Did they fix the stuttering/freeze issues? Maybe in a previous update?
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Shin Megami Tensei 3 HD updated to allow freely selecting skills during fusion
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Skill inheritance selecting is the main thing I was shocked that they didn't include in the remaster, so I'm glad that they're changing that. Are the load times fixed too?
Nothing stopping you guys from selecting bad skills if that makes your experience better. I'll take the time saver thank you very much.
Just played it a bit and I don't feel like the input lag is any different. Is the update not out yet?
Glad this is being added, the randomness was painfully annoying and antiquated.
Its been a while since I played other recent SMT or Persona games, but as I'm replaying P4G now and noticed the MP and HP costs aren't listed in inheritance like they are here, have the other recent games done this?
Its been a while since I played other recent SMT or Persona games, but as I'm replaying P4G now and noticed the MP and HP costs aren't listed in inheritance like they are here, have the other recent games done this?
People saying this will hurt balance is trying too hard lol
We always got the skills we wanted anyway. It's just that we wasted 10-200 seconds to do it. All this update does is saving time.
Also, lol at the people saying the lag issues couldn't be solved because it was an Unity thing.
We always got the skills we wanted anyway. It's just that we wasted 10-200 seconds to do it. All this update does is saving time.
Also, lol at the people saying the lag issues couldn't be solved because it was an Unity thing.
That's an amazing idea. At the end of the day the masochist in me will beat it twice just to see the difference, but damn they should do this.
Finding out they were keeping it the old way was all it took to un-sell me on this game, so this is nice to hear.
I didn't think the music could be that bad but this is worse than I thought it would be.
That's so awesome that they listened. I'm not a huge SMT person, and this was my first time playing 3. I wasn't heartbroken that the features weren't in before, but I did find it a bit disappointing. Time to start the game back up! I'm really enjoying it so far.
It was always a really cool game with a very strong unity between the gameplay mechanics along with things like aesthetics and music. This is a very welcome QoL change that will only serve to make it more accessible and remove some needless frustration.
I think you'll really dig it as you get further in. I prefer the newer games thanks to the newer fusion features, but honestly this update might make this my favorite entry and perhaps turn it into my favorite single player RPG.
I gotta get back into it. I'm super slow playing JRPGs, but it's aesthetically super pleasing and I love exploring the world. The characters are more interesting than I was expecting, too. What a great intro, too. I was totally sucked in.
The original music feels like you are standing outside of the doors where the gig is happening.
I'm not sure how possible this is. There's a bunch of cutscene music that was never released on any CD, and there are some tricks with the audio that are programmed in. The most obvious being that the normal battle theme has seven different variants for the part at the end before it loops back to the beginning (I don't remember if/what others are but I don't think it's straightforward).
But really though, hearing the music side by side is jarring. Not sure how bad it'll feel actually in the game.
Yeah I assumed the complaints were a little overblown, but that video really paints a stark contrast.
This really should've been in the game from the beginning...
anyway, this made my decision from not buying it to will buy it.
anyway, this made my decision from not buying it to will buy it.
That's awesome. Saves the time of getting the same result... just wasting your time by backing in and out of fusions for god knows how long.
That's awesome. A big part of why I loved SMT IV so much is because of how much control you had over demon fusion, and I was pretty obsessed with building my favorite demons up. Nocturne not having that was a huge turn-off when I first played it. I might actually give this remaster a go now.
good, what about performances?
or was the bad WoM due to the bugs?
I wonder when we'll get a firm release date for the West
Does anyone know if turning off the voices reverts the demons that had their battle voices changed to the original version?
Fixed.
Oh! Input lag fixed too. Never got a chance to play this...looking like the NA release will be the time!
I can't help but feel like this may backfire. I like to consider the MegaTen series the original Souls games, since they were known for their inaccessibility and brutal difficulty. Adding QoL kind of takes away the entire point of that. It's the same reason why FFXI diehards turn their noses up at FFXIV.
Part of what made SMT4 so easy though was that there really weren't any limits on fusion, so the game pretty much lost all semblance of difficulty early in. SMT4A addressed this in a really good way by giving different demons different affinities and limiting MP, so you would have to take more care in creating more specialized demons instead of just putting all the best skills on a few.
I don't think it really made that big of a difference, honestly, affinity was cool, but fairly minor, IMO. I'm hoping they expand on that in SMTV.
As people have said, the change here doesn't change anything you couldn't do already with a bit of time and luck, so I'm all for it.
A bit is an understatement or I had the worst luck
I tried once to get every skill I wanted on a demon and it took me three hours. I couldn't imagine spending the time repeating that for every demon going forward so I just settled for two or three skills.
People in this thread are talking like they spent 15 minutes or less to set up a demon with top tier skills
Oh for sure, and the end result is that a lot of people will find the game easier on the whole since most people wouldn't spend that amount of time on it. But, IMO, it's still just getting rid of a huge time tax instead of changing something that couldn't be done at all previously, so I'm all for it. After playing SMT4 it'd be really hard for me to go back to.
I agree, it weirdly fits both the aesthetic of the game and the ambiance. I like it.
Lol 3 hours? I would spend at most like 5 minutes and get generally everything I want. There may have been a skill or two I'd like changed, but they were usually of low enough priority to where I didn't really care and they weren't really necessary/changed basically nothing.
It's hard for me to see this changing anything about game balance besides just spending less time on the fusion screen. Maybe people saying it would also spent 3 hours on one fusion tho.
All modern day MegaTen games have this option when fusing, so... it won't make a difference.
Nah this is just an original oversight that is being corrected. You can prefer the random inheritance, but it's not what made Nocturne and the older games difficult.
There's no intrinsic charm to the series DNA that's tied to random skills lol
Did they ever interview Shoji Meguro (the lead composer) about the music in this release? Seems like he's gone into hiding! Where's the original music files kept, Shoji? Was it kept on his Windows XP PC that got upgraded and lost it all, or something?
lmao that disappearing hihat on the original battle street what the hell
I seem to recall someone digging up an interview with Shoji Meguro, the lead composer, saying that they had to cut the sample rate to fit in the PS2's memory.
I do agree that, in some ways, it's part of the game's aesthetic now.
The thing is that you can't just drop in tracks straight from the OST; music on the PS2 didn't work like that. It's dynamic/sequenced, so you need every part of the tracks which were recorded individually; not a completed song.
I would hope that those restrictions are still in place.
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