I'll always be upset that we never got a cyberelf war game. The potential there is just begging to be tapped.
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Sequels that ruined the overall story and characters of a series
- Thread starter Baphomet
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This right here -- Lloyd's suddenly now a pervy womanizer? Heeeeeeeell no!
Garbage sequel to a game I cherish; thankfully, I just pretend it doesn't exist -- a state of mind graciously granted by Namco digitally splitting the remasters.
Metroid Other M was so terrible story-wise that I kind of just have to pretend it doesn't count
also every time somebody talks about giving another nintendo character like Link full voice acting for the first time, I think of Other M and am just like, "nah, I"m good."
also every time somebody talks about giving another nintendo character like Link full voice acting for the first time, I think of Other M and am just like, "nah, I"m good."
It wouldn't save the game itself, but I have to wonder whether a better localization and a redub with believable voice acting would have made the story a little easier to swallow.
As it is, Samus in Other M is basically the spiritual predecessor of MCU Captain Marvel.
this is an unbelievable and uncalled for slander of Captain Marvel
Tales of Xillia 2.
First game was a quite good jrpg, with one of my favorite casts from last gen. The game was rushed and felt unfinished at the end, but I still liked it very much.
2nd one was a disaster, and did a tremendous disservice with the original main cast.
First game was a quite good jrpg, with one of my favorite casts from last gen. The game was rushed and felt unfinished at the end, but I still liked it very much.
2nd one was a disaster, and did a tremendous disservice with the original main cast.
I guess you're talking about how
Klaus split in two and Zanza is just his evil half? You think they might try to write that stuff into Xenoblade 1 remake?
I like Cross more as a story and a piece of art, but I like Trigger a lot more as an actual game. I love em both though
This part was hilariously forced.
It did lead to some great shopped images of MGS3 though, so I can't hate it.
As someone who played the game and both liked it and wished it could be better, I'm curious as to your reasoning.
single word or single title answers are bad and should be avoided in general
One thing that really pissed me off was how a lot of people in this very forum were saying that XBC 1 and 2 weren't connected directly, yet that is a very massive connection that ruined the reveal for me in part 1 since I fully completed part 2 despite only being maybe 75% done with part 1, all because of that lie.
That's what I came to say. It really destroyed completely the genious of MGS2
V3 has the good sense to not actually be canon to the other games
3, on the other hand? fuck that shit into oblivion
My biggest issue with Chrono Cross was the story.
"You remember Chrono Trigger? You remember the characters you love? You remember how you worked hard to save the world and time from Lavos? Well forget all of that. All of your heroes are failures! They accomplished nothing in Trigger because they failed and space time ended up in ruins anyway! Enjoy!"
Starcraft 2 for me. I actually still like it (the core gameplay) but the story and lore went from a 9 to a 3 for me.
I don't know how they even managed to to that. Self sabotage? What were they thinking?
Also: I also disliked what they did to Halo 2, it felt very different to 1 (also looked different, even worse). I know people love it but I can see it as what it is, a result of multiple cuts and constraints. It shows.
I don't know how they even managed to to that. Self sabotage? What were they thinking?
Also: I also disliked what they did to Halo 2, it felt very different to 1 (also looked different, even worse). I know people love it but I can see it as what it is, a result of multiple cuts and constraints. It shows.
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While Assassin's Creed III was the culmination of this, it was pretty obvious that Ubisoft had no idea what they wanted to do with the modern day plot and characters (plot threads/characters which I will always maintain were good and interesting at the beginning) as early as Brotherhood, when they
killed off Lucy
This would only be true if MCU Captain Marvel genuinely insisted that Yon-Rogg was the real hero that Carol should be subservient to and get permission from, and also if Other M was one of Samus's earliest missions ever instead of canonically being her 2nd-to-last so far...
Other M is just... ugh. Better voice acting and localization could have made it marginally more bearable to listen to, but the end result is still insufferably sexist, unhealthy, and degrading. You could cast Jennifer Hale as Samus again and Troy Baker as Adam and it still would really suck.
Mass Effect 3 ruined Harbinger and the Illusive Man.
Halo 4 and Halo 5 ruined Cortana, the Covenant and Jul Madma.
Resident Evil 7 ruined Chris Redfield.
Halo 4 and Halo 5 ruined Cortana, the Covenant and Jul Madma.
Resident Evil 7 ruined Chris Redfield.
Was Harbinger that big of a thing thought? I mean, most of Mass Effect 2 is just filler story, good filler but i just a stop gap to 3.
Harbinger was the leader of the Reapers. He was the oldest and the most powerful of the fleet. He was the main enemy of Shepard. Its hatred toward Shepard in ME2 was very personal.
Then he almost disapears in ME3, goes silent, doesn't destroy the Normandy when he could do so, fails to kill Shepard despite a direct hit in his head with his main weapon and got killed by a ghost child out of nowhere.
Wolfenstein The New Order was amazing. So was The Old Blood. The New Collosus got...weird and I didn't care for the story at all outside of a handful of set piece moments that were pretty cool. Youngblood doesn't exist and nobody can convince me otherwise.
Final Fantasy XIII-2. Because it allowed characters and story to continue from FFXIII, when it should have never been allowed to.
I thought Okamiden was an alright thing too. It felt like Okami on a budget so it's not like they could change the setting entirely based on the ending of Okami. Not much about the time traveling plot seems like it even impacts the overall lore as things return to the status quo at the end. Unlike other stories mentioned which dramatically alter the trajectory of the plot at least.
Yes exactly.
I really saw that part as lazy quick writing in the same way the game had to be "rushed", having the worst performance and needing tons of updates.
There was no need to link both stories and I think the game's story would have worked better if it really tried 100% its own thing.
Mechas felt conpletely unnecessary for the first time.
There was no need to link both stories and I think the game's story would have worked better if it really tried 100% its own thing.
Mechas felt conpletely unnecessary for the first time.
But in the end I could have swallowed it more easily if it had the gameplay of 1 or X. Musics were not enough. Also, the characters were almost all jokes, in the litteral sense, as if we had 3 or 4 rikis, 3 to 5 Tatsu in the group.
And as much as one can lighten the mood, it was too much for me.
The villains looked like a more interesting group to follow. Or at least, less annoying.
Golden Sun Dark Dawn.
Mind you, the game was not necessarily bad. I would argue that more work was put into it than many entries in this topic.
Thing is, it doesn't handle a candle to the GBA games, and now I'm afraid the series is deader than dead.
Mind you, the game was not necessarily bad. I would argue that more work was put into it than many entries in this topic.
Thing is, it doesn't handle a candle to the GBA games, and now I'm afraid the series is deader than dead.
I always thought it was super bizarre that Bionic Commando 2009 made Super Joe - the hero of the original Commando and the guy you rescue in the first BC game - the villain.
Then again, the plot is bonkers regardless. (Great game mechanically however)
Then again, the plot is bonkers regardless. (Great game mechanically however)
Game's not out yet, but the fact that TLOU2 is a continuation, and some of the things Neil Druckmann has said about how the plot connects to the first game, has already ruined the first game for me.
All things considered, i'm still not a big fan of Old Snake in MGS4. There was just too much there that just wasn't to my liking for what is one of my favorite characters of all time. Thankfully that version of snake isn't the poster boy of his iconic status so it's not too bad.
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