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Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice |OT| Prepare to 死
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i'm with you farmable ammo being pointless and not a big fan of the consumables either. But I think the stealth is very well done and really well implemented into the combat loop. It doesn't feel primitive. I feel like I have most of the standard sneak and kill options from every other stealth game I've played, and it moves so much faster than most stealth games. You can straight up sprint behind people and still backstab them. The simplified "alerted" phase seems very deliberate to get you back to action mode quickly. I was actually really surprised how lenient that is. I think it succeeds in making you feel like a badass while also facilitating exploration in a way the souls games never encouraged
The last boss...
4 phases really? Having to redo that first phase needlessly tilts me when all I want to do is learn the real fight.
She definitely is farting right? I was like "excuse me?" the first time that attack happened.....
How do you time the lightning reflect against Genichiro? I jump in the air and spam R1 but it doesn't seem to work. I land and get shock anyway
There is usually a cut-scene or the boss talking before the fight. The mini-bosses just start fighting.
Main bosses (so far for me at least) have cutscenes, you get a 'shinobi execution' message when you kill them, and they drop memory fragments that you can use to increase attack power.
If there's a shinobi execution then it's a big boss. At least that's how I think about it.
Yeah, I also remember being really miffed when the first General was dealing so much more posture damage to me than I was to him with what I felt were well timed parries (had no issues with the cannon fodder enemies) and thinking the fight was nigh impossible. I'm definitely going to try and learn enemy patterns better moving forward by using a blocking stance and/or playing more defensively, as well, and hopefully using/timing them well and at apt times moving forward.
Survivability certainly seems key to learning for this game - especially for someone like me who seemingly has poor reaction times (or at least as far as this game is concerned).
The Ape was a lot easier than I thought he would be after reading this thread.
The boss after him though?
The boss after him though?
I don't think the game itself really distinguishes but I think people are deeming the "official" bosses the ones that:
- Have a fog wall behind them / lock you in
- Have a cutscene before them
- Are fought one on one
- You can't sneak attack
- Have a special execution animation
- Upgrade your attack power
They don't all meet all of those criteria but that's kind of what "boss boss" means.
Bosses end with a shinobi execution and give you an attack boost. Stuff like the ogre are just mini bosses.
So what are everyone's thoughts on
Guardian Ape?
I beat it after many attempts but that second phase is a slog. I think it nearly ruins the fight. I'm literally parrying/blocking and then running away. Get two pokes in and repeat. Let's not forget the Roar of Doom either which punishes trying to be aggressive. Absolutely annoying.
First phase was hard but better.
I beat it after many attempts but that second phase is a slog. I think it nearly ruins the fight. I'm literally parrying/blocking and then running away. Get two pokes in and repeat. Let's not forget the Roar of Doom either which punishes trying to be aggressive. Absolutely annoying.
First phase was hard but better.
Haha fuck the double team ape power hour. Was tough and very aggressive with only one. Two makes me feel like I was a pinball.
Got through it with firecracker thankfully, but holy shit. Also kind of makes me laugh looking at the posts about the first ape now.
Got through it with firecracker thankfully, but holy shit. Also kind of makes me laugh looking at the posts about the first ape now.
This. They should have had a system like with the Gourdes. Everytime you rest you refill spirit emblems and some other items. These games are so good that you don't need the grinding aspect of it. Being stuck at a boss is punishing enough. Out of confettis and mad for not beating the boss that requires confettis? Well sorry, you will have to grind for 30 minutes+ to refill them, then try again. Ugh. Terrible game design.
amazing, beautiful, with some terrible backtracking at a certain part.
Probably my favorite FROM game.
Should I try Nioh if I loved this?
Man, every successive day I go back to this game, I feel like such a god damn badass. My first day was a steep learning curve against puny enemies and a struggle against that first samurai. My second day led to a brick wall when I found the Drunkard. My third day led to massive breakthroughs and taking down three bosses! Then today, I rip through two more bosses and take on an entire group of enemies AND a samurai simultaneously while getting shot at from afar.
Holy shit! This game is like a childhood fantasy ninja simulator!
Holy shit! This game is like a childhood fantasy ninja simulator!
Many thanx again, this did the trick for me, he's down! :) For anyone stuck on the bull, this is the best tactic for me. I'm proud I didn't give up.
Yo. Lady Butterfly's second phase hurts my soul. I don't know what I'm supposed to do about the things that attack me.
haha,
I think I have seen this type of repetition in other japanese media as well.
Even the most recent Haruki Murakami book suffered from a protagonist that would repeat every piece of new information
given to him.
Thought of a few more:
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice | OT2 | Get Resurrekt
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice | OT2 | Parries in Springtime
Personally, I would say no, but I never found Nioh to be as engaging as some others did who praised the combat. This game is leagues ahead. That's just my biased opinion.
One thing that's intersting to me is that, for some of these bosses, I actually really enjoy speed-running back to the boss. It's so much less tedious than Souls with the movement speed, grapple, and lack of real fall damage. For example for the centipede miniboss I had my route down running the whole time, barely touching the ground. It feels kinda fun to 'master' some of these runs. The idol placement before most bosses is pretty generous too
Nioh is much MUCH closer to Dark Souls than Sekiro is, so if you enjoyed it then yes.
The world design isn't anywhere close to From Software's pedigree, but the combat system is pretty fun and there's some pretty memorable boss battles.
That said, I remember it being easy once you got past the third boss; but that's mostly because I specced into magic and magic was BROKEN.
2nd phase wasn't so bad imo. A lot of his sword attacks can be jumped and, if you see him preparing the roar, you have enough time to run away.
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At times the game does make me legit worried about the future of From's games in terms of challenge. This is pushing me to the limit, and then Ringed City and Old Hunters were also like.... insane challenge. If they take it even further I am honestly a bit scared I will literally just not be able to experience their games anymore, haha.
It's what I did first for like 10 tries and did not have clear openings, I mean I got some probably but really short and got punished.
I have no issue with the headless alone, and as soon as Ill manage to kill the add once Ill win the fight, but I never killed him.
But my 3 tries today were alright, I actually tried both methods today and got close, Ill keep at it :)
I switched to the English VO out of curiosity this morning. No; that lasted for about thirty seconds before exiting the game and resetting to the default, superior (IMO) Japanese tracks.
There's an item you can get called a Snap Seed that will pretty much insta kill every apparition around you, but you only get 1 by talking to the dude right before the boss area, there's 5 more in the valley with the giant white snake.
If you don't wanna blow your snap seeds on her, if you run to the opposite end of the arena eventually she'll dispel the ghosts and turn them into projectiles.
The hardest boss in the entire game for me up to this point was that stupid gunner miniboss on the way to the Gun Fort. efffffff
Awww, that's a shame.
Also I think this is a lock for the best game story this year. I just loved the narrative, the subtle lore, and having restrained cinematography and choreography during cutscenes is a breath of fresh air after the excessive everything of DMCV.
They go away after a while. Theyll all turn into homing lasers when she dispels them. So just run around like a doofus until she dispels them then do your best to dodge the homing bullet hell that comes after.
You straight up have to stop hitting her for this strategy to work and shes gonna recover her stance a bit though. Go beastmode any time she doesnt have shadows out for this to work.
Nioh is imo the closest attempt to a From quality game but it struggles in story department (which is complete nonsense) and enemy variety (it works kinda like DOOM where you always fight the same enemy plus one new addition per lvl). I still rank Nioh's combat as the best thi gen has offered but everything else is one or two steps bellow From's games (level design is good but not even close to this insane level of crafting).
You may like Nioh, but I don't think liking one implies liking the other. I really didn't care for Nioh for instance, but am absolutely loving sekiro.
When do you need to press R1 exactly to reflect Genichiro's lightning? As soon as i get hit doesn't seem to work, nor does spamming
Just finished the game (tried to nearly 100% it, so lots of exploring and messing around). Took 35 hours but I could have beaten the game in 25 or less.
Excellent game with some issues. The primary being lots of reused content especially in latter half of the game. And difficulty is mostly front ended and dependent on what content you do when. Final boss wasn't too bad for me, just took long to beat (around 10 mins per attempt). Peak difficulty spikes for me were Lady Butterfly and the boss on top of Ashina Castle as well as a major optional boss. The first two I definitely seemed to have fought them a bit earlier than they were designed for and I was still learning the ropes of the system and optimum way to fight.
Minibosses were extremely frustrating especially when some of them you had to fight them 4 times. One in particular was the Long Swordsman... smfh.
There is also quite some missable content in the game depending on what you have beaten at that point because of state changes. Definitely need to go through again with a full guide. I maxed out two Prosthetics, 3 of the skill trees final skill and a couple of the end game moves. Killed all mini bosses, headless and bosses I could find.
Excellent game with some issues. The primary being lots of reused content especially in latter half of the game. And difficulty is mostly front ended and dependent on what content you do when. Final boss wasn't too bad for me, just took long to beat (around 10 mins per attempt). Peak difficulty spikes for me were Lady Butterfly and the boss on top of Ashina Castle as well as a major optional boss. The first two I definitely seemed to have fought them a bit earlier than they were designed for and I was still learning the ropes of the system and optimum way to fight.
Minibosses were extremely frustrating especially when some of them you had to fight them 4 times. One in particular was the Long Swordsman... smfh.
There is also quite some missable content in the game depending on what you have beaten at that point because of state changes. Definitely need to go through again with a full guide. I maxed out two Prosthetics, 3 of the skill trees final skill and a couple of the end game moves. Killed all mini bosses, headless and bosses I could find.
I can parry most of his second phase attacks without problem and always have time to run out of his scream. Not completely out but only take mostly 1/6 hp dmg. With an umbrella it is even easier.
You need to learn the skill by killing the guy in the dojo. You must be in the air to do the counter.
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