Well, there it is. It's always easier to handwave issues that doesn't impact you.
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Shenmue 3 Kickstarter will honor refunds and offers Steam keys with a one-year delay [See Staff Post]
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Well, there it is. It's always easier to handwave issues that doesn't impact you.
Hmmm...pearl clutching, right.
I'd love to deal with you as a corp. You promise something to your investors, deliver something else that isn't remotely what was promised, yet the consumer eat the shit and say thanks and will attack unsatisfied customers as pearl clutchers.
"Excellent!"
In other news...
"We have in effect been able to achieve a scale greater than that of Shenmue II and bring the fun of an "open world" to life."
HYPE!!! HYPE!!! HYPE!!!
"We have in effect been able to achieve a scale greater than that of Shenmue II and bring the fun of an "open world" to life."
HYPE!!! HYPE!!! HYPE!!!
Who said it was just adult men? There's more than a fair share of females also upset over this shit. Please stop this.
Yeah, this
yeah, this is great news. Believe it or not, there was a rumor on a Chinese game site that the game was only three hours long!
Well, at least now refunds are an option for people who feel strongly about the PC version.
This whole approach by Epic is so counterproductive. At best it gets them a bit more inflated account numbers from people who begrudgingly install their client just for the time necessary to play the game and uninstall it asap and never to touch it again.
Also, hopefully the Kickstarter PC version gets a few extras to justify tier price difference for the backers who still choose to go forward with the PC physical.
With all this said I'm a backer at a very high tier and I'm still excited for the game. I just can't blame those who feel sour with all this mess.
This whole approach by Epic is so counterproductive. At best it gets them a bit more inflated account numbers from people who begrudgingly install their client just for the time necessary to play the game and uninstall it asap and never to touch it again.
Also, hopefully the Kickstarter PC version gets a few extras to justify tier price difference for the backers who still choose to go forward with the PC physical.
With all this said I'm a backer at a very high tier and I'm still excited for the game. I just can't blame those who feel sour with all this mess.
HYPE!!
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Rockstar Social Club sure takes up a lot of space.
I'm aware of these 2 games and I'm honestly just curious. These are two of the biggest games ever made and arguably two of the best of the last decade so I'm not surprised they had releases like this.
Is there a database or list of physical PC games released over the last few years that include the full game on the disk? I've been trying to find something like that but can't find anything. Most physical PC games I find either require a partial download or something like that so I'm genuinely curious to see what PC games had full game on disk releases.
You know YS Net did the right thing when not getting the game on-disc is the now the hot issue. At least they've addressed it and you can get a refund if you don't like it. I think that's fair.
They sold the possibility of a future release on getting some money in on the current one. Even if the game did come out implementing stretch goals it didn't reach thanks to that Epic money, hope it was worth it to sully the name of the franchise and potentially the chance of another game in the series.
I hope people in the
I know! I can't wait, only 4 more months!
I know! I can't wait, only 4 more months!
When will people learn that ResetERA doesn't speak for the general populace? Remember how Day's Gone was clearly going to flop because "no one" on here was interested?
Could it flop? Sure! It's ridiculous to write it off already. I'm not defending this take, but there are tons of people out there going, "so what, it's just a different launcher." Again, not defending it, but I've read that a ton when looking at comments and articles on different sites.
Majority of the stuff (if not all) released by Limited Run, iam8bit and any other niche companies releasing digital-only titles on physical media.
Know one of the reasons people buy those games? Because when the online stores have shutdown and the consoles are gathering dust, their games will still work offline thanks to the game being entirely on the media. But good luck with that happening for Shenmue 3 on PC.
i would have thought this thread to be much more celebratory on the news of both refund and Steam keys.
Being an unsatisfied customer has nothing to do with being laughed at because they think a launcher on disc is a new development brought to PC gaming in 2019 by EGS.
The problem is that you're mixing actual delivery promise made to backers versus a standard with nowadays retail PC releases.
The problem is that if you specifically promise that you will deliver disc that won't simply have a download launcher in those, under normal circumstances, you shouldn't deliver a disc that will simply have a download launcher in those. They haven't failed their promise because of the standards in PC game deliveries changed, it was the same five years ago. It changed because EPIC forced its launcher in those physical releases.
Am I clear or do I need to be clearer?
Never, ever underestimate hardcore Shenmue fans. We're all prepared to buy like 3 copies of the game.
But if you do that, another person will *probably* create that Epic account and increase its userbase.
You should ensure you sell it to someone who does not intend to play the game whatsoever. They will feel good because they could play it but are boycotting Epic instead.
This doesn't really matter to me since I was always going to play this on the PS4 but man, this is such a silly mess. Good that they're offering refunds but it's still a stupid situation to be in, I hope Epic's money has been worth it for Ys Net because that's a fine way to burn all the goodwill you could have had.
the fact you think people are acting like launchers on disc is a new thing is really showing how much of a fucking idiot you are, when the entire point has been about what they promised versus what is being delivered
This was VERY poorly handle. Offers to change the codes or ask for refunds should have been there alongside the announcement of the EPIC store shit.
This really hurts the game's image. It will now be associated with THIS way more than anything the game provides itself. And will also color any future projects.
I'll be changing my code for a PS4 digital one... you guys will get ShenMue 3 but i really hope you weren't expecting a Shen Mue 4.....
This really hurts the game's image. It will now be associated with THIS way more than anything the game provides itself. And will also color any future projects.
I'll be changing my code for a PS4 digital one... you guys will get ShenMue 3 but i really hope you weren't expecting a Shen Mue 4.....
Actually im comparing it to 2009 physical releases.
i get it. If not having the data on disc is a deal breaker, or any other reason is a deal breaker, take the refund.
I respect your decision. Nothing would prevent me from playing this game truthfully - but I understand where you are coming from.
At this point I'm just waiting with bated breath for the Limited Run collector's edition to become available so that I can preorder that! I've been tempted to just order the EU version so that I don't miss it lol
What do you mean? They continue to improve the game and it looks great. Deep Silver clearly doesn't care, but they don't care about their actual properties any more than this (see Metro EGS deal). YsNet and Yu Suzuki are very dedicated to making this the best game possible. The reason they even accepted Deep Silver as a partner was to get more money to make the game better.
So the difference between these two tiers is that the 60$ tier gives you a CD containing the epic game store!? 🤣
I guess this proves that EGS is at least worth about 30$ 😉
Yeah... This is bullshit.
I'm not even a big fan, barely played the first two, but I backed this... And I'm a little pissed about how this has been handled. Thank God Bloodstained is awesome, otherwise I would forever stay away from KS games from here on out.
Mmm, don't exaggerate, not everyone here thinks like that. A previous poster considered the possibility that, perhaps, Japan might not be against EGS. Direct quote (the bolding is mine):
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Shenmue has a long a proud history of changing platform exclusivity at the last moment. I still remember the impotent rage displayed when Shenmue 2 was announced to be an Xbox exclusive. The rage this time is even more hilarious since you don't have to buy an entirely new console to play the game, but merely use a different form of DRM. Never change internet, never change.
I find it really disrespectful that people are saying things like "I'm sorry for you Shenmue fans". I'm an adult and make the choices I make. Your platitudes don't make me feel any better. They are condescending more than anything.
For sure. Suzuki needs a lot of things. A publisher that will fund his creativity, like Sega did it their golden age.
He doesn't need this mess with publishing.
PS4 people haven't really been screwed over in this situation.
Okay thank you.
The posts responding to Tart Toters post about how the difference in the tier pricing between digital/physical sure come across like that to me.
They didn't do anything wrong to PS4 backers. PC players who are upset can get their money back. Happy days.
I anticipate they'll refund backers either the $29 for a digital version or $60 for the physical version, and then potentially the $80 (extra in game content tier) and $100 (trial version) levels as well, but no more as anything additional was for physical goods or in-game content created especially for you.
Yes, the posts laughing at "pay an extra $30 for what will turn out to be a coaster and a cheap plastic case in four years" sure come across as "woah i've never seen this strange launcher-only phenomenon before".
Hopefully they will refund the "eat access" on Steam portion either. I paid quite a bit just to have that. Meh, going to refund and done with this project.
Even if the data was on disc it would still be a coaster in a cheap plastic case at the time of release let alone in four years so when i see people shocked that its a launcher code on a disc it comes across like its the first time theyve encountered such a thing.
