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Shawn Layden blames publishers and developers for lack of PlayStation crossplay (Up: Wargroove dev Chucklefish responds in thread - "We were told no")
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This kind of comment by Layden feels like an attempt to show that they are changing, hoping that people don't ditch their ecosystem for the next gen. Perhaps they feel threatened by something microsoft is doing, either way I'm glad they were called out with their lies and hopefully they can be better in the future
The Road to GDC is Laden with lies. Hopefully someone calls him on this at said event and makes him give a straight answer.
I'll never understand what drives people to be so blinded by console wars to defend anti consumer practices.
Bye.
We need devs like you to care to help improve gaming for all gamers.
Don't give up yet. 💪
Good for Tiy to shed some light. Hopefully this doesn't put his relation with Sony at risk.
Come. On.
Come. On.
The mental gymnastic some members come up with to defend their favorite corporations is astonishing.
I'll refer back to this:
So either he's lying or, at best, he's being extremely misleading. Neither are a good look.
lol a "beta" for a "program" where they simply say yes or no to a developer.
Definitely a communication thing. Sony already stated their intentions about they're going to support crossplay.
From what we know when Sony announced crossplay, there's currently a beta and only certain games are allowed in. When they open it up to more games they'll be giving more details about it.
Open beta is an excuse they just roll out to prevent bigger games from leaving the platform. They put more effort into PlayStation Mobile then this.
The benefits of incorporating cross play outweigh any reasoning Sony might have to not want to enable it, it's actually baffling.
How is only certain games being allowed in not a "gating factor"???
Oh, I forgot the beta is exclusive to the people who pre-ordered crossplay.
You do know that Fortnite "accidentally" had crossplay for PS4 enabled for a short period long before Sony announced this "beta" crossplay program, right? It's the main reason why people are so vocal about it, because they had it ready to go for a long-ass time, and the only people in the way were Sony.
They're only using the "beta" term as an excuse to do selective rollouts. It seems that it has been possible for devs to do for a very long time at this point.
So he's either lying here, or he's being extremely misleading to deflect. Gotcha.
It's impressive how you still believe the bullshit they are feeding us. Your devotion to a corporation is....something.
What could've possibly gave you that impression literally nothing changed but a fresh new(I use new loosely) coat of paint It's the same community. Hell I'd argue it got worst
They're like the paranoid old veterans of the great Console Wars of the '90's emerging from the jungle they've been hiding in for the first time since and quickly realizing the world had left them well behind.
I don't remember Nintendo and Microsoft having a beta period for crossplay did they? They just rolled out the feature. Why Sony needs an extended beta period for crossplay then?
Actually we know, this beta thing is just bullshit spinning for the fact they don't want crossplay in their system and they're gatekeeping the feature, allowing just the most popular games to have that feature because they can strong arm Sony. Everyone else is shit out of luck.
Is super transparent yet people still do mental gymnastics over it. smh
Actually we know, this beta thing is just bullshit spinning for the fact they don't want crossplay in their system and they're gatekeeping the feature, allowing just the most popular games to have that feature because they can strong arm Sony. Everyone else is shit out of luck.
Is super transparent yet people still do mental gymnastics over it. smh
Correct. No such period of testing ever existed. Cross-play just entered circulation naturally as the tech became possible. I think Rocket League was one of the trailblazers if I'm remembering right. Or maybe even as far back as Gears of War from 360 to PC
Holy moly. I feel dizzy from the failed attempt at maximum spin.
Fortnite has been beta testing cross-play on Sony's behalf for a while now ;-)
This thread started off weird.. some comments coming across as really.. aah.. what's the right corporate word?... Inauthentic?
Sending and receiving TCP/UDP packets between the developers own server infrastructure is ludicrous to label as a beta, this is an internal Sony policy prohibiting developers from serving specific data.
Sony has everything implemented developers need to authenticate a user on their own game infrastructure. This is not a technical problem, it's a policy problem.
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This is the type of shit bait response when someone has an opposing point and you have nothing worth note to say.
I dont blame them for taking precautions on crossplay. I definitely won't take ones word over the others either..
It's like these devs are using the players and communities to fight their battles, for their bottom lines. Dont see no valid reason for SL to flat out lie, especially after the pipeline has been set.
Something has to be lost in translation.
Thanks.
At least i have proof to back up my claims.
We are probably only 18 months from a new generation. Stuff like this, the lack of refunds and game pass really piss me off and make it more likely I would go with MS next generation. MS are laying the foundations for a great next generation console and service. Sony on the other hand are making so many bad moves.
What precautions? Both Microsoft and Nintendo seem to have no problems at all with this
Well that reason would be that they don't really wanna do it and are just trying to damage control
It's been a complete botch job from the moderators despite that. It's gone from "Misleading" to "Misleading/Sensationalist" and now wound back to "Potentially Misleading" in the space of about 3 hours.
For the same reason Microsoft lied about the indie parity policy? Because admitting it is a bad look?
Pipeline? What pipeline? Everything technically is done on the developer side. Sony literally just has to say yes or no.
Or....he's just lying
Putting the blame on the devs. That's a new low in a thread full of corporate apologist.
This isn't really on topic. Layden said one thing and devs are contradicting him. I'm not really sure how you escaped my ignore list from the plethora of cross play threads that came before this one.
LOL you have a blog post about a beta program. A beta for people to say yes or no. That is the extent of your proof. Meanwhile we have had multiple developers directly point to Sony not working with them on crossplay or flat out saying no. I'll believe the developers over a suit and those who will lap up anything they say.
You don't have proof. You have a lie that you tell yourself every time you think about this topic.
I know he got banned, but my lord.
Reminder. Corporations are not your friends stop shilling for them. Enjoy a product by all means but towing the line and you're not an employee? doesn't pass the smell test.
I've seen some priceless attempts at distraction in this thread. If you as a gamer don't want cross play or don't care about it (if that's the case I'd question why you would in this thread ;)) that's great.
The rest of the us the consumers want as much choice as possible and that's the problem with Sony this gen. From a consumer view they always think they know best.
So Sony. Great games and a terrible disgusting approach to us their users.
And yet, his shit bait response manages to make more sense than your pathetic attempt at portraying these indie devs as some sort of bullies:
Get out of here with this corporate apologist bullshit.