If you don't work for Sony, this is fucking embarrassing. I'm actually sad FOR you so you don't have to be...because you won't be.
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Shawn Layden blames publishers and developers for lack of PlayStation crossplay (Up: Wargroove dev Chucklefish responds in thread - "We were told no")
- Thread starter Aokiji
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Thank you for your input, Sony should really rethink their policies regarding crossplay.
I'm gonna purchase a copy of Wargroove today to support you guys who are willing to speak out.
I planned to digest my backlog first but i have to do sth to show my appreciation. Gamers must unite against such bs policy.
That's happened with some games and will continue to happen in the future.
I don't have a problem with them deciding to not allow a feature in its system, because it's its damn fucking system.
But blaming and targeting the developers as the culpables, and we're talking of a fucking medium full of idiot guys harassing to developers, it's the most shameful shitshow that I have seen in various decades following this medium.
This is not arrogant Sony, this is the equivalent of Sony managed by Donald Trump.
But blaming and targeting the developers as the culpables, and we're talking of a fucking medium full of idiot guys harassing to developers, it's the most shameful shitshow that I have seen in various decades following this medium.
This is not arrogant Sony, this is the equivalent of Sony managed by Donald Trump.
It's were Sony needs to step up if they want the privilege of the money in our wallets. We as consumers need to stop acting like the things we want exist because a corporation provides them and it not because we demand them. Yes Sony makes great games and hopefully they continue you too. But we can't let this companies think they are to big to fail.
The funniest thing about that post is I guaranteed the Switch version has outsold it many times over
Oh shit.
I guess not.
Somewhat related: Wish Boyes stayed around then. He was good for Sony.
Both Xbox and Nintendo got it to work in no time because users asked for it, they had no problem with it and worked on that. They basically just said "yeah let's do it".
Not referring to you but to certain people on this thread: let's cut the bullsh*t, if Sony really wanted it, Cross-Play with all other platforms would already be a thing.
So this Shawn Layden guy is just a straight up liar?
That seems the long and the short of this.
That seems the long and the short of this.
Yeah, it's good. Maybe we can get some clarification on what "open for business" really means.
It's pretty easy to outsell something that has zero sales...
They delayed the game on PS4 because of the troubles of getting crossplay working.
Power does truly corrupt. It's hard to imagine that this is the same company that opened up their pitch for the PlayStation 4 with odes to developer co-operation and friendship.
So the context is
Sony is doing slow rollout for crossplay and are selecting who can and cannot participate?
Either way Layden laying the blame ANY where but on their own shoulders is bullshit
They should be the ones making it simple for Devs to do this and helping out. Not the other way around
Sony is doing slow rollout for crossplay and are selecting who can and cannot participate?
Either way Layden laying the blame ANY where but on their own shoulders is bullshit
They should be the ones making it simple for Devs to do this and helping out. Not the other way around
Not only that but throws all devs under the bus in his next breath. Nice job Shawn.
Nah. The name change stuff requires actual back end work on Sony's part. There is no technical hurdle to getting cross play working on PS4. Not from Sony's side at least. The devs are saying they're ready to go on their end, they just need the go ahead and to run through the proper policy hurdles. Unfortunately Sony isn't working with them to do that (with the exception of the few games they've deemed worthy so far).
Thanks for the clarification. This makes more sense and going by past developers comments it seems like the dev-community is more than ready and equipped to enable cross-plattform support on all systems.
Lets hope that Sony opens up more about this issue. Just assuming that the game sold best on Switch/PC and why wouldnt they want their Wargroove PS4 players have access to a bigger online community.
lol
Another reminder why competition is good.
User warned: Antagonizing other members and system wars
You make me sick.
To be fair, who's to say Sony doesn't block these guys with their next project :/
So disappointing and so fucking obviously a lie, but awesome of Chucklefish to come in and confirm it. I really need to get Wargroove, it looks amazing and perfect for Switch. Sony has a nice setup of exclusives, it's such a shame that their execs make me want to throw my money at everyone but them. This isn't console warring at all, I've played the shit out of my PS4 ... I just can't with them right now.
Not even going to comment on the CozMick quote, that person has already been dealt with, haha.
Not even going to comment on the CozMick quote, that person has already been dealt with, haha.
Mobile? And second most popular would be PC. I don't see why this would affect a release on both of those platforms.
Thanks for the response! It is sad that the console you own is being made by arrogant people how want to divide (more) the community. I will be there day 1 buying your game for the PS4.
I really hope that the media outlets call out Sony for making vapid excuses for the lack of cooperation.
Their customer base will talk about how no one cares for Chucklefish and their game no one has heard of, or something.
So Sony is willing to put children at risk of exposure to Xbox Live and Switch players if a game is popular enough?! Disgusting.
A stern no across the board is required to keep the children safe!
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A stern no across the board is required to keep the children safe!
/s
Crossplay should be the industry standard. Hopefully developers will keep piling on the pressure until every company is forced to adopt it.
Name change stuff is entirely on Sony's infrastructure.
Cross-play, in general, works by having the developers roll out their own multiplayer infrastructure. Which means that they're not reliant upon Sony coming up with some way to talk to MS and Nintendo, but the developer has to do that work for themselves. The thing that they need from Sony is permission to cross the multiplayer pools, not a complex technical solution that Sony has to build internally. Which is why it can just be flipping a switch, if they've already done the work for cross-play but are having to restrict it for PS because of Sony's policies.
(Take this with a grain of salt as I work in software dev but not in gaming.)
If they're petty enough to lie about this and throw devs under the bus, they're probably petty enough to do this.