We need to move on from this phase ASAP
 
Aurc

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Whatever they do, whether it's doubling down on the action (more combat options and melee moves for Leon), or going in a different direction (greater emphasis on horror), I just want a fantastic, amazing game. As long as it's that, I don't care either way. There's certainly a lot in RE4 that you could run with in a horror direction.
 
Z-Beat

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Jawmuncher said:
I mean Resident Evil 4 is a good looking game. You're right that the jump of PS2 to next-gen might not seem as radical as PS1 to current. But even with the RE4 HD project, there's a LOT more that can be done as we go into next-gen with the original (Similar to how much of a difference SOTC is to the remaster). Especially if the cutscene models of RE2/3 are what we can expect to be standard models next-gen.

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I'd be cool with a remaster but I consider that to be different from a REmake, and I don't think RE4 needs a REmake. SotC on PS4 is still the same game but it just looks nicer. The REmakes are both graphics updates and revisions.
 
Skyebaron

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A good RE4 remake should considerably reduce the shooting in the last 3rd? of the game. I think its after the last Krauser fight. That one part with the cover based shooting is terrible and a blemish on a nearly perfect game.
 
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