This is easily the best representation of the new gameplay. Better arranged and put into one video to watch all at once.
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Shenmue 3 Gameplay E3
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This is easily the best representation of the new gameplay. Better arranged and put into one video to watch all at once.
Originally Shenmue was planned for the Sega Saturn as Virtua Fighter RPG. Ryo was suppose to be Akira from Virtua Fighter.
Because of the smaller CD ROM storage size, it was initially planed to have 10 parts. But when it was moved to the Sega Dreamcast, the game was cut down to 5 chapters. The Dreamcast GDROM's hold 1GB of data instead of 512MB's per CD. I think Yu Suzuki said that 5 games would be ideal, but he can also work with 4. Shenmue III was never meant to be the ending. Not even during the Sony 2015 pitch video.
Originally Shenmue was planned for the Sega Saturn as Virtua Fighter RPG. Ryo was suppose to be Akira from Virtua Fighter.
Because of the smaller CD ROM storage size, it was initially planed to have 10 parts. But when it was moved to the Sega Dreamcast, the game was cut down to 5 chapters. The Dreamcast GDROM's hold 1GB of data instead of 512MB's per CD. I think Yu Suzuki said that 5 games would be ideal, but he can also work with 4. Shenmue III was never meant to be the ending. Not even during the Sony 2015 pitch video.
He looks like Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakusho in a couple of these.
I really enjoy both series, but Yakuza is verrrry far from a 'poor man's Shenmue'. I think the comparisons really put people off.
Think Yakuza meets Life is Strange is the best way I have been able to put it. Lots of focus on slow deliberate character moments, exploration of a smaller area and interacting with that area to search for clues.
Just throw in the fight scenes from Yakuza and set it in the Far East and you get the vibe.
There are some fans on the team, notably KidNocon - a Korean Shenmue fan who did some location recreations in UE3 and UE4. He's on the environment team. There might be a few more, but he's the most recognisable example.
Otherwise the team is made out of AM2 alumni, various freelancers, permanent staff at YsNet, people at partner studios like Neilo, outsourcing companies, etc. The main team at YsNet is about 45 people.
I like both series, but Shenmue came out at the later stages of my wide-eyed gaming adolescence so it's managed to grow in my heart over the years. Shenmue 2 also brought me to tears; mostly because I knew Shenmue 3 would never exist. Age and a decline in interest in gaming has probably made me a little more critical of Shenmue 3 than i should be, but I still think this is starting to capture the essence of Shenmue. The game can't be judged until we get into the story, in my opinion. I've always loved the story, even if it's told a little stiffly.
Now, if you're a Yakuza fan, imagine if Yakuza 1 had been the only entry in the series for 15+ years because it flopped horribly in the states and featured a horrible English dub, except this dub cost millions because they hired Hollywood talent for some misguided reason. Nagoshi pops up and says he'll make you a new Yakuza but you need to help him because Sega won't back him. He starts releasing footage and it looks a whole lot like Yakuza 1 but with a slightly new coat of paint. He had a choice: make a sequel that's totally modern but lacking in the spirit of Yakuza 1, or make a Yakuza game. Honestly, that's all Yakuza was for several years, except Nagoshi got his chance to keep refining the formula and making the best Yakuza experience possible. He didn't have to wait 15 years to meet his fans' expectations.
Shenmue 3 is a game for Shenmue fans. Obviously the series will live and die on sales, so I hope there's enough here to capture a new audience, but I give Suzuki credit for making the most Shenmue Shenmue 3 possible. That's what the fans have wanted for nearly two decades. Is a game about a kind young boy traveling to the Chinese countryside as exciting about a game where you're in the Japanese criminal underground? Well... that's up to you. What Shenmue lacks in excitement it makes up for in soul and spirit. This is a series that reflects the blood, sweat and tears of a tireless developer.
Now, if you're a Yakuza fan, imagine if Yakuza 1 had been the only entry in the series for 15+ years because it flopped horribly in the states and featured a horrible English dub, except this dub cost millions because they hired Hollywood talent for some misguided reason. Nagoshi pops up and says he'll make you a new Yakuza but you need to help him because Sega won't back him. He starts releasing footage and it looks a whole lot like Yakuza 1 but with a slightly new coat of paint. He had a choice: make a sequel that's totally modern but lacking in the spirit of Yakuza 1, or make a Yakuza game. Honestly, that's all Yakuza was for several years, except Nagoshi got his chance to keep refining the formula and making the best Yakuza experience possible. He didn't have to wait 15 years to meet his fans' expectations.
Shenmue 3 is a game for Shenmue fans. Obviously the series will live and die on sales, so I hope there's enough here to capture a new audience, but I give Suzuki credit for making the most Shenmue Shenmue 3 possible. That's what the fans have wanted for nearly two decades. Is a game about a kind young boy traveling to the Chinese countryside as exciting about a game where you're in the Japanese criminal underground? Well... that's up to you. What Shenmue lacks in excitement it makes up for in soul and spirit. This is a series that reflects the blood, sweat and tears of a tireless developer.
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An interesting take. Especially from the poster I remember saying the following about Crackdown 3.…..
Cool. Glad to see you're keeping a dossier on people. You're not going to debate us into thinking Shenmue is shit, so why bother?
Lmao come on. This is completely disingenuous. Isn't Sumo a 500+ person studio with millions behind it? Crackdown 3 was even published by Microsoft.
How is it even remotely close to compare expectations for a Crackdown game and Shenmue 3 which has essentially been made by an indie studio and funded mostly by Kickstarter? Like what?
Also, based on the IGN Japan article, Shenmue 3 has tons of improvements and additions compared to Shenmue 1 + 2. Everyone's stuck on the way Shenmue 3 looks, but it sounds like they really redesigned nearly every aspect of the game. Crackdown 3 seemed like a step backwards in nearly every way from what I could tell (without ever playing it).
Yakuza and Shenmue fall into completely different genres, when you break both games down to their core elements.
Yaskuza is a beat 'em up RPG, it really is like a PS2 era update on older 8bit games like River City Random. It's all about fighting groups of enemies and bosses. You collect money from them like RCR, and use it to buy things. Yakuza is more streamlined and linear than Shenmue, even though the game has open-ended playing fields.
Shenmue 1 is a virtual simulator adventure game. You are basically in a virtual snow globe with a large assortment of unique NPC's. Those NPC's operate on a 133 day timescale that starts on November 29th 1986 and ends on April 15th 1987. The NPC's have simplified lives of their own. The way you interact with the NPC's will have some affect on ending of the game.
The original Shenmue games were designed to read off each others save states. Depending on what day (in the game world) you completed Shenmue 1 on, it would carry over to Shenmue 2's start date. This will then affect what events could happen on the first day of Ryo's arrival in China. Different NPC's will be located in different spots on different days. Also, the seasonal changes affect the gameplay areas as well. Which will give each person playing a slightly different experience based on what they did in the first game. Otherwise Shenmue II defaults to February 23, 1987 as the start date. But you can start Shenmue II at an earlier or later date in 1987 with your Shenmue 1 save data.
I'm not even sure if this was carried over to the HD Shenmue collection? I hadn't bought it yet. I own the original on Dreamcast and obtained the sequel through other means ( I also purchased a copy on the 360). But the save feature carry-over works for Shenmue 1 and 2 on the Dreamcast.
Outside of that, Shenmue has a fighting game element to it as well, where you can learn new fighting moves from different people in the Yokosuka area. Which will affect the way fights play out. Shenmue also encourages the players to explore every area, which adds a puzzle solving element to the game.
The only other games that come somewhat close to this are Quantic Dream titles, and most of those are set on smaller scales. Some people also say "Life is Strange" as well. But I have never played that series.
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Probably best not to comment on it then, eh?
Anyway, it's been quite interesting to see the reactions on here to Shenmue 3 over the years, the amount of pointless negativity is tiresome. People just seize upon any part of the game, like the vid in the OP, without knowing anything else about the series, the circumstances behind its development, how those of us who are excited for it, are just grateful that it exists, just to make a lame shit-post. Thankfully we have the ignore button!
Probably best not to comment on Shenmue 3, then, cuz that's all we're doing here. Commenting on a game no one here's played. I've read and watched plenty of Crackdown 3 footage, but I honestly have no interest in building it up or destroying it; just commenting. I didn't bring the game into the discussion.
Are Huber's impressions available to watch anywhere? Would love to hear him chat about the game for a bit.
S3 impressions start around 57:50.
This is 100% how I always feel about this game. But I sincerely hope it lives up to what fans wanted.
Looks like shenmue! Can't wait!
Scared about the combat though. I always feared that now they lost Sega he wouldn't have access to his VF engine and so this game wouldn't be VF. Seems I was right. That's going to be a big hit.
Scared about the combat though. I always feared that now they lost Sega he wouldn't have access to his VF engine and so this game wouldn't be VF. Seems I was right. That's going to be a big hit.
The good thing about the delay is that they have 5 months to hopefully polish it. My biggest beef from the footage is the reaction to the hits and transitions between some attacks look a bit stiff. The actual attack move animations look good and I recognize many of them from the previous games.
I've played Shenmue III as well. For those of you who speak French, here is what I thought about it: http://www.gameblog.fr/news/83903-e3-2019-on-a-joue-a-shenmue-3-pour-la-premiere-fois-notre-av
You're right about the music. Thanks for linking the video. I know it's not what many expect and I'm totally fine with that, but I'm excited. So far it's met my expectations for a shenmue sequel.
Originally Shenmue was planned for the Sega Saturn as Virtua Fighter RPG. Ryo was suppose to be Akira from Virtua Fighter.
Because of the smaller CD ROM storage size, it was initially planed to have 10 parts. But when it was moved to the Sega Dreamcast, the game was cut down to 5 chapters. The Dreamcast GDROM's hold 1GB of data instead of 512MB's per CD. I think Yu Suzuki said that 5 games would be ideal, but he can also work with 4. Shenmue III was never meant to be the ending. Not even during the Sony 2015 pitch video.
Can't believe I've never heard that before (the original concept) Really cool.
yeah, AAA game made out to be a pillar franchise release being disappointingly archaic is totally the same as shenmue 3...what is by all accounts an indie game. lol
As non-native speaker, willing to share your brief impressions?
Earlier builds of Shenmue on the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast show a version of Ryo's model that looks more like Akira.
He has a white shirt and wrist bands seen worn by Akira in the Virtua Fighter series. They game Ryo a leather jacket just to make hic character look different. The Shenmue Saturn footage is still really impressive too.
Here's a render of Akira from the Virtua Fighter 2 "portrait series" that was released for the Sega Saturn in Japan:
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I do not have the heart to defend Shenmue 3. I'm one of the most passionate fans and I.. just can't anymore. Not after that announcement.
Feel like the the thread should be updated to link to the impressions and stuff in the OP. The impressions sound great and the b-roll IGN Japan uploaded is outdated. The impressions are more exciting than the mini-game footage.
What were you expecting to see as a backer, honestly, from Shenmue 3 with 1/15th of the budget it had for the other games?
Peter from the Shenmue Dojo found this shot hidden in IGN Japan's impressions recap video.
Yeah looks like there's a few shots in there that are new:
Really? I'm only noticing the Chai one, but to be fair I'm only skimming through.
Definitely. I honestly hope the game does well enough so you guys can get Shenmue 4 without having to ask for it for years. I've been through that process with a few games (11 years between DMC4 to DMC5 being the most brutal one) so I hope no other fanbase has to go through that again.
Yea, that's how it felt to me for the very short time that I had with it. What didn't click for me was how limited you are with the time and how everything works on a schedule. Coming from Yakuza, I love to just go around messing with everything at my own pace so that was something that bothered me here with Shenmue. And also the fact that it was way less action and much more adventure focused.
I can totally see how those can be huge positives for others tho. So like I said earlier, it's more of a taste thing rather one being better than the other. I honestly think the Yakuza and Shenmue comparisons don't do either series any justice. Just like how I was disappointed by coming to Shenmue expecting another Yakuza game, I can definitely see a Shenmue fan being disappointed by playing a Yakuza game after hearing the comparisons and thinking this will be similar experience to what they love from Shenmue.
Maybe I'm misremembering but isn't this new or did I just miss it in a previous trailer?
Yeah that's in the MAGIC 2019 trailer.Maybe I'm misremembering but isn't this new or did I just miss it in a previous trailer?
I'm real late to the party, but what is this "EGS mess" some of you are talking about? I'm still working my way through the last couple pages, but I don't see an explanation.
Earlier builds of Shenmue on the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast show a version of Ryo's model that looks more like Akira.
He has a white shirt and wrist bands seen worn by Akira in the Virtua Fighter series. They game Ryo a leather jacket just to make hic character look different. The Shenmue Saturn footage is still really impressive too.
Here's a render of Akira from the Virtua Fighter 2 "portrait series" that was released for the Sega Saturn in Japan:
This is great stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Man, there's a lot there. While I'm still happy to get Shenmue 3, this development process has felt painful and I have never been comfortable with Suzuki banking on making Shenmue 4.
Yea Shenmue 1 is very much that type of game. But the way you are describing your issues I think Shenmue 2 will be much better suited to your tastes. I am also a huge yakuza fan and just got into Shenmue series last year with remasters, and I was struggling to finish Shenmue 1 for a long time. But the moment I started 2 I was hooked from beginning to end. There is a much larger scale to it and you can explore the whole city at your own pace. And it has much more combat sections as well. By the time I finished 2 I was glad I played 1 as well and experienced the whole adventure. It took me 2-3 months to finish 1 but as I said, I was hooked on Shenmue 2 so much that I finished it in 4-5 days.
So I would say give Shenmue 2 a try if you weren't into 1 that much. They are quite different in terms of exploration and scale.