Oh yeah, forget they are doing that. Though im expecting full 3d remakes of old sega games
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Sega of Japan as a developer in 2020 (More Yakua, less Sonic): Article on Segabits
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Sega still has Hiroshi Kawaguchi doing music for their arcade games (Sega World Drivers Champsionship has a remix of Magical Sound Showers even). He's the composer for Outrun, Fantasy Zone and Space Harrier for god sake. And he is basically gone unknown.
It's insane.
They have a lot of licensing deals going tbh.
- Bayonetta series with Nintendo
- Monster Boy with Game Atelier
- Panzer Dragoon remakes with Forever Entertainment
- Rez Infinite with Enhance Games
- Shenmue III (and IV?) with Ys Net
- Space Channel 5 VR with G-Rounding
- Streets of Rage 4 with Lizardcube
- The House of the Dead remakes with Forever Entertainment
- Wonder Boy Returns with CFK Digital
- Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap with Lizardcube
TJ&E is owned fully by the devs btw. So is Ecco now. Sega only holds (shared) rights over the games they produced but not over the IPs themselves.
Above poster just reminded me of REZ VR. If they can do that, Virtua cop is not out of the question
Oh yeah a couple of those slipped my mind. Totally forgot they had anything to do with Rez, too
Really wish they would open the doors for a few more of those more internal franchises, though. A single-player indie-developed Phantasy Star RPG could be so good.
I want Reiko and the EO-team at Atlus to do Phantasy Star V so bad. š
Not with the ports though! Give me the rest of the Yakuza games on xbox plleaaase!
Yeah, they need to slow down on Yakuza.
I have all of the mainline games and Judgment, and I'm only on Kiwami. I think I'll be set for a few years lol
If anything, I think Sonic needs some more love. Give me some remasters or something. Colors HD would be glorious
I have all of the mainline games and Judgment, and I'm only on Kiwami. I think I'll be set for a few years lol
If anything, I think Sonic needs some more love. Give me some remasters or something. Colors HD would be glorious
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Single player Phantasy Star seems like one of those things that seem more popular in the West. Doubt Atlus has an interrest sadly.
Just like with Streets of Rage, a western indie might be more passionate about it.
Yeah, too bad.
But with that strategy, the Japanese arcade sector is protected (or at least they think so). For example, the director of Border Break said in an interview that he did not agree with making a domestic version of the game because "we focus on making games for the arcades." He only gave the green light when he received messages from players who no longer had access to the nearby arcade ...
ThatĀ“s Sega's way of thinking since Sega Interactive was born.
good piece! as a yakuza fan, it's been crazy watching the series rise to the point of oversaturation, still can't wait for the next one. sonic slowing down seems like it'll change a bit with the announcements this year, no? i may still be one of the only people who kinda dug forces, but i can't wait to see what shows up.
that said, i slept on the last kart racer because dropping all the non sonic characters felt like a step backwards...still wondering how that game turned out.
the sega FES last year in tokyo was a blast! the oversized saturn controller had me hoping they'd show that system love again someday, haha. the Panzer remakes this year (?) stay high on my list.
this thread also reminded me i never imported that M2 3DS box set last gen.
god most of these so far turned out fantastic, too
that said, i slept on the last kart racer because dropping all the non sonic characters felt like a step backwards...still wondering how that game turned out.
the sega FES last year in tokyo was a blast! the oversized saturn controller had me hoping they'd show that system love again someday, haha. the Panzer remakes this year (?) stay high on my list.
this thread also reminded me i never imported that M2 3DS box set last gen.
god most of these so far turned out fantastic, too
Wow, they were a lot more than that last time I checked...
Yakuza is my favorite game franchise of all time but they need to chill a bit and make some other stuff.
Localising a 6 year old cross gen title seems like a waste of time, seeing as they are working on getting 7 out in the west
They've been remastering the old games and the new collection did pretty well it looks like, so Yakuza could actually finally be on the upswing in the West. Makes sense to bet on that.
UK Charts: PS4 exclusives Yakuza and Dreams crack Top Ten
Top 10: FIFA 20 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Yakuza Remastered Collection Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order Grand Theft Auto V Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Minecraft Dreams Luigi's Mansion 3 NBA 2K20 UK Charts: PS4 exclusives Yakuza and Dreams crack Top Ten
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It doesn't help that virtually no one bought the 3DS Shinobi game. It wasn't much to look at but it played really well.
Oh shit yeah.
Port/Localize/Remake it to current/next.
If Nintendo won't let Sega make a new F-Zero, Sega should make their own spin on it as a new IP.
Yakuza is great, but it is like a long running TV show that has gone on too long and just burns out the viewer. Making Yakuza 7 a turn based JRPG is bold, but why not just a new IP?
The developers are really among the greatest talent that SEGA currently has and they have built a franchise that has them in top form, but I feel like they could be doing so much more for SEGA.
Yakuza is still growing in popularity thanks to coming to PC and Xbox bringing in new fans, but I'd rather the releases slowed down and the creators try to make another flagship series that wasn't just more of their typical output. I'd love to see what they could do with a new franchise that actually tried to be like a modern action title.
I also believe they should ramp up the Sonic output, especially with the success of the film. Sonic games just need a bigger budget.
Another thing, it really irks me that the new ChuChu Rocket is locked down to Apple Arcade. I hope it releases on consoles later this year and it is just a timed exclusive.
The developers are really among the greatest talent that SEGA currently has and they have built a franchise that has them in top form, but I feel like they could be doing so much more for SEGA.
Yakuza is still growing in popularity thanks to coming to PC and Xbox bringing in new fans, but I'd rather the releases slowed down and the creators try to make another flagship series that wasn't just more of their typical output. I'd love to see what they could do with a new franchise that actually tried to be like a modern action title.
I also believe they should ramp up the Sonic output, especially with the success of the film. Sonic games just need a bigger budget.
Another thing, it really irks me that the new ChuChu Rocket is locked down to Apple Arcade. I hope it releases on consoles later this year and it is just a timed exclusive.
I adore that Yakuza is getting so much love. It deserves it but maybe slow down a little. Give it a little break as people get through all the current titles and the PC ports release. There is plenty Yakuza for people to play at the moment. Actually localize Ishin and then take a break.
Bring the obscure stuff. Waiting in Revenge of Death Adder for years, so I can wait more. Assuming Streets does ok...
Hmm, unsure what else is popular honestly however.
Hmm, unsure what else is popular honestly however.
As a company that was always at the forefront of arcades and testing the waters with new technology, it's rather surprising they're not doing any VR games.
Sega's got some big name franchises that I feel would do great in VR. Virtua Cop, House of the Dead, Space Harrier, and Panzer Dragoon would all be excellent in VR.
Sega's got some big name franchises that I feel would do great in VR. Virtua Cop, House of the Dead, Space Harrier, and Panzer Dragoon would all be excellent in VR.
I believe they're doing some sort of Zombie VR warehouse thing in Japan as well as a VR rollercoaster in one of their arcades. Outside that there's Space Channel 5 VR and that's about it.
I'd pay stupid money for Panzer Dragoon VR
I think from what I said you could derive that I do enjoy Sonic games generally. Of the 2010s I judge the games this way:
Amazing:
Sonic Generations 360
Sonic Mania (Plus)
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
Sonic Colours Wii
Sonic Colours DS
Good:
Sonic Lost World Wii U
Sonic Generations 3DS
Sonic Boom Fire and Ice
Team Sonic Racing
Sonic Forces
OK:
Sonic Lost World 3DS
Sonic Boom Shattered Crystal
Awful:
Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric
Sonic and the Black Knight
As I love platformers, everything from OK onwards is welcome.
These are the samurai spinoffs right? I would love to play those
Yeah, they are. If we can have games like Sekiro, Nioh 1 & 2, & Ghost of Tsushima, then we can surely have those, too.
They can do both. And whether or not it's a crossgen title is pretty irrelevant considering we only got the PS4 release of Yakuza 0 in the West.
I mean, we already got Shenmue 3, Shin Sakura Wars, Wonder Boy... And Panzer Dragoon and SoR are coming back as well. That's pretty good.
I'm just curious what a Phantasy Star Online 3 from current Sega would look like and how soon it could be a thing, given the recent reveal of games like Bandai Namco's Blue Protocol which seem to be going after the same audience with a much newer looking/playing game. PSO2 is 8 years old at this point yet is just now releasing in NA, so the game definitely has some life left in it, but I do think within the next couple of years PSO2 will be at a point where it's outdated from both a development point of view as well as compared to its peers in the same genre.
Afaik PSO2 is the only game the Sega Online division has ever made (followed by the cloud Switch version and now the Xbox version), so it's possible they have already started looking into what a PSO3 could be by now.
Afaik PSO2 is the only game the Sega Online division has ever made (followed by the cloud Switch version and now the Xbox version), so it's possible they have already started looking into what a PSO3 could be by now.
Also it would be nice if Virtua Fighter could exist again....
Only game on home consoles but they've done a lot more on handhelds, mobile and browser. Off the top of my head Samurai & Dragons, Yakuza Online and Initial D 3DS were some.
Sega really missed the boat by not localizing Ishin. It came out really early in the PS4's life when there were still hardly any good Japanese games, it probably would've done well in the west.
Yeah, it probably could have been the "Yakuza 0" of reviving the series sooner but hey I'm not complaining with how well the series has been going since then.
I wonder if Sega's really going to continue having directly competitive HD engines developed internally? It seems like a waste of resources to pit CS1 (RGG Studio) and CS2 (Sonic Team) against each other like this and you'd think there'd be a big upside to establishing a shared technology team and engine to serve both groups and maybe also Atlus and the AM teams (who appear to be moving to UE4 more and more).
To illustrate what I'm talking about:
Magic-V Engine (2008-2012)
Hedgehog Engine (2008-2016)
Magic-V Engine (2008-2012)
- Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan (PS3)
- Yakuza 3 (PS3/PS4)
- Yakuza 4 (PS3/PS4)
- Yakuza: Dead Souls (PS3)
- Binary Domain (PS3/360/PC)
- Yakuza 5 (PS3/PS4)
- Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin! (PS3/PS4)
- Yakuza 0 (PS3/PS4/PC/XBO)
- Yakuza Kiwami (PS3/PS4/PC/XBO)
- Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise (PS4)
- Yakuza 6: The Song of Life (PS4)
- Yakuza Kiwami 2 (PS4/PC/XBO)
- Judgement (PS4)
- Yakuza: Like a Dragon (PS4)
Hedgehog Engine (2008-2016)
- Sonic Unleashed (360/PS3)
- Sonic Generations (360/PS3/PC)
- Sonic: Lost World (WU/PC)
- Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games (WU)
- Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games (WU) *contains HE2 code
- Sonic Forces (NSW/PS4/XBO/PC)
- Olympic Games Tokyo 2020: The Official Video Game (NSW/PS4/XBO/PC)
- Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 (NSW)
- Sakura Wars (PS4)
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I actually read that the Dragon Engine uses stuff from Binary Domain, rather than being on the same engine as Magical V.
Sega seemingly always develops from scratch still for each new game...heck, the new arcade games don't all use UE4 either.
However they do seemingly share more technology nowadays, the new Sakura Wars clearly uses some Yakuza stuff for the cutscenes.
Sega seemingly always develops from scratch still for each new game...heck, the new arcade games don't all use UE4 either.
However they do seemingly share more technology nowadays, the new Sakura Wars clearly uses some Yakuza stuff for the cutscenes.
And it also uses the Hedgehog Engine as stated before. It's just an engine for graphics, it has nothing to do with physics and other stuff.
But I don't think they could, for instance, readily use the Dragon Engine for a new Sonic game. Maybe switching everything to Unreal would be a better choice.
Yeah. I don't know why 2D - 3D - Kart/Sport/Party Sonic game cycle is not a thing by now