It's primarily children stomping about because people didn't like the thing they liked and that makes them mad 😡
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Setting the record straight: The message of The Last Jedi was *NOT* "Let the past die".
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He didn't take his clothes, either, but he has those. Maybe he just likes his stick and wants it in the Force Zone.
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Why does Obiwan sit on a tree and why aren't force ghosts naked?
It would be weird if Luke or Leia had a large role in RoS, but I guess there's no rule saying force ghosts can't be major characters.
To be clear, I don't care if the old characters die or not, (although I felt Luke's death was unnecessary) but you can't fault people thinking "let the past die" is a theme of TLJ when it kills off 4 characters. Plus "letting the past die" isn't necessarily a bad thing, and in the case of Snoke/Phasma it's a good thing, so we can give Kylo partial credit.
They should've given him back his hover seat.
"In my opinion" just needs to be a hard macro on the Create Post function
Is this "Sheev" thing some kind of hipster cool person gimmick on ERA?
Is this "Sheev" thing some kind of hipster cool person gimmick on ERA?
I love how this moment, accident or not, told us that Force ghosts have the ability to interact with the physical world.If he's a force ghost, why does Obi-Wan need to sit?
Clothes are one thing, sure but Vader didn't come back scarred and limbless..
He has ghostly arthritis going on lol
100%, probably took it from a table in Luke's hut holding up his valuables.
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Puh-lease
You nurse on the sour grapes of your clusterfuck of a trilogy more than Luke sucks the delicious blue milk from a sea creatures nipple.
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You really can fault that logic when literally the message of the film is said by a character from the past.
Kylo is a walking talking example of the following quote:
Hence his "let it all die" speech being followed by him immediately repeating the past:
Kylo makes no valid points in TLJ.
Yoda doesn't have vanity problems. He died an old, limping man and he was fine showing up as one.
I think the most annoying thing is when people essentially say "I didn't get it" = "the film did a bad job explaining it's themes." As if it's the fault of the film that they decided, "you know this space nazi guy is making some good points rn."
I'm probably naive but I'm kinda predicting that TROS won't be nearly as crazy. The Mandalorian will be wrapping up its first season about the same time TROS comes out also so it'll be interesting to see what people think of that.
Xerxes of Persia once said, "there are only two messages- the one we send — and the one they hear"*
* i made it up but it sounds rite
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Same thing happened in the lead up to Endgame round here with MCU threads.
You really can fault that logic when literally the message of the film is said by a character from the past.
Kylo is a walking talking example of the following quote:
Hence his "let it all die" speech being followed by him immediately repeating the past:
Kylo makes no valid points in TLJ.
Well he didn't say "forget the past," he said "let it die," which is a metaphor and I take to mean "let the past go" or "move on from the past." For instance, Luke's recent past has been not helping his friends and family, and he "lets it die" by choosing to help.
Maybe I'm not getting my point across without using loads of jpgs...
Let it all die means forget. Even if we take it to mean "move on from the past." Kylo is absolutely incapable of doing that.
And shouldn't be listened to.
uh, yes? that's how it's always worked. remember in jaws when they said they needed a bigger boat and then didn't get one? the shark ate the boat and the main characters were dumb to stay on the boat, which is why they all died. don't like the moral? deal with it.
Also that you should create a perimeter around survivors.
"The moral of ET is that the government should've gotten ET at the end."
Clearly the moral of ROTS is the droid attack on the wookies is the most important matter of all and that the jedi are evil. Anakin seems like a fine lad to be listening to when he says that line after all. Hell, ROTS would be more interesting if Obiwan or Padme joined Anakin when he became evil. 😃
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sure but how long are we going to judge all his works based on just the brothers bloom?
i thought it was that they're taking the hobbits to Isengard
I don't remember whatever line you're referring to so you're objectively wrong.
Pretty sure it's the Bonkers Principal most people just say it because it dumb but sounds funny.
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It was one of the many confused messages of the film (alongside Learn from failure, Love but do not sacrifice, and The Force is for Everyone), all stupid and all very badly portrayed as featuring both sides of the coin in positive lights for practically every "message" the movie would try to carry (like when Rose utters the childish lines to Finn, after her own sister saved the fleet, Holdo saved the fleet, and Luke saved what's left, all by sacrificing themselves, whereas without Luke's intervention Rose saving Finn to kiss him would have likely doomed them).
Oh, yes. War profiteers bad too (and save animals!). Except again the film goes out of it's way to show that it's pointless, as per example when outlined that the Resistance is one of the profiteers' bigest clients.
A complete and utter thematic mess.
Oh, yes. War profiteers bad too (and save animals!). Except again the film goes out of it's way to show that it's pointless, as per example when outlined that the Resistance is one of the profiteers' bigest clients.
A complete and utter thematic mess.
Let it all die means forget. Even if we take it to mean "move on from the past." Kylo is absolutely incapable of doing that.
And shouldn't be listened to.
I'll agree that Kylo at the end is absolutely not a role model, but the concept of letting old things die is not inherently bad. I think a lot of the audience wanted to let the past die and hoped for the movie/trilogy to do something really fresh after that scene, and then it gave us nu-ATATs on a white planet. So one theme of the movie is 'keep milking the old things."
A lot of the audience should've paid attention to the damn movie instead of waiting for wish fulfillment. 🍵
The issue is considering it to be a message of TLJ in the first place.