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Shinobi on Xbox "Stuff that was planned for this month pushed to next month."
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Why would anyone not just pay another $50 for a PS5 as opposed to Lockhart that is rumored to only be a 1080p console and 4 teraflops? Lockhart might be a digital unit as well.
Sorry, I just don't recall you saying they ever had strong messaging.
I wonder how long they can hold off on pricing because retailers will be carrying 4 different Playstations to sell.
Ps4 sold 6.5 millions until March 2014. I don't think ps5 can do 6 millions this year and even Xbox 4 million. 3 millions for Xbox would be incredible.
Well, i though many said Microsoft was so ahead of Sony announcing stuff and giving info but I guess that's not exactly right.
Understandable because both platform holders need to nail it i guess, no any misstep must be avoided, and MS two recent shows, well.... That apparent security 6-8 months ago has vanished
Understandable because both platform holders need to nail it i guess, no any misstep must be avoided, and MS two recent shows, well.... That apparent security 6-8 months ago has vanished
It makes zero sense for MS to reveal the Series S this month and not an associated price.
MS - "Hey everyone! Look at this box! It's weaker than the one we showed you before! Cool huh?"
Buyer - "Why would I buy that instead of the one you already showed me?"
MS - "Well it's less expensive!"
Buyer - "How much?"
MS - "It's the value tier of console for gamers who want a next gen experience at a lesser price!"
Buyer - "How much less? I don't even know how much the first box costs. How am I supposed to judge if it's a good value or something better for me?"
MS - "Did I mention it has Gamepass!?"
MS - "Hey everyone! Look at this box! It's weaker than the one we showed you before! Cool huh?"
Buyer - "Why would I buy that instead of the one you already showed me?"
MS - "Well it's less expensive!"
Buyer - "How much?"
MS - "It's the value tier of console for gamers who want a next gen experience at a lesser price!"
Buyer - "How much less? I don't even know how much the first box costs. How am I supposed to judge if it's a good value or something better for me?"
MS - "Did I mention it has Gamepass!?"
Oh, I'm pretty sure they are waiting for Sony. But:
MS not wanting to go first for anything, but this is Sony right now in this game of price chicken
Lmao. Pretty much. That just had a god damn PS4 State of Play. With sprinkles of PS5 footage.
I say September is when prices and plans get finalized
Sony not having to compete against halo is a sigh of relief for them.
Sony not having to compete against halo is a sigh of relief for them.
A cheap series s has the potential to sell a lot more than that.
I'd say things were fine up until the "cross-gen for the first few years" interview with Matt Booty. Since then the messaging's been getting poorer and more contradictory as time's gone on.
What really annoys me is MS showed the Series X first eight months ago and they're still waiting for Sony to make every move first since then (seems like). They still have an entire second, separate console to announce and launch is +/- three months away! Are they waiting for Sony to announce a secret other console first? I just don't understand what they're doing or what their strategy is anymore.
"look: for several hours now I have been told from credible sources the reason from posponed announcement . however due to the importance and sensitivity around the subject I have refrained from going on it. i don't feel comfortable with it currently."
This is the news right now about next gen XD
This is the news right now about next gen XD
Or they could just... announce the price? Someone has to go first.
i'd imagine this could be the multiplayer reveal. though next month seems awfully optimistic :/
you wouldn't. If there's only a $50 difference between Lockhart and a PS5, even a digital one Lockhart is dead.
Lockhart is a $399 unit. The PS5 DE is going to be $479-$499, minimum. Can't see it going less than this.
Ps4 sold 4 Million in 2013 and Xbox one 3 million.
I have a hard time to believe Xbox can repeat these numbers I expect something between 2-3 million at max.
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Yup.
If Sony's event is still on for this month, then god I pray there's delay's to soften the blow for everyone at 343.
With the Kinect at 499. Xbox will sell out per usual. By the time sales start to slow (if they slow) Halo comes out. People need to relax.
I don't think you ever understood or even agreed with their strategy, which is why I was a bit confused to hear you now say after the fact they had good messaging in the beginning.
Of course they are waiting for Sony and why wouldn't they? Sony loves to be reactionary (with Xbox) and they did a msterful job at the begginning of this generation. Obviously Microsoft does not want to be in that position again with pricing or power.
Ideally Microsoft would love to undercut Sony on both ends with price but realistically I could see $500 Series X/PS5, $449 PS5 digital, and $349 Lockhart. For Lockhart to really have an impact it needs to be $299
Maybe both Sony & Microsoft will actually delay the launch to 2021 when things have stabilized better worldwide.
These aren't incomplete video games. The designs are final and the consoles are being manufactured as we speak. The only reason they would be delayed at this point is if they chose to wait for a stronger launch lineup.
I really want a PS5 though, even if it's just the Astro Bot pack in game. It's like my own personal reward to finishing this year sane lol.
Either company needs to just come out and say "We will be £50/$50 cheaper than the (insert console name here)"
As it stands, this seems like one of the weakest launch periods for both new consoles.
The promise of big last gen games releasing around the same time (eg Cyberpunk), or earlier in the year (eg TLoU 2) running with better visuals/performance seems to be the bigger draw than native next-gen games at the moment.
Next month will still look like this:
Damned good show.
This news is garbage though. It's not even just Sony and Microsoft...we're not getting much of anything from anyone. Can't even get screenshots from sports titles.
Really. It's sad to jump in a new gen so similar with the last one. Novelty fades away fast but it's still a guilty pleasureb
Ps5 will sell more than Ps4. If Xbox gap will stay the same as Xbox One, a failure that made Xbox stop giving official data on console sales, it's the opposite of what Xbox needed after this generation.
as I said elsewhere those price points aren't realistic. The PS4 came in at $399 largely because it was the weakest console ever released relative the the market, with no BC functionality whatsoever. Even with that, if you adjust the cost of the PS4 for inflation you end up with a unit that's about $450 in current dollars.
Even with lockhart stripping out the disc drive and gimping the GPU, you are absolutely not getting a unit with the capabilities that system has (and it is in fact, demonstrably better than an XBO X) launching at an effective $100 less than the PS4, let alone $150 less launching at $299. Simply outrageous to imply it. Microsoft would lose their shirts on that unit and never make it back.
The PS4 launched at (an inflation adjusted) $450 and will cruise past 120 million units this year. Even if you assume that $399 is some sort of psychological barrier important to the marketplace, there is no reason to assume that the userbase is price sensitive enough that MS *has* to launch at $299. The PS5 even with the DE isn't coming close to $399 and MS knows this so going below that number doesn't make sense. It's simply too advanced a system. You sell your product for whatever will move the most units at a price that won't hurt you.
Lockhart is $399 minimum.
Presumably the halo infinite delay wrecks all their plans and they're looking to come up with a new marketing pitch for the console that can work without a tentpole game or any next gen exclusives.
that and they probably REALLY want to undercut Sony.
that and they probably REALLY want to undercut Sony.