Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice |OT| Prepare to 死

robotzombie · Mar 25, 2019

Can you parry while swinging your own sword? Like as I'm in attack animations, try to time parries with L1? I could have sworn I felt that working, but maybe it is just getting the right time in between sword strikes?

I'm just wondering if I should be constantly swinging and then just focus on parrying as I'm attacking...

RecLib · Mar 25, 2019

So I have the first three bosses down and want to farm some skill points to get a final skill tree ability for mister tengu mask.

Where do people find is the best farming spot at this point in the game? Right now I'm doing resevoir.

Out_Of_Ammo · Mar 25, 2019

Patazord said:
Yes it's easy to avoid, the game will give you a choice at one point and one of them is a mega obvious " mega bad end route ", but if you want to avoid it's the bottom choice to not miss anything.

Gotcha, thanks!

Grudy · Mar 25, 2019

They can fuck off with Guardian Ape. God damn what am I supposed to do here? Is there a trick or is it really this much a war of attrition?

Eien1no1Yami · Mar 25, 2019

Patazord said:
What do you mean by that, ALL of them ?

Yes ALL of them xD.
You can only go in the first are of the game where you upgraded your arm.

Tangyn · Mar 25, 2019

Blade Wolf said:
HOW

Yea me too.

First REAL try after about 50 practice tries but yea first try for me too :D

Deleted member 8561 · Mar 25, 2019

Ryo said:
The game seems a little too easy and handholdy after 2/3 hours. You can easily escape a fight, lots of spawn points and of course the revive option.

Overall I am enjoying it though, so far it's a 8-9/10 for me.

I saw someone quote this

The bolded is the developers luring you into a major trap, which by now I'm sure you realize.

Patazord · Mar 25, 2019

Eien1no1Yami said:
Yes ALL of them xD.
You can only go in the first are of the game where you upgraded your arm.

I restarted a new game + right away so i cant check right now, maybe you have to talk to somebody first in the area ? did you check the shortcut on the wall ?

Jimnymebob · Mar 25, 2019

I have the

Dragonrot droplet and recovery charm now? Should I use this now, or wait 'til more people i meet get infected?

Deleted member 984 · Mar 25, 2019

Chronospherics said:
Just isolate and kite them and figure out their attacks. Kiting and forcing them to whiff is pretty safe. It doesn't provide you attack opportunities but it lets you figure out what their gameplan is.

Yup. Took down first three bosses and all mini bosses until that point first or second time using this method.

CHC · Mar 25, 2019

I keep imagining a DLC where you play as...

The Sculptor

... in his prime and I really badly want it to happen. The mechanics would obviously overlap just enough to keep the game's core intact, but offer a good excuse to mix up the tools.

Deleted member 8561 · Mar 25, 2019

How on earth do you dodge the fucking lightning arrow attack

Ryo · Mar 25, 2019

TheLostBigBoss said:
I saw someone quote this

The bolded is the developers luring you into a major trap, which by now I'm sure you realize.

Yep.

Grudy · Mar 25, 2019

TheLostBigBoss said:
How on earth do you dodge the fucking lightning arrow attack

I think jumping to the side worked for me

PlanetSmasher · Mar 25, 2019

I am so sick of Guardian Ape. Even if I get to his second half I just don't understand his moveset enough to get through the fight. The flailing, indiscriminate slash attacks are impossible to parse. Why did they have to make THIS boss mandatory for progression?

Viale · Mar 25, 2019

Haha Haha

The fucking ape!? Again?! And now the asshole brings in a second ape! Why?! Why... ;-;

Deleted member 5596 · Mar 25, 2019

TheRagnCajun said:
Ok so for the bull...the only way to beat him is to unlock target, run behind for a couple swipes, rinse and repeat?

Nope, but if that works for you...

(you can parry his charges and use tools)

JMY86 · Mar 25, 2019

I should probably be working instead of reading this thread but this game has thoroughly burrowed into my head. Sekiro is completely unwilling to compromise, it repeatedly kicks your teeth in and then refuses to apologize and I can't stop thinking about it...

Tibarn · Mar 25, 2019

Grudy said:
They can fuck off with Guardian Ape. God damn what am I supposed to do here? Is there a trick or is it really this much a war of attrition?

You can parry him, which seems strange considering that he fights with the fists. It's a pretty easy boss IMO, he does 2-3 long combos that are easy to learn and his standard grab is slow and has no range.

Raide · Mar 25, 2019

Jimnymebob said:
I have the

Dragonrot droplet and recovery charm now? Should I use this now, or wait 'til more people i meet get infected?

The consensus seems to be wait it out.

Moose the Mooche · Mar 25, 2019

Why do some people put spoilers in their spoilertags?

Dartastic · Mar 25, 2019

Blade Wolf said:
HOW

I guess I've gotten good, so to speak. I attacked him until I saw the harsh spark which let me know he parried. Then, I parried or blocked back. It wasn't too bad once I got the hang of it honestly. For the last phase, I did the same thing but just dodged with circle to the right during his lightning, like a Dark Souls boss. I also don't mash attack anymore, and I have done enough exploring to get three necklace upgrades. Once you properly learn the parry system, the game really opens up.

luther manhole · Mar 25, 2019

PlanetSmasher said:
I am so sick of Guardian Ape. Even if I get to his second half I just don't understand his moveset enough to get through the fight. The flailing, indiscriminate slash attacks are impossible to parse. Why did they have to make THIS boss mandatory for progression?

I beat him by

staying midrange most of the time to avoid the AOE, parrying his 4-sword hit strike, and hoping for his big sword hit because you can parry it and stun him for like 5 seconds. i'd bring a long some of the purifying item too that removes terror build up if you can as well, helps if you get caught in that aoe. Also, just holding run and booking it away instead of dodging or jumping works best for getting out of the AOE imo

Solaris · Mar 25, 2019

PlanetSmasher said:
I am so sick of Guardian Ape. Even if I get to his second half I just don't understand his moveset enough to get through the fight. The flailing, indiscriminate slash attacks are impossible to parse. Why did they have to make THIS boss mandatory for progression?

I found the apes move set in both phases extremely predictable and mostly easy to dodge.

He has some really easy to dodge moves that leave him wide open.

Metroidfan09 · Mar 25, 2019

Man this game is some good shit! Beat the first main boss funnily enough I found the Chained Ogre harder 😂 Gone to the Estate and beat the drunk guy, just still struggling against the spear guy... even with the thrust counter.

PlanetSmasher · Mar 25, 2019

Solaris said:
I found the apes move set in both phases extremely predictable and mostly easy to dodge.

He has some really easy to dodge moves that leave him wide open.

His three hit slash combo is either a guaranteed kill or critical health every time. And it comes out so fast it's impossible to predict. I hate this fight. I hate everything about it and I just want it to go away.

Deleted member 5596 · Mar 25, 2019

PlanetSmasher said:
I am so sick of Guardian Ape. Even if I get to his second half I just don't understand his moveset enough to get through the fight. The flailing, indiscriminate slash attacks are impossible to parse. Why did they have to make THIS boss mandatory for progression?

You can block the attacks you feel is to hard to parry. Actually, the only attack you need to parry is the last one of his big combos (the ones that has a big windup). A successful parry on that one will stun him and you can get several hits.

Otherwise you can also use his jump forward lunge to easily evade to his side and get several hits. You can cheese him this way.

h8bit · Mar 25, 2019

Dartastic said:
I guess I've gotten good, so to speak. I attacked him until I saw the harsh spark which let me know he parried. Then, I parried or blocked back. It wasn't too bad once I got the hang of it honestly. For the last phase, I did the same thing but just dodged with circle to the right during his lightning, like a Dark Souls boss. I also don't mash attack anymore, and I have done enough exploring to get three necklace upgrades. Once you properly learn the parry system, the game really opens up.

Ahh, i didn't realize that they can parry and the tell for that is a loud clang. That makes sense. Gonna try to get this guy down today. Any tips for the lightning?

Grudy · Mar 25, 2019

Tibarn said:
You can parry him, which seems strange considering that he fights with the fists. It's a pretty easy boss IMO, he does 2-3 long combos that are easy to learn and his standard grab is slow and has no range.

Did you use any of the posture meter items while doing so? My posture fills up pretty fast when I'm trying to parry him.

h8bit · Mar 25, 2019

Grudy said:
Did you use any of the posture meter items while doing so? My posture fills up pretty fast when I'm trying to parry him.

Try tapping your L1 instead of just holding it down. Gotta get the timing right and it won't fill up so fast.

Dartastic · Mar 25, 2019

h8bit said:
Ahh, i didn't realize that they can parry and the tell for that is a loud clang. That makes sense. Gonna try to get this guy down today. Any tips for the lightning?

Just roll to the right like it's a dark souls boss. I didn't get hit once during that. Once you hear that loud clang and see the larger sparks STOP ATTACKING and PREPARE TO PARRY OR DODGE. That's the biggest thing I've learned and it's made the game far easier.

h8bit said:
Try tapping your L1 instead of just holding it down. Gotta get the timing right and it won't fill up so fast.

This too. I only hold mine down when I either know there's no way I can parry everything (and even still i try and tap L1) or I'm trying to get my bar down, because defending is how you lower it quickly.

Chaos2Frozen · Mar 25, 2019

Funny story, I wanted to grind a bit of experience to get a skill point before facing Genichiro, so I decided to explore the A****** D****** just a little bit. However I got so carried away that I cleared the area and enter up in the area outside S**** T*****, with the same percentage of EXP I had before plus 1 skill point =_=

Patazord · Mar 25, 2019

Grudy said:
Did you use any of the posture meter items while doing so? My posture fills up pretty fast when I'm trying to parry him.

You have to do a perfect parry or he will destroy your posture.

Masagiwa · Mar 25, 2019

Got 1 ending, 3 prayer beads and some prosthetic upgrades left for the platinum trophy.

PlanetSmasher · Mar 25, 2019

Relaxed Muscle said:
You can block the attacks you feel is to hard to parry. Actually, the only attack you need to parry is the last one of his big combos (the ones that has a big windup). A successful parry on that one will stun him and you can get several hits.

Otherwise you can also use his jump forward lunge to easily evade to his side and get several hits. You can cheese him this way.

I just can't. I can't do it. I've been trying for days and all of his attacks look the fucking same. I can't tell any of them apart and half of them hit behind him so even if I manage to get out of his way he just sweeps me to death anyway.

I just want it to be over. It's literally the only thing I have left to do now and I just want it to be over.

Grahf · Mar 25, 2019

It's hard, it gets my hands trembling way more than I'd like and I'm terrified each time I encounter a new zone or enemy.
I love every minute of it and I just can't get the game our of my head.
So yeah, same as his predecessors so far, which is a good sign.

Jyrii · Mar 25, 2019

Must say that this Lady Butterfly match is really good tutorial for me. Finally started to get the combat flow. Still haven't beaten her

got my first deathblow though.

I feel like I would be able to beat her quite easily now if I had more health or could do more dmg to her health.

Lunar15 · Mar 25, 2019

Does anybody ever *not* resurrect? Is Dragonrot that big of an issue that you would want to be conservative here?

PlanetSmasher · Mar 25, 2019

Lunar15 said:
Does anybody ever *not* resurrect? Is Dragonrot that big of an issue that you would want to be conservative here?

I don't resurrect if I die on a boss' first phase. Fuck wasting time.

Blu10 · Mar 25, 2019

Metroidfan09 said:
Man this game is some good shit! Beat the first main boss funnily enough I found the Chained Ogre harder 😂 Gone to the Estate and beat the drunk guy, just still struggling against the spear guy... even with the thrust counter.

So I must have missed quite a few paths. I just beat the spear guy and I haven't encountered a boss or the drunk guy.

TransEuropaExpress · Mar 25, 2019

I can't remember where the following leads and it's driving me crazy sitting at work trying to draw a mental map of the Castle area:

Does the Great Serpent Shrine idol after that monkey snow forest area of Ashina Castle lead down to Sunken Valley?? I totally forgot and it's driving me nuts somehow not remembering how I got to that area.

luther manhole · Mar 25, 2019

Lunar15 said:
Does anybody ever *not* resurrect? Is Dragonrot that big of an issue that you would want to be conservative here?

I don't find it to be an issue at all, you get plenty of chances to remove it.

Chaos2Frozen · Mar 25, 2019

One thing I wish is that the game wasn't so in favor of being defensive.

Attacks are used to bait out parries, or the occasional poke and runs. I can't use any of these cool attacks because enemies would just block them or hyper Armour through them.

That's the same problem I had with Souls.

forgiventhrice · Mar 25, 2019

Metroidfan09 said:
Man this game is some good shit! Beat the first main boss funnily enough I found the Chained Ogre harder 😂 Gone to the Estate and beat the drunk guy, just still struggling against the spear guy... even with the thrust counter.

You get one critical hit on the spear dude if you sneak through the grass on the left. Prepare for chaos after that

catswaller · Mar 25, 2019

TransEuropaExpress said:
I can't remember where the following leads and it's driving me crazy sitting at work trying to draw a mental map of the Castle area:

Does the Great Serpent Shrine idol after that monkey snow forest area of Ashina Castle lead down to Sunken Valley?? I totally forgot and it's driving me nuts somehow not remembering how I got to that area.

yes

Patazord · Mar 25, 2019

Lunar15 said:
Does anybody ever *not* resurrect? Is Dragonrot that big of an issue that you would want to be conservative here?

Using resurrection do not trigger Dragonrot, it's only when you die ( game over, respawn)

Deleted member 11069 · Mar 25, 2019

Tophat Jones said:
He was the last thing I did last night. Perfect way to end a weekend on the new game.

I had come to terms with deflect, but that fight forced me to learn all aspects of the combat. Just learn a single move each time you face him if you have too. Eventually you'll know them all, and everytime you die it will be because you fucked up (and you will, lots). But the feeling of learning and getting better is overwhelming. And it just feels soooo good when it's all clicking.

Once you start figuring him out it's hardly about health management at all, you either are in the zone and dominating or a half second late, too antsy, etc. and get your ass beat.

Probably my favorite boss fight of all time, just because of the way how satisfying it was to learn and just slowly overcome it.

I used the loaded umbrella, you can also use prosthetic that can help whittle his posture. I didn't want to have to worry about doing an extra combo, and the umbrella made the arrows less of an issue.

Good luck!

Thanks! Time to grind some Sen to buy that Umbrella!
Also (hope no one has posted this yet)

Xarius · Mar 25, 2019

Prismatico said:
There's a trophy for beating all bosses but it'd all have to be on one file, and some are going to be exclusive to your choices and subsequent playthroughs. Otherwise yeah you could just get the endings in the first playthrough (theoretically).

Ah, is it confirmed that you need to beat every boss on the same file? If so, that certainly puts a damper on my plans.

TransEuropaExpress · Mar 25, 2019

Chaos2Frozen said:
Funny story, I wanted to grind a bit of experience to get a skill point before facing Genichiro, so I decided to explore the A****** D****** just a little bit. However I got so carried away that I cleared the area and enter up in the area outside S**** T*****, with the same percentage of EXP I had before plus 1 skill point =_=

This has been the entire game for me so far. Just a little more...just a little more this way...and suddenly I discover a new area and have no idea what I was trying to do to begin with.

I started keeping a little notebook on the table and log my "tasks" or where vendors are and shit.

supervga said:
Thanks! Time to grind some Sen to buy that Umbrella!
Also (hope no one has posted this yet)

This is fucking perfect. That's exactly what I thought when I got this item. "Oh cool, go down to a certain OHKO just to do a bit of extra damage, fuck off From".

PennyStonks · Mar 25, 2019

Cooking said:
Any reason why I can't make a backup save, get the bad ending and the achievement, and then reinsert the backup save real quick to keep going? On steam btw, just wanna make sure this would work

This works on PC.

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