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Shenmue III reviews
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Here is my review: http://www.gameblog.fr/tests/3554-shenmue-iii-ps4
7/10 Editor's Choice
And I will stand by it. I loved it warts and all and didn't want to put the controller down.
7/10 Editor's Choice
And I will stand by it. I loved it warts and all and didn't want to put the controller down.
Yeah I'm definitely missing the VF-styled combat from the first two games.
What's here is...not good.
Those "Greatest E3 of all time" statements about 2015 sure haven't aged well.
1 of the holy trinity releasing to poor reviews, the other broken at launch and the third not releasing at all.
1 of the holy trinity releasing to poor reviews, the other broken at launch and the third not releasing at all.
Shenmue was always a very very particular game.
A game people who never played the original talked of in legend. I honestly liked the slow and precise gameplay and large periods of just walking about exploring.
But for modern gamers it was always going to be a big ask.
A game people who never played the original talked of in legend. I honestly liked the slow and precise gameplay and large periods of just walking about exploring.
But for modern gamers it was always going to be a big ask.
Just glanced at Jeuxvideo who have been notoriously hard on the series. "constant need for money which is frustrating". Lol erm. This review reeks of them rushing the game. Spend 15 minutes collecting and selling herbs, go fishing for 20 minutes and you'll be set. If you're frustrated you don't have money in the game then you're not really doing stuff to make money or are just blowing it on dumb shit. It's also rare that you *need* much money at all really.
Pretty much. It's similar to how the Switch reveal received a very negative reception but is generally looked back fondly today due to the games and concept delivering.
The reviews that are coming out aren't even that negative. The scores are low, but they all basically state, "Acquired taste, only for Shenmue fans." Can't say I'm surprised.
Whoever it is you're referring to, he's probably too busy enjoying a new Shenmue game to be furious.
My thoughts exactly. I know he said this ahead of time (that it would be 40% by the end of pt3), and I'm not saying that's good or bad... Eh, nevermind. Yeah I am: it's fucking ludicrous. But hey, it is what it is. And it will definitely go down as one of the most bizarre development tales in the history of the medium.
Yeah, and to be honest I really love the idea of a shenmue defence with a dedicated crest.
Once again the "a 7 out of 10 can't be good it's TRASH" crowd dancing around the scores. Christ how I hate the 9=GOTY, <9 = Garbage review scale we have.
Those Review Excerts are vexing to read.
"Manages to Do exactly as intended!" - 5 / 10
"Perfectly captures the feel of the old games!" - 6 / 10
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Just feels like a stupid way to judge something. Especially in a world where many TRY to capture the classics, but fail due to forced attempts to appeal to other, expanded audiences. Or because the designers have just lost their way, or diminished in ability. The fact this game AVOIDS those obvious pitfalls, which would be forced on a product that was made just as a purely commercial product, sounds worthy of praise. Crowdfunding SHOULD be about providing the CROWD who FUNDED it with what they wanted. Not taking the money, and using it to make something divergent from the original.
Not saying the game needs to have 9s and 10s. Just saying those scores, and those words, don't gel to me. It's like they're fishing for "Accolade trailer" quotes, but not actually acclaiming the product in the end. Feels fake.
I'll rarely understand why I want a reviewer to try and bring my passionate hobby down to a layman's simple understanding. There's an audience for that, but I'm surely not it. I want them to give me the inside scoop on why something is doing what it does, and focus on it's strengths, if they exist. A perspective that can only be delivered by someone who adores the subject, and sees a product for what it is intending to do, not what they think it should be. But there seem to be so many more average nobody reviews, rather than professional tier fans doing review work. People put more weight on snarky backhanded insults than simple honest praise, and that never jives with me.
Ahhh well, it just makes the good ones stick out more, when you find them. But it's definitely a reason why I feel many Metacritic style aggregates are largely useless. There's so many plain, cynical perspectives just regurgitating the same uninspired ideas.
The interesting previews for this game make it sound as if it achieved many things that sound way above budget expectations. All the unique NPCs and Shops sound like the kind of things I look for in big budget games, but am normally disappointed to find missing. Sprawling procedurally generated open worlds often lack hand-crafted attention to detail. Shenmue III seems to aspire for that rare meticulous design style much more earnestly. Just knowing that has me quite a bit more pumped than I expected. Also the mentions about how doing things within the world actually have an effect (such as your delivery job actually making new things appear and change in the rest of the world) sound so much like that Dreamcast level love that made the systems games so hard to forget.
"Manages to Do exactly as intended!" - 5 / 10
"Perfectly captures the feel of the old games!" - 6 / 10
…..
Just feels like a stupid way to judge something. Especially in a world where many TRY to capture the classics, but fail due to forced attempts to appeal to other, expanded audiences. Or because the designers have just lost their way, or diminished in ability. The fact this game AVOIDS those obvious pitfalls, which would be forced on a product that was made just as a purely commercial product, sounds worthy of praise. Crowdfunding SHOULD be about providing the CROWD who FUNDED it with what they wanted. Not taking the money, and using it to make something divergent from the original.
Not saying the game needs to have 9s and 10s. Just saying those scores, and those words, don't gel to me. It's like they're fishing for "Accolade trailer" quotes, but not actually acclaiming the product in the end. Feels fake.
I'll rarely understand why I want a reviewer to try and bring my passionate hobby down to a layman's simple understanding. There's an audience for that, but I'm surely not it. I want them to give me the inside scoop on why something is doing what it does, and focus on it's strengths, if they exist. A perspective that can only be delivered by someone who adores the subject, and sees a product for what it is intending to do, not what they think it should be. But there seem to be so many more average nobody reviews, rather than professional tier fans doing review work. People put more weight on snarky backhanded insults than simple honest praise, and that never jives with me.
Ahhh well, it just makes the good ones stick out more, when you find them. But it's definitely a reason why I feel many Metacritic style aggregates are largely useless. There's so many plain, cynical perspectives just regurgitating the same uninspired ideas.
The interesting previews for this game make it sound as if it achieved many things that sound way above budget expectations. All the unique NPCs and Shops sound like the kind of things I look for in big budget games, but am normally disappointed to find missing. Sprawling procedurally generated open worlds often lack hand-crafted attention to detail. Shenmue III seems to aspire for that rare meticulous design style much more earnestly. Just knowing that has me quite a bit more pumped than I expected. Also the mentions about how doing things within the world actually have an effect (such as your delivery job actually making new things appear and change in the rest of the world) sound so much like that Dreamcast level love that made the systems games so hard to forget.
I don't know if this counts towards Metacritic, but can we at least get it added to the OP? Birdseye
That review was already posted earlier in the thread, but it seems that OP glossed over it for reasons.
I never heard of them but I haven't heard of Japanpop either. So maybe it's glossed over for narrative reasons
That's my impression so far. I'm fine with that, but it's a bit surprising Yu Suzuki didn't try to make it a bit more mainstream.
Huh? FF7 Remake hasn't been released yet.
And Horizon debuted at that conference as well.
I helped revive a series for Penny Arcade. They wanted to do 2 more games. I wanted to combine the 2 planned games into 1 since I thought that fans would want the conclusion right away and because if the 1st new game didn't do well, I didn't want to be on the hook for making a second one that would probably do worse. In the end, we made the 2 games, the first one sold okay, the second one sold a little worse, and that was that.
I feel like both sides of the story ending argument have merit and discounting the other side as not true fans is non-productive and gatekeepery. Yes, rushing through to an ending isn't very like Shenmue. On the other hand, wanting a conclusion to a saga that started 2 decades ago isn't ridiculous either, especially when there's no guarantee whether or not a 4th game will even get financed or just how many more games Suzuki is planning on.
I feel like both sides of the story ending argument have merit and discounting the other side as not true fans is non-productive and gatekeepery. Yes, rushing through to an ending isn't very like Shenmue. On the other hand, wanting a conclusion to a saga that started 2 decades ago isn't ridiculous either, especially when there's no guarantee whether or not a 4th game will even get financed or just how many more games Suzuki is planning on.
Because they made a new game in 2019 rather remastering an old one.
They're aging just fine.
Last Guardian turned out to be an amazing game for a lot of Team ICO fans, and Shenmue III is incredibly faithful to previous games in the series.
Shenmue is clearly not for me or you, so why rain on this parade?
Yes this game is archaic and yes this is exactly why I love it.
The game isn't modernized at all. Which is a relief to me. Will it gather some low scores? Probably. Don't forget even Shenmue 1 was already slammed here and there for being a boring slog. Shenmue 3 is no different, 18 years later.
The game isn't modernized at all. Which is a relief to me. Will it gather some low scores? Probably. Don't forget even Shenmue 1 was already slammed here and there for being a boring slog. Shenmue 3 is no different, 18 years later.
So you're not far enough to judge. Dude, the beginning of both I and II are slow. Some fans like to paint Shenmue II as a fast-paced adventure but it takes ages to get going. You're stuck airing out books for like 4 days, and the game doesn't actually pick up pace until you meet Ren.
This actually annoys me. Why are the expectations for Shenmue so high? Countless JRPGs come and go where characters stand in one spot the entire game, everything's in text bubbles, faces barely animate etc. but Shenmue comes along and gets picked apart because its hundreds of fully-voiced NPCs have "stiff necks" or whatever. It's dumb.
This is simply not true. Some people put the originals on a pedestal and think only AAA will do. A lot of the French coverage for the game, since the very first previews, have had this mentality. They want a "true" hundred million dollar follow-up, which was never going to happen.
It's this game's "weapons break". It is necessary to ensure the player engages with other systems, namely the economy. If you didn't have to buy food you wouldn't have to make money, which means you could completely ignore the game's money-making endeavors until it arbitrarily forces you into them. This was a problem in Shenmue II.
It shouldn't.
The originals combat wasn't good either.
Archaic? I wish it were a strict template copy of Shenmue II. Instead they've thrown in numerous modern features of which just about all have fallen flat on their face and made the game less fun. They've even gone backwards and nixed stuff found in the first two games like dialogue/cutscene skipping, NPCs leading you around, and some extremely drawn out roundabout system of turning gambling wins into money. This game is easily worse than its predecessors.
I never had an issue with airing out books. I do have an issue with being stuck in a town the size of sekigahara and not being allowed to fully explore unless the game dictates it.
It's a speed up version of VF. VF is a counter game and combat are slow, I think Yu choose it to make it more like a kung fu action. So I'm not suprised that it caries the legacy of the previous..
It's actually quite incredible that this game manages to have basically the same UI as One Finger Death Punch.
I do get the feeling that some people only play the latest expensive AAA production.
Or, and this is a long shot, they get it and don't like what they got.
Don't say that, AAA production had nothing to do with that, Shenmue 1 and 2 where AAA production. Shenmue 3 just stick to it DNA.
And Shenmue has been made for a fraction of the budget of a AAA game in 2019. Quite frankly what they've made with the budget they had is impressive.
From everything I've seen from the game, and as someone who enjoyed 1 and 2, 3 is looking like everything I wanted it to be.
- Continuation of the story, with all the same faults
- Crazy bad English VA that has super funny moments to sit through. I'm amazed precisely tone is retained to the original
- The same expansive in depth kind of world to explore, with all kinds of small aspects to flavour the world in the way Shenmue games have done
I'm confident I'll enjoy it as much if not more than the previous games.
For new folk, this will either click with them in the same way, or they just can't find it enjoyable.
Pretty much the same as Shenmue 1 and 2 then.
- Continuation of the story, with all the same faults
- Crazy bad English VA that has super funny moments to sit through. I'm amazed precisely tone is retained to the original
- The same expansive in depth kind of world to explore, with all kinds of small aspects to flavour the world in the way Shenmue games have done
I'm confident I'll enjoy it as much if not more than the previous games.
For new folk, this will either click with them in the same way, or they just can't find it enjoyable.
Pretty much the same as Shenmue 1 and 2 then.
After waiting for 18 years i was always going to play this, reviews be damned and if the early 50-70 reviews are indicative of the final score i am fine with that, at least it doesn't seem to be a raging dumpster fire, from the previews and reviews i have read it seems a lot like the old games, a bit like the game has been stuck in time, and that's kinda what i want from it.
I was replying to people critizising Shenmue 3 mostly play AAA games... I agree with you but I don't think fans are not happy because it's not AAA. My point was 1 and 2 were AAA people didn't even bother, they won't bother today. Enjoy the game and it's all that matter.
This this this !!!!... Reviewers have no issues rating AA games 9s and 10s with poor animation,PS2 graphics,badly voiced lines..etc. But here suddenly Shenmue is held to AAA standards when its a kickstarter game.