Just "port" is more apt in this case.
See?
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Shadow Man Remastered trailer | PC Gaming Show 2020
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I guess I've made the common mistake of confusing 'remaster' with 'remake'. That said, I wish they'd done more to polish up the game. May be nostalgic rose-tinted glasses, but this doesn't look much different from the Dreamcast version.
Baffled by the people upset that this looks the same as the original game. It's a remaster, not a remake.
It's the original game but (hopefully!) running nice on modern machines. Ie better than your PS1 disc looks on a 50" OLED or better than my Steam version runs on my modern rig without a bunch of ini mods.
It's the original game but (hopefully!) running nice on modern machines. Ie better than your PS1 disc looks on a 50" OLED or better than my Steam version runs on my modern rig without a bunch of ini mods.
You should check out their work on the Turok remasters or the Forsaken one. They're amazing work.
I mean the lighting/shadow systems are in fact different so its mostly just people not actually remembering what the original was. For a game like this thats a perfect addition.
The main theme which plays in this clip is such an amazing track. Takes me right back to playing this on the Nintendo 64 in 1999(?). Loved the game then, but unlike Turok 1 and 2, I'm not convinced this is worth replaying in 2020. I really appreciate the job Nightdive is doing though!
This visibly has all the upgrades the Turok remasters had and y'all are complaining this time lmao
In hard for this. Loved it growing up.
In hard for this. Loved it growing up.
The atmosphere in this game is pure magic and it deserves to be played despite its flaws. Is really hard to take the photo by myself, but here it is.
The atmosphere in this game is pure magic and it deserves to be played despite its flaws. Is really hard to take the photo by myself, but here it is.
Wow, nice work!
No, you're expecting a remake.
At a glance they've added real time shadows, motion blur and ambient occlusion. It looks fantastic.
Wow, very cool! Thanks for sharing.The atmosphere in this game is pure magic and it deserves to be played despite its flaws. Is really hard to take the photo by myself, but here it is.
I will check this out when it releases. Nightdive seems to do great work.
I see. I'm not familiar with the Turok remaster. Sorry for the negative reaction, I suppose I was expecting something different. Of course, now that I've thought about it, it's inline with other remasters I've seen. I admit I haven't played the game in ages. I'll have to check some old footage to see what the original Dreamcast ran like.
Same here. I'm weirdly hyped to replay this. The atmosphere and the gameplay combination of Zelda and Quake left a lasting impact that keeps surprising me years after I last played it, especially considering the mechanics themselves are a little clunky.
Can't wait :)
there already is a shadow man port that has been available for a long time
this is very clearly a remaster
it was *fine*
it's pretty short from what i remember and is not as interesting as the first game
i thought it looked really good at the time, though
I have to say, I'm a fan of remasters that strive to maintain the original art style and look. I don't think that's a very easy task, as a lot of games' signature look and atmosphere stem from hardware limitations and it might be tempting (or just easier) to remake a lot of stuff, even if it's just to avoid reactions as the ones seen in this thread, which might completely throw off the art style. I think there's a very interesting and underrated balancing act going on with certain remasters, especially from this era.
Some people need to look up the definition of remaster it seems. I didn't expect much more and am quite pleased with this,
And there are quite a few improvements visible if you actually remember what the original game looked and played like (even the PC version): real time soft shadows, better lighting in general, better animation blending, etc.
And there are quite a few improvements visible if you actually remember what the original game looked and played like (even the PC version): real time soft shadows, better lighting in general, better animation blending, etc.
I love the part in the trailer where the player struggles to turn over and over to pick up the collectible item.
I will buy this. Actually, I think... I *already* bought this? I own a Shadowman from Nightdive, and it doesn't seem like they released it that long ago. What's the core difference between this and that?
I will buy this. Actually, I think... I *already* bought this? I own a Shadowman from Nightdive, and it doesn't seem like they released it that long ago. What's the core difference between this and that?
Lighting and shadowing system revisions at minimum. Particles also look better but it's been some 5 years since I last played
No, you are not the only one. I do care, a lot.
I appreciate the work done on the lighting and shadows (I noticed it immediately). But can you do something to improve the look of those very low res textures ?
I love the way it looks.
It looks like a developer bullshot from 1999 in motion.
Jesus what a blast from the past. I'm pretty sure I still have the DC copy in my basement haha. I remember this game being super oppressive in atmosphere. Not sure how it'd hold up now but it was definitely a really unique game
I would be, except that Shadow Man as an IP just isn't very well-known. It *seems* like Nightdive has worked pretty hard on their remake for System Shock, and in terms of a comparison that is an extremely well-known franchise and, well, they've struggled really hard to deliver it. From the Kickstarter mess, to switching engines, delays, lack of vision -- it's been difficult for them. They're at least discovering that their talents are in remasters and not remakes, per se, or at least re-envisioning. Shadow Man could just never be an investment for them like that; the payoff is far too small.
That being said, I really have to admit, this remaster -- judging by the video -- seems like it isn't doing too much in the way of replacing missing detail. The textures not being redone in some way is a shame, since that and the geometric detail of the game is where the age is most apparent. It's a big job, so I get why they aren't doing it, but then again I suspect they will ask around 20 bucks for this and if so, like, doesn't that deserve some kind of re-done art?
A games cost isn't only in textures and polygons, if you're unaware. There's a thousand other things going on such as R&D, extensive programming related to getting anything to run with a modern compilers and pipelines (Turok2's 4 byte void pointers were a wild discovery, how was that ever a thing?), developing the tools, disassembly for us especially (the thing that requires specialist skills and expensive tools), and there's not a lot to float the cost. Plus costs dictated by licensing, like with Turok.
Yes, I am aware. I am also aware that many remasters come out that do tackle texture detail -- in addition to programming, and other work. I get it -- Nightdive doesn't have that kind of money, and they're doing the best they can. I can still be disappointed.
One of the few N64 games I owned and probably one of the most played along with Ogre Battle 64 and OoT. Super bummed Nightdive couldn't get the rights to NOLF, I don't think that's even possible to play on modern systems.
Turok2's code was a goldmine of weird. We had what was likely a pre-release version of the code (it was for PC and the multiplayer looked incomplete) but we found things like code comments of developers arguing with each other. But the one thing that stuck out at me was they relied on the void type being 4 bytes wide for some of their data management (due to function parameters transfering objects as void pointers), a quirk of the compiler they used at the time. In actuality void is supposed to be 0, as it represents no type and has no meaningful identity (C++ is a memory management language, so how big things are comes up a lot). They seemed to realise this as they converted the project over to vc6, but somehow thought that 0 bytes was a bug.
We were... Quite perplexed to say the least.
Hey, I know some of those words!
Thanks for sharing, I think I understood it.
Shadowman 64 is one of my all time favorites. Everybody should give this remaster a try on their platform of choice. Thanks to Nightdive for working on it.
I went back to the Dreamcast version for a few hours last year.... It doesn't really hold up, imo.
Cool story and concept but the overall muddy look of the game and the simple environments and combat meant I didn't last too long...
As long as this version can be played at higher than 30 fps without glitching out, I'm good.
For those who don't know, the original PC version is completely broken above 30 fps. You can't even finish the game at a certain framerate. I kept falling to my death from a ledge and I had no idea why until I googled how to get past that part. Some enemies will also require more hits to kill and other fun stuff.
For those who don't know, the original PC version is completely broken above 30 fps. You can't even finish the game at a certain framerate. I kept falling to my death from a ledge and I had no idea why until I googled how to get past that part. Some enemies will also require more hits to kill and other fun stuff.
On Twitter, one of the developers said it runs on Switch at 60 fps. So higher than 30 it is!
Will this have dual analog / modern camera controls? For me that's pretty much all Shadow Man needed.