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Totally worth the crunch (if there is crunch culture at that company).
It's definitely not stated at all, I'm just drawing a connection with a common issue re: wage disparity where people can't afford the goods they produce. I'm stretching that assumption here, on the grounds that you might assume a dev workforce is likely to have recent consoles.
It's true- they both use the letter "p" in their first word and end in Eve.i mean they both have eve in the title so i guess thats a connection...
Why would you make that assumption for a console that's well known for being hard to acquire? I doubt there's a way for company employees to have good access to getting one unless they actually work at PS Studios.
At Lucasfilm we once got ipads and iphones for christmas from George Lucas. Little did we know he'd sell his company to Disney shortly after and they'd shut us (LucasArts Sgpore) down lol.That's a nice gesture. I wish my CEO would do something like this.
All we get once a year is a bottle of wine.
Damn that's some very nice studios lolProject EVE CEO spends $140k buying PS5’s for his workforce after the reveal
Hyung-Tae Kim celebrates the studio's reveal of the game by buying everyone Sony's latest consolewww.theloadout.com
"First reported by industry analyst Daniel Ahmad on Twitter, this news is one of the most wholesome CEO stories in quite some time and, shows how much Kim values each of his employees.
To put this generous move into context, a PS5 in South Korea costs 628,000 won (that's approximately $540), so Kim has just spent 162,280,000 won ($140,400) on equipping his workforce with new generation gaming machines."
Btw anyone curious this is what their Studio set up is like:
First Child StudioAbout – :: S H I F T U P ::
shiftup.co.kr
Second Eve Studio
Project EVE CEO spends $140k buying PS5’s for his workforce after the reveal
Hyung-Tae Kim celebrates the studio's reveal of the game by buying everyone Sony's latest consolewww.theloadout.com
"First reported by industry analyst Daniel Ahmad on Twitter, this news is one of the most wholesome CEO stories in quite some time and, shows how much Kim values each of his employees.
To put this generous move into context, a PS5 in South Korea costs 628,000 won (that's approximately $540), so Kim has just spent 162,280,000 won ($140,400) on equipping his workforce with new generation gaming machines."
Btw anyone curious this is what their Studio set up is like:
First Child StudioAbout – :: S H I F T U P ::
shiftup.co.kr
Second Eve Studio
Hey at least you worked for George Lucas and you got a free iPad. 😅At Lucasfilm we once got ipads and iphones for christmas from George Lucas. Little did we know he'd sell his company to Disney shortly after and they'd shut us (LucasArts Sgpore) down lol.
MiHoYo earlier this year gifted their employment in a similar fashion.
It's true- they both use the letter "p" in their first word and end in Eve.
Damn! That's a quite nice office.Project EVE CEO spends $140k buying PS5’s for his workforce after the reveal
Hyung-Tae Kim celebrates the studio's reveal of the game by buying everyone Sony's latest consolewww.theloadout.com
"First reported by industry analyst Daniel Ahmad on Twitter, this news is one of the most wholesome CEO stories in quite some time and, shows how much Kim values each of his employees.
To put this generous move into context, a PS5 in South Korea costs 628,000 won (that's approximately $540), so Kim has just spent 162,280,000 won ($140,400) on equipping his workforce with new generation gaming machines."
Btw anyone curious this is what their Studio set up is like:
First Child StudioAbout – :: S H I F T U P ::
shiftup.co.kr
Second Eve Studio
Parasite Eve is dead. There's no connection outside of the utilization of EVE name.They said one of the enemies was being "parasatized" in the trailer.
The connections keep coming.
My original post was about the discomfort I have with a workplace structure where one person at the top is given so much excess income that they can make an expensive gift to everyone in the company. The circumstances become even more uncomfortable when individual employees can't buy their own console (whether for practical or financial reasons), but again, one person has the connections to buy a large quantity of them.
I said this previously, but this is being postured as an individual gift from the CEO, not from the company. It's a situation where there's a disconnect between workers and their earnings (because a CEO is given their earnings), compounded by the availability. And the result is unfortunately the classic issue of workers not being able to buy/use what they produce.
Parasite Eve is dead. There's no connection outside of the utilization of EVE name.
Feels like a pretty huge difference to me whether those reasons are practical or financial. One suggests they get paid so little they can't buy the product they're making, the other one is simply that a CEO will have connections to the people he's been negotiating a platform deal with.My original post was about the discomfort I have with a workplace structure where one person at the top is given so much excess income that they can make an expensive gift to everyone in the company. The circumstances become even more uncomfortable when individual employees can't buy their own console (whether for practical or financial reasons), but again, one person has the connections to buy a large quantity of them.
I said this previously, but this is being postured as an individual gift from the CEO, not from the company. There's a difference between a company having resources and sharing them with informal benefits to employees, vs. a CEO having a disgusting amount of the company income funneled to them, and then making gestures that lionize them for their charity to the workforce. It's a situation where there's a disconnect between workers and their earnings (because a CEO is given their earnings), compounded by a hardware shortage. And exactly as you describe, the result unfortunately resembles the classic issue of workers not being able to buy/use what they produce.
I'm sure the employees have the income to purchase one. Acting like the CEO getting access to the consoles because he works with Sony being a problem is weird. Also yes there's a giant income disparity between an employee and the CEO. Welcome to the corporate world. That's a completely separate problem.My original post was about the discomfort I have with a workplace structure where one person at the top is given so much excess income that they can make an expensive gift to everyone in the company. The circumstances become even more uncomfortable when individual employees can't buy their own console (whether for practical or financial reasons), but again, one person has the connections to buy a large quantity of them.
I said this previously, but this is being postured as an individual gift from the CEO, not from the company. There's a difference between a company having resources and sharing them with informal benefits to employees, vs. a CEO having a disgusting amount of the company income funneled to them, and then making gestures that lionize them for their charity to the workforce. It's a situation where there's a disconnect between workers and their earnings (because a CEO is given their earnings), compounded by a hardware shortage. And exactly as you describe, the result unfortunately resembles the classic issue of workers not being able to buy/use what they produce.
So if you want to nab a PS5 you only need to make a game with high quality visuals for the PS5. Easy.
Yeah those were nice haha. Although I've only met George once in my 4-5 years in Lucas Singapore lol. Worked more with Dave Filoni when we were doing Clone Wars the tv series lol.Hey at least you worked for George Lucas and you got a free iPad. 😅
Employee who's spent 3-4 years working on the game looking up to see the reward is a way to play the game:The CEO said that he chose PS5's as the surprise gift so that all employees can play the game when it comes out.
I'm saying I think the parasitism in the pay structure for CEOs vs actual workers is bad, and that you don't care, based on your saying that you don't care. Where's the assumption? If you're saying you do think that's bad, then say it.
And my assumption that this is being postured as a personal gesture rather than a perk from the company comes down to "Hyung-Tae Kim celebrated the successful showing of Project Eve at the PlayStation showcase by purchasing a PS5 for each of his 260 staff." There's a difference between saying [a person bought them for his staff] vs saying they're [a gift from the company] or something to that effect.
It's all pretty speculative. Given that the company is producing a large-budget console game where their previous projects were mobile games, I would be willing to bet that at least 50-75% of the staff there probably wasn't around to work on anything that actually profited the company yet.
looks like a lounge. something I find at Soho House.Project EVE CEO spends $140k buying PS5’s for his workforce after the reveal
Hyung-Tae Kim celebrates the studio's reveal of the game by buying everyone Sony's latest consolewww.theloadout.com
"First reported by industry analyst Daniel Ahmad on Twitter, this news is one of the most wholesome CEO stories in quite some time and, shows how much Kim values each of his employees.
To put this generous move into context, a PS5 in South Korea costs 628,000 won (that's approximately $540), so Kim has just spent 162,280,000 won ($140,400) on equipping his workforce with new generation gaming machines."
Btw anyone curious this is what their Studio set up is like:
First Child StudioAbout – :: S H I F T U P ::
shiftup.co.kr
Second Eve Studio
Ironically, you're diving pretty deep into speculation there, yourself :P (but also, good point re: this potentially being about new hires)
My complaint is more structural (hence why I'd argue "practical or financial" doesn't matter when the result is the same when it comes to workforce access to goods). Just for context, I'm someone who thinks "professional philanthropists" are a social ill; I think high-profile philanthropy is used to prop up systems that parasites at the top benefit from, to prevent people from actually addressing the kind of income inequality that makes a more stable society impossible. The fact of the amount of resources spent on PR sharing how "magnanimous" the acts are should be a huge tell, re: intention. So my criticism re: the thread topic is through that lens.
Era is socialist confirmed, lol
I genuinely don't have a clue how you can arrive at this conclusion. I get the argument when it's tax-funded wage distributions, which is why you don't see the director of the FBI earning millions a year for example (despite having responsibilities similar to those of a Fortune 500 CEO).I'm someone who thinks the stark divide between pay for workers vs CEOs at many companies can be an actual injustice.
I'm pretty sure these would have been bought with company money. Like giveaways at Christmas parties etc.If someone did this for me in a game development workplace, both in terms of that person's income *and* special access to that volume of otherwise unavailable hardware, I'd have some pretty strong negative feelings about them, and how the company divides its earnings.
This is one of those things that sounds positive until you actually think about it.
Yeah, you're most likely correct.I would imagine it was directly through Sony. Seeing as they had them on their showcase and everything, was probably able to manage a deal to purchase units for the team directly.
I'm pretty sure these would have been bought with company money. Like giveaways at Christmas parties etc.
They can flip the PS5 and not get taxed. This is more value than a $500 Bonus for sure.I'd much rather get a 600$ bonus (or whatever he paid for them).
DamnProject EVE CEO spends $140k buying PS5’s for his workforce after the reveal
Hyung-Tae Kim celebrates the studio's reveal of the game by buying everyone Sony's latest consolewww.theloadout.com
"First reported by industry analyst Daniel Ahmad on Twitter, this news is one of the most wholesome CEO stories in quite some time and, shows how much Kim values each of his employees.
To put this generous move into context, a PS5 in South Korea costs 628,000 won (that's approximately $540), so Kim has just spent 162,280,000 won ($140,400) on equipping his workforce with new generation gaming machines."
Btw anyone curious this is what their Studio set up is like:
First Child StudioAbout – :: S H I F T U P ::
shiftup.co.kr
Second Eve Studio
wtf?????Project EVE CEO spends $140k buying PS5’s for his workforce after the reveal
Hyung-Tae Kim celebrates the studio's reveal of the game by buying everyone Sony's latest consolewww.theloadout.com
"First reported by industry analyst Daniel Ahmad on Twitter, this news is one of the most wholesome CEO stories in quite some time and, shows how much Kim values each of his employees.
To put this generous move into context, a PS5 in South Korea costs 628,000 won (that's approximately $540), so Kim has just spent 162,280,000 won ($140,400) on equipping his workforce with new generation gaming machines."
Btw anyone curious this is what their Studio set up is like:
First Child StudioAbout – :: S H I F T U P ::
shiftup.co.kr
Second Eve Studio
If someone did this for me in a game development workplace, both in terms of that person's income *and* special access to that volume of otherwise unavailable hardware, I'd have some pretty strong negative feelings about them, and how the company divides its earnings.
This is one of those things that sounds positive until you actually think about it.
Destiny Child is pretty big.
Mobile money:
Project EVE CEO spends $140k buying PS5’s for his workforce after the reveal
Hyung-Tae Kim celebrates the studio's reveal of the game by buying everyone Sony's latest consolewww.theloadout.com
"First reported by industry analyst Daniel Ahmad on Twitter, this news is one of the most wholesome CEO stories in quite some time and, shows how much Kim values each of his employees.
To put this generous move into context, a PS5 in South Korea costs 628,000 won (that's approximately $540), so Kim has just spent 162,280,000 won ($140,400) on equipping his workforce with new generation gaming machines."
Btw anyone curious this is what their Studio set up is like:
First Child StudioAbout – :: S H I F T U P ::
shiftup.co.kr
Second Eve Studio
They said one of the enemies was being "parasatized" in the trailer.
The connections keep coming.