Which is unfortunately true for the vast majority of all recent products and innovations reaching people's lives, technological or otherwise.
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Self-Driving Mercedes Will Be Programmed To Sacrifice Pedestrians To Save The Driver
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Which is unfortunately true for the vast majority of all recent products and innovations reaching people's lives, technological or otherwise.
Tbh, the logic in the article kinda makes sense. This isn't really a trolley problem cause we dont know if you can even save the people outside the vehicle. The logic seems to be that the person in the car has a binary fate; whereas the people outside do not.
Rather interesting regardless. Still better than a human driver who would inevitably fuck all sides of the situation up and kill everyone in their path.
Rather interesting regardless. Still better than a human driver who would inevitably fuck all sides of the situation up and kill everyone in their path.
Putting people in prison after an accident happens doesn't actually do anything to stop the accident since it already happened.Saying that you don't want the technology to exist because it's harder to punish someone if things go wrong even if it will most likely lead to way less people dying overall seems really petty and vindictive
I'd also appreciate an option to allow the car to sacrifice my life if in so doing it can save the Protoss homeworld.
I think it would make people think twice before buying one.
I don't think anyone would go to jail if their self driving car malfunctioned unless they were modding the programming or something. Pretty clear that if anyone was held culpable it'd be the company behind the program
let's assume you're the driver with your wife and four of your kids are in the Merc. What would you do? And finally, what would you expect the AI to do in that case?
This is a perfectly good decision. No way should my car flip my family off a bridge because some suicidal dude jumps in the way.
This of course is the only reason someone would be walking in a street against a light...
"Will be programmed to sacrifice pedestrians"
The article does a great job of fear mongering a bit, especially when it provides the Trolley problem as a real world scenario that most likely will not happen.
Here's some tidbits about safety features and ethical concerns of self driving cars.
What researchers found when they essentially quizzed people on the Trolley problem as well is basically you save more lives than the few.
The article does a great job of fear mongering a bit, especially when it provides the Trolley problem as a real world scenario that most likely will not happen.
Here's some tidbits about safety features and ethical concerns of self driving cars.
What researchers found when they essentially quizzed people on the Trolley problem as well is basically you save more lives than the few.
If y'all don't count any fatalities caused by these vehicles as deaths explicitly done under capitalism then you do not understand economics.
Except potentially way more efficiently and safely.
This thread was worth it for the replies though.
Some of you have some weird hope about machines and AI. I've witnessed plenty of tech go to shit for non-attributable reasons. Somehow coming to terms that a hairline fracture across the public space now defines life and death is a frightening jump for me.
The average human driver is fucking awful and doesn't deserve anyone's trust
This is the thing that really gets me. There's almost no circumstance in which a car is in danger of hitting a pedestrian and the driver is most likely to face certain death, unless either the driver or, for God knows what reason, the autopilot is driving irresponsibly. Favoring the driver here is Mercedes writing a check that they SHOULDN'T be able to catch. I didn't think I'd see a more obvious technofascist wet dream than the cybertruck this year, but here we are.
I'm not talking about an accident. I'm talking about a situation where beyond reasonable doubt the AI was negligent. Who goes to jail? If no one then we're just disseminating responsibility to the point where no one is responsible for deaths
I think you're missing the part where humans as we already are are already terrible drivers as a whole, and while tech malfunctions may be a thing, this technology won't realistically be greenlit for public use until it's significantly safer than the typical human driver anyways
If there was negligence in the coding of the AI then any reasonable person would put the liability on the company responsible. It's not particularly hard to figure out
Regulation will be a human input. Bugtest all you want. One is negligence, one is design. One is a moment, the other a purpose. We're coming hot off the heels off the 737 max here.
uh plenty of people have been killed by trains
Around 7200 pedestrians have been killed by trains since 1997
Except it is, the article explains that AI will chose to save the drivers in any scenario but it's ''ok'' because it will pose significantly less danger than human drivers.
-Mercedes's von Hugo, then, thinks that the ethical problems will be outweighed by the fact that cars will be better drivers overall. "There are situations that today's driver can't handle, that . . . we can't prevent today and automated vehicles can't prevent, either. The self-driving car will just be far better than the average human driver,"
Has Boeing been charged with criminal negligence? I genuinely don't know.
I'm finding it hilarious how you seem to think it's more ok if many people are dying due to incompetence rather than a few people dying due to a decision making protocol who would probably die anyways if a human was behind the wheel
Maybe we should be more focused on how to prevent accidents from happening in the first place rather than being vindictive assholes who care more about punishing people than saving lives?
They should make it so the driver can toggle a setting to prioritize drivers or pedestrians.
Then make that setting public.
Then make that setting public.