SF Bay Area - Shelter in Place effective 12:01 am Tuesday

Darknight · Mar 17, 2020

sarumog said:
Just out of curiosity how are the homeless handling this? Can't imagine it's that good for them in SF.

Can't speak for SF but in the South Bay I had to drive in to the office cuz of a power outage shut down my system and along the way there's a spot where homeless people normally are and it was completely empty.

On a different note, I was kinda surprised how many people were out and about on the way in though.

spam musubi · Mar 17, 2020

sarumog said:
Just out of curiosity how are the homeless handling this? Can't imagine it's that good for them in SF.

Supposedly they're setting up motels for the homeless to take shelter in.

Miletius · Mar 17, 2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Coronavirus-and-homeless-people-SF-wants-to-15138174.php

Seems like they are trying to secure indoor shelter for the homeless as of right now. Feels a bit cruel though, as in, as in soon it'll go away for them again.

Deleted member 19070 · Mar 17, 2020

t26 said:
State is paying hotel for them to stay in

Hundreds of Oakland hotel rooms secured to shelter the homeless during pandemic

To help prevent the spread of COVID-19, the state is moving hundreds of homeless...

m.sfgate.com

Ahh thnx. Btw don't read those comments some horrible stuff in the comments section.

Fushichou187 · Mar 17, 2020

Sonoma County just declared Shelter in Place orders effective at midnight tonight.

http://sonomacounty.ca.gov/CAO/Pres...cer-Orders-County-Residents-Shelter-in-Place/

The Sonoma County Health Officer has issued a Health Order directing residents to shelter in place effective midnight on Wednesday March 18, 2020.

This recent Order comes after the County received two additional cases of local transmission from coronavirus (COVID-19) yesterday, and two cases over the past weekend.

All individuals currently living within the County are ordered to shelter at their homes. To the extent individuals are using shared or outdoor spaces, they must at all times as reasonably possible maintain social distancing of at least six feet from any other person when they are outside their residence.

This Health Order will be in place for three weeks until April 7, 2020. The Health Order limits activity, travel and business functions to only the most basic and essential needs.

They do go into detail about what services are considered essential, which is good. They didn't explain what activities are allowed outside however--- is it okay to go on a run if nobody is around? Hiking/walking? Fishing by yourself? I understand that the point of the announcement is to emphasize not going outside, but people are going to want to get some fresh air or, go somewhere where they are away from population centers. Hopefully the county's FAQ is updated to clarify.

Domino Theory · Mar 17, 2020

Any chance this could be cut short if the situation improves after two weeks?

carlsojo · Mar 17, 2020

Domino Theory said:
Any chance this could be cut short if the situation improves after two weeks?

I don't think so. I would settle in for the long hall.

Syriel · Mar 17, 2020

Domino Theory said:
Any chance this could be cut short if the situation improves after two weeks?

It is only 2-3 weeks now. It'll be extended if needed. Chance of cutting short is low.

spam musubi · Mar 17, 2020

Domino Theory said:
Any chance this could be cut short if the situation improves after two weeks?

I would say that it getting extended is likelier then it getting cut short

GameAddict411 · Mar 17, 2020

DirtyManos said:
Really think this lockdown rollout is being half-assed in a way that will make people non compliant.

Without any mention of how people will get relief from bills and debt, people will work or find ways to work regardless. People are going to feel abandoned.

I'm not even blaming the city particularly, clearly a lot of the financial security net is not in their control besides (I ASSUME) rent and evictions. But car payments, loans, mortgages, credit cards - wtf is going to happen? Most people can't ride out an indeterminate amount of time.

I agree with this. These extreme measures can not be sustained over long periods of time. I give it a few weeks before many people run out of money and food. Then what? How are people supposed to live? Unlike posh jobs, a lot of people are not getting paid when these "non-essential" services gets closed.

Superpupperbabysassy · Mar 17, 2020

I just left SF with my wife. I only saw three homeless people in the SOMA. That's something I've never seen.

jvalioli · Mar 17, 2020

sarumog said:
Just out of curiosity how are the homeless handling this? Can't imagine it's that good for them in SF.

All of the homeless that live near me are in their usual spot.

Miletius said:
It seems as though people are adhering to the spirit of the shelter policy, at least in principle. My partner is an essential employee, and traffic was deader than a doornail this morning (she could have taken BART + a short bus ride, but we've decided to avoid public transit for the time being and she doesn't really enjoy driving). I live in downtown SF, and very few people have been on the streets. The lockdown was never intended to have all people cease activity completely, but to get people to clear out as much as possible and it seems to be having that effect. At the same time, I can, for example, go out to pick her up without fear of being pulled over by the cops.

I wonder if my cleaners are gonna come next week

There are people outside near me. Less than usual but more than I expected. I'm in Castro.

Scrub Jay · Mar 17, 2020

Monterey County as well. I am essential personnel so I report in tomorrow but we get 80 hours of time off/work from home. Management is scrambling figuring out how many people need to go to the office. Tomorrow should be fun.

Vilam · Mar 17, 2020

Midramble said:
Anyone else get that "stay inside" emergency text?

Yup, sure did. Creepy. I'm surprised Trump hasn't used the nationwide emergency text for this crisis yet.

Smoothcb · Mar 17, 2020

Just putting this out there!

Midramble · Mar 17, 2020

Smoothcb said:
Just putting this out there!

Well, know what I'm doing for the weekend instead of going to the bar

Darknight · Mar 17, 2020

Schools might be done for the rest of this school year:

California governor: Most schools likely out until the fall

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Most California schools will likely remain closed for the rest of the school year because of the new coronavirus, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Tuesday. Nearly all the state's schools have already shut down as the most populous state tries to stop the spread of the virus...

www.sfgate.com

PassiveObserver · Mar 17, 2020

Smoothcb said:
Just putting this out there!

Need this to be Oakland as well.

wenis · Mar 17, 2020

Smoothcb said:
Just putting this out there!

i eagerly await tomorrow morning when I can go pickup.

Frostinferno · Mar 18, 2020

PassiveObserver said:
Need this to be Oakland as well.

Pretty sure it is. Friend was at one yesterday.

ZedLilIndPum · Mar 18, 2020

They forced Tesla to shut down the Fremont plant, thank goodness.

ApatheticDolphin · Mar 18, 2020

ZedLilIndPum said:
They forced Tesla to shut down the Fremont plant, thank goodness.

Elon said fuck that apparently!

Tesla to limit workers at California factory with virus lockdown order, county says

Tesla Inc has agreed to reduce the number of active workers at its California vehicle factory, but remains in talks about other measures to comply with a regional lockdown to curb the spread of coronavirus, a county spokesman said on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

ZedLilIndPum · Mar 19, 2020

ApatheticDolphin said:
Elon said fuck that apparently!

Tesla to limit workers at California factory with virus lockdown order, county says

Tesla Inc has agreed to reduce the number of active workers at its California vehicle factory, but remains in talks about other measures to comply with a regional lockdown to curb the spread of coronavirus, a county spokesman said on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

https://www.sfchronicle.com/busines...s-Fremont-factory-car-production-15143877.php

Still open today. Conditions sound pretty unsanitary.

I'm wondering if Musk's offer to make ventilators is a gambit to be classified "essential".

Superpupperbabysassy · Mar 19, 2020

I hate to say this. But I think it's going to get bad in the Peninsula. In Foster City today people are treating this shutdown like an day off and playing in the park. Seals Point is closed. People were parking on the street to sneak in.

Darknight · Mar 19, 2020

ZedLilIndPum said:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/busines...s-Fremont-factory-car-production-15143877.php

Still open today. Conditions sound pretty unsanitary.

I'm wondering if Musk's offer to make ventilators is a gambit to be classified "essential".

Tesla is now shutting down the factory. Their statement is pretty laughable though:

"Despite taking all known health precautions, continued operations in certain locations has caused challenges for our employees, their families and our suppliers," the company wrote in a press release. "As such, we have decided to temporarily suspend production" at both factories.

OtterMatic · Mar 30, 2020

Coronavirus: Expect Bay Area shelter-in-place order extension this week, officials say

"In all likelihood, we'll have another shelter in place order early this week," Cindy Chavez, president of the Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors, said during a tour of county fairgrounds facilities that will be used to help unhoused people protect themselves from the coronavirus.

Bay Area public health officers who co-signed the country's first widespread shelter-in-place order, which went into effect March 17 and is set to expire April 7, are in ongoing talks about potentially extending the current order to May 1, according to multiple sources familiar with those discussions.

well my aunt is not gonna be happy about this.

hateradio · Mar 30, 2020

I definitely didn't expect anything different.

May 1st was the time that SF was going to lift its ban on bars/restaurants.

m_shortpants · Mar 30, 2020

While many people are adhering, there are still enough idiots out there who think shelter in place is an excuse for a day off, that you can still go to the beach or a hike.

It's unfortunate.

Miletius · Mar 30, 2020

Bay area is doing a good job with shelter in place. Sure, there are a few people who are being dumb, but I don't think going to a trail or a beach is inherently bad, it's just bad if the area is crowded. A moot point anyways, since most places are closing down.

Cases in SF are 340 as of yesterday and considering that we got cases just after Washington got bad we are doing pretty fantastic all things considered. The story is mostly the same across the Bay Area.

PanickyFool · Mar 30, 2020

What does it feel like to have a good mayor and governor?

Asking for a friend.

Miletius · Mar 31, 2020

Looks like order is going to be extended to 5/1 soon.

carlsojo · Mar 31, 2020

We're gonna get through this Bay Area Era.

Bay Erea?

Darknight · Mar 31, 2020

Looks like we're doing pretty good; 8 of 9 counties got rated an A for social distancing.

Eight of nine Bay Area counties get an "A" for staying put.

Best: San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara counties saw a more than 60% decrease in distance traveled.

Solano County fared the worst but still receives a "B" with a 37% decrease in distance traveled.

Overall in California, urban counties are faring better at staying put and rural counties are seeing more movement.

Coronavirus: Bay Area Social Distancing Graded by County

For anyone wondering how the Bay Area is doing overall in terms of social distancing, there’s a map for that.

www.nbcbayarea.com

Midramble · Mar 31, 2020

I feel like the bay should implement an additional stimulus package to help the service industry workers here. SF already had impacted local businesses before the pandemic. A lot of them are not going to make it through this and there are only some many gift certificates the public can buy to support.

PanickyFool · Mar 31, 2020

Miletius said:
Looks like order is going to be extended to 5/1 soon.

A city not run by idiots.

Looking at you NY.

shazrobot · Mar 31, 2020

Midramble said:
I feel like the bay should implement an additional stimulus package to help the service industry workers here. SF already had impacted local businesses before the pandemic. A lot of them are not going to make it through this and there are only some many gift certificates the public can buy to support.

My hours got cut to 8 a week from 32 (I'm also a part-time student). The stimulus check will pay one months rent. I already filed for (partial) unemployment benefits, but I don't know if I qualify for the extra $600 being handed out because I'm not full time at the moment, I could be really fucked.

Domino Theory · Mar 31, 2020

carlsojo said:
We're gonna get through this Bay Area Era.

Bay Erea?

The perpetual isolation's been extremely rough and taxing mentally and emotionally, but it's necessary. Bay Erea represent!

Charizard · Mar 31, 2020

shazrobot said:
My hours got cut to 8 a week from 32 (I'm also a part-time student). The stimulus check will pay one months rent. I don't know if I qualify for the extra $600 being handed out because I'm not full time at the moment, I could be really fucked.

You don't need to be full time to qualify usually. You just need your hours to be reduced a certain amount below your average hours.

perfectchaos007 · Mar 31, 2020

Miletius said:
Looks like order is going to be extended to 5/1 soon.

What a name!

Dalek · Mar 31, 2020

Darknight said:
Looks like we're doing pretty good; 8 of 9 counties got rated an A for social distancing.

Coronavirus: Bay Area Social Distancing Graded by County

For anyone wondering how the Bay Area is doing overall in terms of social distancing, there’s a map for that.

www.nbcbayarea.com

We're Number One!

Miletius · Apr 11, 2020

So what we feared might happen for a while finally did. Overall I think SF has been doing a commendable job in controlling the spread of COVID, but it was only a matter of time before the disease would start sweeping through the housing insecure population.

SFDPH has done a great job in containing the spread but the homeless has been such a blind spot in their plan. Anecdotally, I made the mistake ordering pickup from the Tenderloin last week and I am surprised that this sort of thing hasn't happened sooner.

OtterMatic · Apr 29, 2020

New order will extend the stay in home order until end of May in six Bay Area counties, including Santa Clara and San Francisco. It seems the new orders will allow some more activities, but still require most to stay in home.

edit:
ABC7: 6 Bay Area counties relax some shelter-in-place restrictions; here are changes starting May 4

On Monday, Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo, and Santa Clara counties, as well as the City of Berkeley, which has its own public health department, announced an extension of the stay-at-home orders through May 31.

Starting May 4, a few activities that were previously banned will be permitted.

"All construction activities, certain businesses that operate primarily outdoors, and some outdoor activities will be allowed to resume with specific conditions," Bay Area public health officials said in a joint press release.

carlsojo · Apr 29, 2020

OtterMatic said:
New order will extend the stay in home order until end of May in six Bay Area counties, including Santa Clara and San Francisco. It seems the new orders will allow some more activities, but still require most to stay in home.

Construction can resume which is absolutely fantastic news for those workers.

Darknight · Apr 29, 2020

OtterMatic said:
New order will extend the stay in home order until end of May in six Bay Area counties, including Santa Clara and San Francisco. It seems the new orders will allow some more activities, but still require most to stay in home.

edit:
ABC7: 6 Bay Area counties relax some shelter-in-place restrictions; here are changes starting May 4

I had no idea gardeners were supposed to stop work. I've seen plenty continue on since this all started. It makes sense when you think about it, but it doesn't seem like anyone stopped doing it.

jvalioli · Apr 29, 2020

Darknight said:
I had no idea gardeners were supposed to stop work. I've seen plenty continue on since this all started. It makes sense when you think about it, but it doesn't seem like anyone stopped doing it.

The messaging on the order has been pretty poor. I think there are a lot of things going on that are in violation but appear to be a gray area.

Septimus Prime · Apr 29, 2020

Darknight said:
I had no idea gardeners were supposed to stop work. I've seen plenty continue on since this all started. It makes sense when you think about it, but it doesn't seem like anyone stopped doing it.

I think a lot of them didn't know, but Santa Clara County is fining them up to $1000 if they are caught working, so ours just stopped coming.

hateradio · Apr 30, 2020

I am looking forward to seeing what will be allowed, but I'm not hoping for much.

How have all of you been doing? Staying in doors? Breaking all the rules? Diving into corona infested open campaigns?

Midramble · Apr 30, 2020

hateradio said:
I am looking forward to seeing what will be allowed, but I'm not hoping for much.

How have all of you been doing? Staying in doors? Breaking all the rules? Diving into corona infested open campaigns?

Working on hobbies. Wife and I have been indoors with the exception of laundry and groceries for weeks. Other exception was renting a zipcar on the 8th for our 5 year anniversary and seeing sights from inside but that's it. To unwind and get fresh air we've been heading to our apartment roof to take in the city and the park.

Dreamwriter · Apr 30, 2020

Darknight said:
I had no idea gardeners were supposed to stop work. I've seen plenty continue on since this all started. It makes sense when you think about it, but it doesn't seem like anyone stopped doing it.

They were only supposed to stop work on doing things just for appearance. But if you let grass grow too long it can get insects, rodents and snakes, if you let tree branches grow too long they can be a danger, so a certain amount of gardening is actually allowed.

carlsojo · Apr 30, 2020

hateradio said:
I am looking forward to seeing what will be allowed, but I'm not hoping for much.

How have all of you been doing? Staying in doors? Breaking all the rules? Diving into corona infested open campaigns?

Miiiiseeerrraaaable. I'm so bored.

Wouldn't say I've broken all the rules but I've definitely made some non-essential Target trips.

I've finished FF7 Remake and I'm about 3/4 of the way through P5 Royal.

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