Backers could get that but I guess Deep Silver will do a retail release.
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Shenmue III - ‘Ryo & Master’ Trailer [MAGIC 2019]
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Backers could get that but I guess Deep Silver will do a retail release.
People can whine about animations. That's the only thing left to. The game is shaping up amazingly. From voice acting to characters and visuals. It's amazing.
(Btw do you know if we're going to get the full trailer soon ? As if I remember right, this is the short version)
Absolutely Ghost.
To be honest, i am very sketchy on what went on behind closed doors. I have not seen the journalists trailer either, but i have heard conflicting reports. there is a 10 minute story going around that i did not hear. From what i heard, there is an extended trailer with 2 added minutes? The again, 2 could have been 10 in the persons accent so who knows. To me, it sounded like Gamescom again, which would make sense. Either way, there will be more promotion for this game, and as far as i know, August 27th is still very much locked in, and i have no reason to doubt it.
The strange thing is that this is one of the few games where each time they've showed something it's clearly improved compared to earlier showings. Yet people still complain. The trailer is amazing and the game will surely be too. Can't wait to play it in August!
And if they didn't show anything this whole time then people would claim it's vaporware.
In doing a project through kickstarter, you really put yourself in an unwinnable situation when it comes to marketing.
Yep.
It's nice to see some honest game development for once instead of deception.
Graphics are looking pleasant enough. Love how mysterious the masters were in Shenmue 2 like that blind one you have to fight in one of the intimidating tall building of Kowloon. I wonder how they will live up to them.
This looks honestly pretty great given the budget. That kind of budget was only enough to fund some very few titles even back in 2009. And I think the graphics look pretty good considering that. It's a fair few years outdated yes, but not 13 years or something like that
I've been intentionally avoiding looking at media for this, but I did watch this video and was really pleasantly surprised. It really does look like advancements in tech are completely making up for the budgetary gap and them some.
If this manages to make fans of the original games happy then it'll be a success, other crowdfunding projects that meant to trigger our nostalgia weren't even able to do that much. *cough* Mighty No 9 *cough*
Never played a Shenmue game but the trailer looks pretty good.
Never played a Shenmue game but the trailer looks pretty good.
I think it looks very good for a low-budget game. You have to ask yourself, could Shenmue III look like this on Dreamcast, or even the OG XBOX, at 480p resolution?
Exactly right, tech is catching up to the concept and it is even more faithful.
Ryo 3D model is ok but Pai isn't at all. And those robot animations for today standards are very bad to watch. Lacks of facial animations with a strong style like that is just more amplified. If they want to make a real come back of a game that set a standard at the time, they shouldn't launch it till ready. Watching that trailer is clear that they don't have enough people to work on such big project.
Just like how the first time the showed off the faces in the game, they weren't complete because they were obviously lacking rigging, the fighting game portion is similarly incomplete. They don't show any move transitions at all, all the cuts in the fighting game portion are timed to avoid showing the lack of move transitions except for one point in the middle, where you can see two moves just butt up against each other with no transitions. So calling the combat, "robot animations" isn't correct when it's obvious they're going to become more fluid as time goes on. I very, very much doubt the father of 3D fighting games would ship a fighting game portion without any move transitions. those have been a thing since VF1.
The release date is set for August 27 of this year. Can they add new body/facial animations and do all those changes before launch? This trailer what build shows? They still have like 4 months, I highly doubt they can delivery so many changes in such short time.
That's literally the benefit of Agile software development that Yu Suzuki pioneered. It allows constant iteration and modularity. What you "highly doubt" is literally the purpose of said type of software development.
It depends what you mean by that. Can they rip out what they have and start over? Absolutely not and they don't need to. Could they refine and smooth out what's there now? I think they can.
For example: the opening scene where the big guy mocks Ryo appears at first glance like it's missing animations because his mouth doesn't close on two of his words, giving off the impression that those two facial animations are missing in the scene. Upon further inspection though, you'll notice that character's tongue moves for some syllables at the start of his sentence, instead of his mouth. While he's talking, the camera shifts to an angle where you can no longer see his tongue, which gives off the appearance of no facial animation for those 2 syllables later in the sentence. They can rectify this by shifting the camera angle and possibly tilting the big guy's head down a bit to properly capture all his speaking animations.
Those sorts of adjustments can be expected. There's a documentary floating out there that captured Yu Suzuki's directorial methods during Shenmue 1. Devs would bring him a scene or character animation, he would review and tell them several minute, detailed changes to make for it to fit better in the game. I suspect he still does that today with his current team, meaning over the next few months he can be instruct them on how to make animations flow better in scene. All of this falls into the refinement process utilized by the Agile project management methodology, which we know this game is being developed under. Refinements will be made until the cut off point to hit release for August 27th.
Who's to say they haven't already added or changed things from what they've shown? Do you think they just scribbled together the trailer the night before using what they currently had or perhaps worked on it in advance? Maybe a few weeks or even a month ago? Which scenario is more likely?
All the footage we've been shown through the development cycle has been several months behind the actual date it was revealed. Based on this precedent, this new trailer could very well be "old" as well.
The Drunken Master with the bottle who was teaching the technique to Ryo, I thought he was the version of Shun here. Shenmue 2's boss fighters seemed like versions of Sarah, Wolf etc, although not visually identical.
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45 developers at Ys Net. There are contributions from partner studios like Neilo, and art outsourcing teams like Lakshya to help fulfill the 500+ NPCs, but Ys Net is the core studio.
Woah, 45? That seems rather large, honestly, based on what others have been suggesting. Wondering what Neilo is actually handling. Where'd you find that figure?
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45 was the figure listed in a slide last year for THQ Nordic's markets day event for shareholders or something.
45 is about medium size from what I understand, though maybe on the smaller end.
Pretty surreal that provided no delays...we are only months away.
There are some small bits of information in that article that I haven't seen anywhere yet. They mention that the camera can move in 360 degrees, so you won't always be looking at Ryo's back anymore, and you can buy clothes and change Ryo's outfit whenever you want. And I don't know if it means individually or combined, but he says that Bailu and Chobu are about as big as Hong Kong from Shenmue II.
The Shenmue I wished for as a fan of the original series cannot be made under today's circumstances it seems. The first game was bleeding edge, this definitely ain't.
The game is not looking bad though - in fact I think it is pretty enough to get a pass - and it's Suzuki's creation so if he is ok with it...
The game is not looking bad though - in fact I think it is pretty enough to get a pass - and it's Suzuki's creation so if he is ok with it...
Hey ERA. I got to sit down with Suzuki and saw about 15 minutes of gameplay (not live, pre-recorded, but only recorded a few days prior) at MAGIC. I wrote a thing about it: https://www.vg247.com/2019/03/12/shenmue-3-preview-gameplay/
I think it looks really cool, tbh, so long as you can accept the budget/style for what it is.
I think it looks really cool, tbh, so long as you can accept the budget/style for what it is.
Thanks. Interesting write up. Disappointed the animation doesn't seem to be much better in your extended trailer, but it's also heartening to hear there's an actual game out there and that it actually looks good!
I think that's the major takeaway here.
It's maybe not what some were expecting, but it's definitely Shenmue 3, can't argue that.
Why hasn't Sony hosted this trailer on its Youtube channel yet. Every little helps and videos on the PlayStation channel tend to get a lot of views. It should've happened by now.
Looks really bad to me. I have friends that are very excited for this so I hope it turns out well.
Nice write up. It's kind of disappointing to hear that Ryo's walking animation is still super stiff. I was hoping that aspect would be modernized a bit with some better animation. Everything else is shaping up though.
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Only in the same way they always where in 1 and 2, characters that look or fight similar to someone in VF. Not the actual character. Shenmue was originally Virtua Fighter RPG before they rebranded it as a new IP.