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Shenmue III is timed exclusive to Epic Games Store, backers PC code redeemed on EGS & no refund (See Threadmark) [READ STAFF POSTS BEFORE POSTING]
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Epic really could have been an positive prescence in the PC gaming space.
If they competed with Steam by offering better features and prices.
But no, they continually try to bully and moneyhat their way to the top of the pile all the while offering less than the competition.
If they competed with Steam by offering better features and prices.
But no, they continually try to bully and moneyhat their way to the top of the pile all the while offering less than the competition.
I mean no tho they literally selected PC, and you had options between PC or STEAM Physical Discs.
They very much let you pick steam and even added an upgrade to go to a PC version of the game to kickstarter.
This is massive horseshit.
Man, Epic could have done so much interesting stuff with their PC storefront (funding exclusive graphical PC showcases, bringing obscure JP games and paying for translations, Indie jams with budget as winning prize).
But instead we got ramming endless cash down publishers' throats.
I'm convinced the Yakuza series is Nagoshi's autobiography.
I was thinking of getting some of 120 dollars back by selling the whole pack for like 100 or something.
yea with their lack of features, and shadiness is why I didn't bother getting EGS, but after this, I don't see myself installing ever.
The ideal solution would be for them to provide backers with Steam keys, as promised.
Then, failing that, refunds, which I believe they're legally and morally obligated to provide.
Changing my platform is basically last resort. I don't want or need a second PS4 copy. But at least I'd be able to sell or give it away. Wouldn't be a complete waste.
I don't speak Japanese and I know Google translate isn't always entirely accurate, but...there appears to be nothing in this article to support what this tweet is implying. That's just not what the article is saying at all?
Seems like wrongful editorializing on behalf of whoever that Twitter person is.
Then, failing that, refunds, which I believe they're legally and morally obligated to provide.
Changing my platform is basically last resort. I don't want or need a second PS4 copy. But at least I'd be able to sell or give it away. Wouldn't be a complete waste.
I don't speak Japanese and I know Google translate isn't always entirely accurate, but...there appears to be nothing in this article to support what this tweet is implying. That's just not what the article is saying at all?
Seems like wrongful editorializing on behalf of whoever that Twitter person is.
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Epic Store exclusive? Meh whatever, I personally think that's a poor business decision but it'll be up to the consumer to decide whether they wanna buy the game on PC or not.
No refunds, however, is a shit move, especially after it was advertised as a Steam release. Makes me glad that I didn't back the Kickstarter, and I hope PC gamers boycott the game as a result.
No refunds, however, is a shit move, especially after it was advertised as a Steam release. Makes me glad that I didn't back the Kickstarter, and I hope PC gamers boycott the game as a result.
Hear, hear
Competition is good when you're trying to get better, not by making others worse.
Every backer was given a survey to take, and Steam digital download was an option. I looked up my survey answer yesterday, and it's still selected on Steam digital download.
I don't really see grounds for a refund if they do somehow provide Steam Keys, but I think the PR damage is irreparable regardless.
And it's not even a disc, it's a download code now. The worst possible scam.
My motivation is different.
i want to reduce the chance anyone giving Ys a cent while promoting the game.
Why do you want to promote a game but hurt the developer's ability to make another game in the same series?
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It wasn't "advertised" as a steam copy from the start of the KS to the end of the KS (30 days). Yes, surveys and updates stated steam but I bet those are under "subject to change". Purely speaking from a legal standpoint.
EDIT: Understood that wrong.
I dunno why you're going out of your way doing this... lol
Probably will do the same and just rebuy when it's on Steam. I've waited this long, I can wait a bit longer.
Purposefully chose PC so it can be part of the massive library of games I own. Having to install the Epic launcher just so I could access this one game messes with my OCD way too much. I'd like to think the devs will do us a solid and still give us Steam keys even when it's not available to buy on Steam, but it looks like we'll be done dirty.
The Kickstarter itself didn't explicitly mention Steam, but the slacker backer campaign did.
I put $100 into a physical PS4 version in 2015, then when I was filling out my backer survey I paid an extra $29 to get a Steam key. They were explicit that it was a Steam key that I was paying $29 for.
They were happily taking people's money, promoting it as a Steam game until the very end of the crowdfunding campaign (outside of Kickstarter) and beyond.
Oh I meant if they fail to provide Steam keys, the second best solution would be if they granted refunds.
They've basically said they won't do either, but I reckon there's still time for things to change, even if it's doubtful.
glad i didn't have a gaming pc during the kickstarter so picked the ps4 version. sucks for people who chose pc.
I think it's the best way to not feel screwed, because that's the part that bites the most. You get a bit or all of your money back and person buys it off of you instead new in a store.
I have a feeling Epic has their hands tied with regard to providing Steam Keys. That's not to say Deep Silver/Ys Net are innocent victims of Epic. Now, if Epic wants to be the 'good guy,' they'd better give them this chance to at least right what they did to their backers.
This right here. They're basically making sure less people will play the game now.
Exactly. I paid for a physical disc. It said so right there. Now it's a download code. Absolutely grounds for a refund. Fuckery at it's finest.
I think there is a good chance that they at least provide the steam keys to the backer. The last "official update" we got was the addition to the FAQ (steam in the future) so there seems to be something going on in relation to the backlash. I guess it's also tricky as this is probably an exchange between Offices in Japan, Europe and US so it will take some time to get more info and clarifications...
Ditto. I already hate using battlenet and origins and I said fuck outta here with Uplay.
Shenmue will live with that Epic money backing them.
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The Epic PC exclusive is not my only issue because I pledged twice.
Ys already totalled my PS4 copy (First pledge) by dictating my game region based on my shipping address. Now my second pledge, a PC hard copy turned to a coaster with a Epic voucher code.
Seems like Ys is out for my blood..
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People just need to realize that Epic is doing all of this to stop Steam from being "anti-competitive"...
...by buying up games and making them exclusive to only one platform and not having any competition for sales
Wait... (Epic are hypocrites is the moral of this story)
...by buying up games and making them exclusive to only one platform and not having any competition for sales
Wait... (Epic are hypocrites is the moral of this story)
Its BS. I dont like the janky Epic storefront and it wasnt what I agreed to. They lied period. I will charge the fucker back. I dont care.
According to your narrative (and all who proclaim the epic deal is to finish the product), Ys needed all this to deliver Shenmue III
1. A prominent showing on Sony's stage before the Kickstarter
2. A Kickstarter that got three times the initial goal.
3. A big Publisher who funded them after the Kickstarter
4. Millions of Dollars from the Epic Exclusive Deal.
For Shenmue IV:
1. could happen.
2. The Kickstarter bridge is completely burned. Even if they have some hardcore fans left and want to make a Kickstarter for Shenmue IV, why would Kickstarter themselves allow this company to fuck them over again?
4. Epic won't still throw away money in 3 to 5 years (possible Shenmue IV release window). If they still need to secure Exclusives in 3 to 5 years, their store has failed.
and lastly 3. Why should Deep Silver or any other Publisher finance another game from this Studio if (according to the narrative) it could only be made with 2 additional revenue Streams that are not available anymore?
Shenmue IV will not happen.
If it does end up being a timed exclusive, but backers don't get their steam keys on release day, then that's just spitting in the face of the people who supported them.
So what is the difference between the 29$ digital version, and the now 60$ PC physical edition, which is a box with an EPIC Store Key in it?
That feels like another bait and switch here.
That feels like another bait and switch here.
"Hey thanks for helping us make this work, but please go back to the end of the line."
Oof. If you needed the European version I'd tell you to ship the game to me and then I'd ship it to you, but if you need the NA version then nothing I can do, but someone from NA would probably volunteer if you ask around the forum.
But isn't the PS4 region free anyway?
I don't understand how people who work for places like these stick around. People who grew up playing awesome games and hoping to one day be in the credits of one. I wouldn't be able to do work under such conditions just for a paycheck. I suppose the alternative is to starve?
It seems like nobody is genuine anymore. It's just people who do X to get Y, where Y is a paycheck. As opposed to following your passion and doing what you feel is right/good for the world.
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