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Shadow of the Tomb Raider Devs "Super Happy" With Sales and Reviews as DLC Wraps Up
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I hope it did well enough to warrant another new Tomb Raider within the next couple of years, but I did not like Shadow. Hopefully they shake things up for the next game.
It is probably my favorite of the new trilogy so I am glad the devs are happy with the sales numbers.
I'm glad it did well enough for them to be happy about. The Tomb Raider reboots were excellent and, other than story telling, made the Uncharted games feel antiquated in comparison. I hope they keep making them for a long time to come.
Because people build up narratives in their minds and it doesn't matter what anyone says, they know better. It's as ridiculous as it is common around here, or anywhere gamer's congregate for that matter. You can't have a discussion about a developer/publisher comment without a bunch of neckbeards claiming they are wrong or lying. Who knew the mere act of playing video games gave you more insight and insider information that the people who are actually working in the industry?
Because people build up narratives in their minds and it doesn't matter what anyone says, they know better. It's as ridiculous as it is common around here, or anywhere gamer's congregate for that matter. You can't have a discussion about a developer/publisher comment without a bunch of neckbeards claiming they are wrong or lying. Who knew the mere act of playing video games gave you more insight and insider information that the people who are actually working in the industry?
with marketing (which are still real costs) I bet it's over that
It was a cool trilogy. Story-wise, the highlight for me was the first game. Gameplay-wise, Rise was at it (for me). Shadow has some cool ideas, but I feel if they are continuing this character's route, they need a design overhaul, especially in the writing department. Most of the characters are insufferable.
Well if 250 people worked on it for 3yrs
Thats $70000x 250 x 3yrs = $52,500,000
Plus the Microsoft Co marketing.
I don't know I remember ppl here say horizon zero dawn cost like $45 million.
And I said the same thing you did so who knows.
Also one thing people don't realise that it's not only the size of the dev team that gets paid lol.
After completing the TLOU1 the other day, there is literally 1000's of people involved.
So yeah your right, tomb and other games like horizon :ZD cost way more then what the devs get.
These games are probably more like $80-100 million.
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I 100% shortly after release. It's a great game and definitely hope they get more swings at Lara down the road. She is now seasoned and ready for prime time as the one and only Tomb Raider.
The real question is whether or not they converted twice as many at half price who might have been interested, but not 60 dollars interested. Sure, it's shitty for those who bought at full price, but so long as SE and CD made their money back, what's it matter if you sell 6 million at 10 dollars or 1 million at 60 dollars? If you can't leverage the entire player base, then you have to meet them in the middle. It's truly a buyer's market. Sucks for the devs, but that's life these days.
She's mentioned extremely briefly. If you indeed loved the tombs and puzzles, those are the real reason to see the DLC.
This...is a terrible analogy because those games broke sales records. Why would you choose these games out of all the others to try to prove your point (which didn't work out the way you thought, I might add)?
I'll be surprise if we see a sequel (reboot maybe) and tbh I think it's time for the franchise to lie dormant for a while.
I got my copy from a fire sale a couple of months back and lost all interest to continue after progressing 20% into the game. The biggest issue is it's boring combat and story imo.
I got my copy from a fire sale a couple of months back and lost all interest to continue after progressing 20% into the game. The biggest issue is it's boring combat and story imo.
Glad it performed well, also glad to see good games that sell well come to Gamepass soon.
I'm currently playing it on Gamepass, so far I see many improvements over Rise, specially in the story and character writing. However I think I enjoyed rise more, probably because it had more room to exploration and because I'm getting tired of linear action games.
Also, Shadow has the best underwater exploration in gaming.
And many many thanks for making a game with incan culture.
I'm currently playing it on Gamepass, so far I see many improvements over Rise, specially in the story and character writing. However I think I enjoyed rise more, probably because it had more room to exploration and because I'm getting tired of linear action games.
Also, Shadow has the best underwater exploration in gaming.
And many many thanks for making a game with incan culture.
Started it through Gamepass then DMC:V and Sekiro came out, I want to get back into it. I liked the opening more than Rise of the Tombraider
that'd be great but i fear that eidos montreal and crystal are going to become marvel game factories from now on
Just look at those noodles.
Now, just for comparison, let's look at some of the best female climbers in the world!
Anak Verhoeven
Ashima Shiraishi
Sasha DiGiulian
So yeah, the strength to weight ratio comes in a different form for climbers: being big isn't a good idea. If anything, the Shadow Lara model is overly muscular (though Lara is more of a gymnast than a strict climber, which is likely why they modeled her with a much more muscular frame).
Also, 'triceps' on a climber...*snicker*
Good to hear. I like that they made their entry into this franchise fairly unique even if it meant it didn't have the wide appeal of the other two. I hope Eidos Montrael gets to make more games because I really enjoy their stuff.
The game is also a technical beast on PC. One of the best looking games out there easily and a great PC version.
The game is also a technical beast on PC. One of the best looking games out there easily and a great PC version.
I thought the budget is over $100 million? Pretty sure I've read something like that before.
Your number is much closer. No way was it made for $50 million.
I'm in favor of another reboot and the dwindling sales for each additional entry supports that.
Yeah budget of Shadow is between $75-100m just for production
Another $35m for marketing
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-05-12-shadow-of-the-tomb-raider-costs-usd75-usd100m-to-make
And they ALL have shoulders broader than hers. And no her arms and shoulders do not enough muscle to support her upper body.
Well yeah that's kinda my point. It's dumb to insinuate that we should wait until that point in the future when games' sequels are announced when we could just like use what we have available right now, such as the person in the OP confirming that this game sold well.
Does anyone know what developers at Square Enix Eidos are even able to take over the franchise? Crystal dynamics is making Marvel GaaS titles and Eidos Montreal seems to become a support studio for the Marvel license
Great news. Love the series.
And having such terrible writing/story with a budget like that, is quite an accomplishment too.
And having such terrible writing/story with a budget like that, is quite an accomplishment too.
But what's the sales of this game? "Super Happy" sounds like desperate advertising without numbers to back it up.
And another Square game, Dragon Quest XI, inexplicably was released a week before SotTR. I'll never understand that reasoning especially when the previous weeks were pretty much barren. But nope, let's launch two games that are at risk of falling through the cracks right next to each other and themselves close to the juggernaut that was Spiderman.
They better not reboot it. Change the style of the game? Maybe but no reboot, not yet at least. They just finished the "origin trilogy" or whatever it is they're calling these games, I want this Lara grown into THE Tomb Raider now. At least in one game.
In fairness, the 11m figure for the original reboot would include both the initial release and the definitive edition that hit this generation, so not really apples-to-apples with either Rise or Shadow. The reboot also took over a year to reach 6 million sales (and a further year including the definitive edition to reach 8.5m), so 4m+ for Shadow currently (plus whatever the Gamepass deal entails) is probably not bad all considered.
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This is good to hear, I was a little nervous about this games performance and I hope Square Enix are still confident in this series and we'll see more. I do wonder if this entries targets were a bit lower due to a different studio taking the lead.
I was a bit apprehensive with Shadow, it's initial reveals didn't look very impressive and it's reception was rather lukewarm, but I ended up borrowing it from my library and was so impressed I immediately bought it (though it was on sale) with the DLC and it's easily my favourite of the reboot franchise. If i'm looking at them all critically, I do think they are all probably about even in quality, each with it's own strengths and weaknesses, with perhaps the first entry still being just slightly the best, but Shadow's much bigger emphasis on it's puzzles and exploration and reduced focus on combat really worked for me. I love how this entry has different difficult settings for those 3 core elements too. There was so many moments of awe and inspiration, and it felt paced far closer to the classic series and I really appreciated that. Didn't feel like it was jumping me from set pieces or forcing me into combat encounters too quickly, it really gave each area and story beat room to breathe. I quite like how the DLC works and added more puzzles and quests into the base game, or had them as optional extras for challenge runs, nearly doubling the amount of challenge tombs in the game. A big improvement over the fairly mediocre expansions that Rise saw, at least for me.
If anyone that enjoyed either of the first two but is on the fence about this entry, I would highly recommend it. Know that it does take a step back in some areas, the combat isn't quite as strong, most notably the feedback from enemies (muzzle flashes on weapons being quite basic, no blood splatter effects, combat just has a little less life in it), and some of the sound design is a bit weaker (those really nice UI sound prompts are quite a bit more basic), but the overall sound design is still strong, with a very good musical score and weapon and environmental sounds. The story is about on par with the last two entries, the dialogue is a bit poor and story overall is fun, and executes on some themes and tropes better than the past entries, but I wouldn't call a step forward in it's overall execution. It really excels with it's environmental designs and puzzles though, that is where the game shines and what I look for in a Tomb Raider game. There is a lot more I could get into, but that's not really what this thread is about and I just waned to quickly give my opinion on the game.
I was a bit apprehensive with Shadow, it's initial reveals didn't look very impressive and it's reception was rather lukewarm, but I ended up borrowing it from my library and was so impressed I immediately bought it (though it was on sale) with the DLC and it's easily my favourite of the reboot franchise. If i'm looking at them all critically, I do think they are all probably about even in quality, each with it's own strengths and weaknesses, with perhaps the first entry still being just slightly the best, but Shadow's much bigger emphasis on it's puzzles and exploration and reduced focus on combat really worked for me. I love how this entry has different difficult settings for those 3 core elements too. There was so many moments of awe and inspiration, and it felt paced far closer to the classic series and I really appreciated that. Didn't feel like it was jumping me from set pieces or forcing me into combat encounters too quickly, it really gave each area and story beat room to breathe. I quite like how the DLC works and added more puzzles and quests into the base game, or had them as optional extras for challenge runs, nearly doubling the amount of challenge tombs in the game. A big improvement over the fairly mediocre expansions that Rise saw, at least for me.
If anyone that enjoyed either of the first two but is on the fence about this entry, I would highly recommend it. Know that it does take a step back in some areas, the combat isn't quite as strong, most notably the feedback from enemies (muzzle flashes on weapons being quite basic, no blood splatter effects, combat just has a little less life in it), and some of the sound design is a bit weaker (those really nice UI sound prompts are quite a bit more basic), but the overall sound design is still strong, with a very good musical score and weapon and environmental sounds. The story is about on par with the last two entries, the dialogue is a bit poor and story overall is fun, and executes on some themes and tropes better than the past entries, but I wouldn't call a step forward in it's overall execution. It really excels with it's environmental designs and puzzles though, that is where the game shines and what I look for in a Tomb Raider game. There is a lot more I could get into, but that's not really what this thread is about and I just waned to quickly give my opinion on the game.
there are too many people who just want to see the series fail cause they personally dont like the direction.
if your gonna do that, atleast dont make up weird things in your head simply to make yourself feel better.
this is as bad as the anti captain marvel people
if your gonna do that, atleast dont make up weird things in your head simply to make yourself feel better.
this is as bad as the anti captain marvel people
Good for them but I have no desire to play it after the first two games. Hopefully they'll go as far as possible from that style of game whenever they make a new one.
The game price was rapidly and greatly reduced two weeks after its release
That 4 million unit number doesn't look so profitable now