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Sega says the Sega Ages games are doing better than expected outside of Japan
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I shouldn't generalize so much but both systems sold very well in Europe (outsold both NES and SNES iirc) and are especially popular in UK
Yeah, I knew that the UK was a big market for Sega.
I wish we could see the market share of Nintendo and Sega in Europe from back then!
In the UK I'd say theres a good amount especially for the listed games. Sonic was huge of course but also the Master System did decently well here with Alex Kidd coming with most systems sold. And as for Outrun I'd say virtually every half decent seaside arcade I ever went in as a kid had a cabinet.
Yeah correct me if im wrong but if M2 are the ones doing the work on these ports, don't they basically build them from the ground up for each piece of hardware the games run on?
Waiting for Virtua Racing. After that I'm only interested on G-Loc. I think 3DS line-up was better. I need more Model 1 and Model 2 games!!
Panzer Dragoon 1 & 2 are getting remakes.
Yeah, I know. I also didnt knew until not so long ago when someone randomly talked about it here, when it got announced in late 2018 I didn't heard anything about it.
What a welcome change, I'm curious as to how we got here. It feels like for the longest time being interested in retro games meant the Nintendo and Super Nintendo and not much else. More and more it feels like systems like the Mega Drive and Master System or even the TurboGrafx-16, Neo Geo, etc are getting more and more enthusiasm from a bigger audience.
I wonder what the main contributors for this might be. My first thought is the increase in indie games that point back to a lot of these originals. Another thought is emulation but I feel like if that were the biggest contributing factor interest in these kind of games would have arrived well before now. Maybe it's just that as mainstream audiences become more and more familiar with video games the enthusiasts are burrowing more and more into niche? SEGA is hardly niche, but nicher than say, Nintendo.
I wonder what the main contributors for this might be. My first thought is the increase in indie games that point back to a lot of these originals. Another thought is emulation but I feel like if that were the biggest contributing factor interest in these kind of games would have arrived well before now. Maybe it's just that as mainstream audiences become more and more familiar with video games the enthusiasts are burrowing more and more into niche? SEGA is hardly niche, but nicher than say, Nintendo.
Oh yes, please. Sega Rally collection featuring online multi for Sega Rally 1, 2 and 3 hnnngh.
:: Releases modern ports of classic games in region where SMS/MD was popular::
:: Games sell incredibly well ::
SEGA: pikachu-shocked.gif
The first one is already available and I assume 2 and 4 are planned since Nei and Rika show up in the opening animation sometimes.
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i'm not sure, you mean they port the games to natively run on the hardware? i thought they just make really good emulators.
Yes, I already have the first one and is pretty good. That's why I'm asking for the rest.
PSII and PSIV would be great but I guess they could also fix PSIII.
Do you have a source on that data?
I ask because Hamster has more games on PS4 than Switch, for example.
M2 is tiny and can only do so much. For Sega they tend to focus on just one or two platforms/initiatives at a time because that's what their workflow can handle but there is sometimes overlap. Looking back:
Sega Ages 2500 (PS2) 2005-2008
Virtual Console (Wii) 2006-2012
Sega Ages Online (360/PS3) 2012
Virtual Console (3DS) 2012-2013
3D Classics (3DS) 2012-2016
Sega Ages (NSW) 2018-ongoing
MegaDrive Mini (MD) 2019
I agree there's an opportunity on other platforms for Sega Ages (Steam in particular) but the best option for ports might be if they're outsourced to another dev. Maybe Sega West (Europe) could handle that.
Hamster announced over 1m Arcade Archives sold on Switch alone early last year. They've never given that milestone for another platform and actually they announced ACA NeoGeo across all platforms combined passed 1m around the same time (meaning Switch likely announced for the majority of that too).
I was being facetious.
Of course there are tons of fans of great, iconic Sega titles like Outrun outside of Japan. I find it a little baffling that the producers mentioned in the OP would assume otherwise.
"Why isn't M2 doing everything?!?!"
Some of you need to chillax with this sorta talk.
M2 is already working on Sega Ages, the MD/Genesis Mini, their ShotTriggers line, and various other projects.
They do a ridiculous amount of work for a small team.
Some of you need to chillax with this sorta talk.
M2 is already working on Sega Ages, the MD/Genesis Mini, their ShotTriggers line, and various other projects.
They do a ridiculous amount of work for a small team.
OK, then.
They're also working on the Castlevania and Contra collections for Konami.
A few thoughts:
- The game lineup has been pretty disappointing, with a few exceptions
- The 3D Classics line had a genuine "hook" to entice users to purchase these games
- If you're seeing greater interest outside of Japan, perhaps you should prioritize the western markets a bit more than you currently are
Disappointing sales in Japan isn't remotely surprising.
- The game lineup has been pretty disappointing, with a few exceptions
- The 3D Classics line had a genuine "hook" to entice users to purchase these games
- If you're seeing greater interest outside of Japan, perhaps you should prioritize the western markets a bit more than you currently are
Disappointing sales in Japan isn't remotely surprising.
Since nobody commented on this in this thread, I guess port begging is looked badly upon only when it is by Switch owners and not when it is for the rare thing that is only on Switch (I thought of reporting but then I'd have to include quite a few posts here including a moderator's...)
It's tempting to view the producers' comments as out-of-touch (less so for Kodama since I doubt she's that ignorant or ill-informed about overseas classic SEGA passion), but I'll give them the benefit of doubt so long as they start researching non-East Asian classic game markets more often. Many Japanese players, especially the older ones who can only play on the train to work, are likely satisfied with 3DS versions of games now getting Switch repeats, which would partially explain the disappointing sales. The other issue is that M2's having to divide staff between SEGA AGES and the Genesis Mini, at least for now, so they're not pursuing the more experimental projects which highlighted the 3DS catalog.
Yeah they've always done other retro projects and collections for other publishers too, including Konami, Capcom, Bandai Namco, Square Enix, Tozai Games, SNK, Taito, Hamster, D4 Enterprise, Nintendo and M2 themselves.
Yes, I know. They did Capcom Arcade Cabinet and Neo Geo Station last gen.
Excuse me.
I've seen SEGA's classic output belittled on ERA and the old place enough times to buy someone seriously asking that.
They tend to do both a fair bit. Most of the arcade games they released in 3D on 3DS were pretty much redone from the ground up, with the Genesis/Master System titles running on a tricked out, beefier emulator for those respective consoles. AFAIK, pretty much all the Sega Ages Switch stuff is emulation, though I believe they said obtaining Virtua Racing's original source code helped immensely in getting some of the extra features and performance improvements implemented.
Dont think putting the ages titles on "other" consoles(cause its ok to portbeg if its not for switch apparently) will help with the meh sales in Japan, considering the current marketplace there.
It is, but it's from a totally unproven studio. The originals are still absolutely worth releasing.
Has there ever been any indication that Sega Ages is going to feature Saturn games though? I see this mentioned all the time
I wonder if they ever found out that Master System was the go-to 8-bit console in Europe until the Mega Drive came along?
And yeah, Out Run was a big deal even on home computers at the time.
And yeah, Out Run was a big deal even on home computers at the time.
Yes. The reality is Switch is going to be the biggest market for Sega Ages in every major region too. The disappointment in Japan isn't a result of platform selection and if anything choosing PS4, XBO or PC instead would've resulted in even worse sales there.
If Sega and M2 hadto pick just one system then Switch was the obvious choice. And it's workingout pretty well overseas at least. Hopefully that's ti get Wave 2 greenlit.
Not sure what's funnier, Sega of Japan's shockedpikachu.gif at the popularity of Sega Ages outside of Japan, or all the shameless port begging in this thread.
I'd like to see M2 tackle more of Sega's Dreamcast and arcade libraries, myself. The Master System and Megadrive/Genesis stuff has been redone many times already; give other games more love...
I'd like to see M2 tackle more of Sega's Dreamcast and arcade libraries, myself. The Master System and Megadrive/Genesis stuff has been redone many times already; give other games more love...
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