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Sega is splitting its console/PC and pachinko businesses into 2 different companies owned by Sega Sammy
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Don't forget people like me who are terminally paranoid and always assume the worst
People are dying for a properly funded Shenmue. Non of that kickstarter crap.
It does. Sega of today is not the Sega of old. There are so many IP languishing. IF ms were to purchase I would think it would be a good thing for Sega's games.
As long as Sega keeps supporting the PC I don't care who buys them. Not that I believe this is a sign they are looking for a buyer though.
Lol don't you think you are reaching here? It's just a management change, we don't know if they'll really sell lmao
I feel bad for longtime Yakuza and Persona fans. Consolidation seriously sucks!
People celebrating this make me fucking sick to my stomach. It's really come to this... Literally buying 3rd party publishers in order to stay competitive.
Whichever company engages in this stuff, can go straight to hell. But I'll never forgive MS for starting what seems to become a trend.
The difference? None of them is a gigantic console-manufacturer and those acquisitions didn't impact console gaming specifically. Those were mostly mobile gaming companies and even when they weren't, they had essentially zero impact on console gaming.
There is a fucking difference and I'm tired of the false equivalencies and horrible excuses being made. Can we at least agree that it's fucking BAD, even as a hypothetical?!
This is highly likely the reason however given the current climate in the industry and what's been going on, we also can't completely dismiss the other reason even if it seems highly unlikely.
It's time
but yeah, this sounds like fairly common re-structuring stuff? haven't Square and Konami both done the same recently
but yeah, this sounds like fairly common re-structuring stuff? haven't Square and Konami both done the same recently
Yeah imo it just rings of desperation. They are so concerned with their first party library growing xbox fans dont realize this doesn't even really create more games. Xbox is just taking talent that already exists in the industry and redirecting them to make only xbox content. These publishers were fine on their own.
I feel bad for longtime Yakuza and Persona fans. Consolidation seriously sucks!
People celebrating this make me fucking sick to my stomach. It's really come to this... Literally buying 3rd party publishers in order to stay competitive.
Whichever company engages in this stuff, can go straight to hell. But I'll never forgive MS for starting what seems to become a trend.
I have a question. I don't understand these things all that well so sorry for my ignorance. This seems like to me a restructure on Segas part. Why are people correlating that to a buyout/acquisition/merger?
Is this just a wish for some or is their some substance behind this? Thanks for anyone that can clarify.
Is this just a wish for some or is their some substance behind this? Thanks for anyone that can clarify.
I guess they would sell well on PC too.
That's because they're getting bought as well.It's time
but yeah, this sounds like fairly common re-structuring stuff? haven't Square and Konami both done the same recently
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Go read the OP and tell why would Sega Sammy Holdings sell the subsidiary that pumps in benefits & keep the one recording losses.
I'm not making excuses
We are living in a free market and this is capitalization at its finest. If acquisitions are not illegal, then there's nothing bad about what MS or Embracer or Tencent are doing.
It's only bad if you are going to miss out on some games because you have decided to stick to one specific platform, but for me? I don't care, Sony, MS, Tencent or Nintendo or EA they can buy whatever they want, i'm in no position to stop them and still, this is only gaming and a hobby to me, not a big deal at the end of the day and being pissed is just unhealthy.
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It sorta is. Not intentionally. Sega isn't going to elevate MS out of near obscurity in Japan. All it'll do is make Sega games exclusive in the West and they'll lose out on the Sonic fanbase on Nintendo systems, and the Persona/Yakuza fanbase on Sony systems. I just don't see how this deal benefits Sega
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Well, mostly other companies did, not Sega. But Sega is cool in that they license their unused IP in the first place.
As someone who works on M&A as part of my job, I can safely dismiss the other reason for now.
I would imagine that if MS were to purchase them they would probably leave most of the Japanese stuff multiplatform. Unlike Bethesda, I actually don't think those franchises would do great without Sony/Nintendo. It would just allow them to all be released on Xbox also day-and-date which currently most of it doesn't.
Can you give me info that explains when the Japanese government will step in and prevent a merger? Because I see that thrown around all the time without any evidence that it would happen for a small, marginally successful company.
Rather they stay independent and not sure this news means much.
Most of all I want a Skies of Arcadia remake/HD and sequel. Clearly it's too much to ask from Sega.
Most of all I want a Skies of Arcadia remake/HD and sequel. Clearly it's too much to ask from Sega.
Things may very well change. And better management of studios, leading to higher quality titles, is in no way a bad thing. But we are yet to see it paying off at all, and people are already assuming Microsoft buying publishers left and right is a good thing because they will somehow revive all the forgotten franchises, and fund all of these amazing projects that will hit Gamepass day one (no price hike as well).
All in a thread about Sega restructuring. It's almost ridiculous at this point how badly people hide the fact that they just want their favorite trillion dollar corporation to "get a win" over the competition. Fanboy wishlists and tales of Microsoft "the Good" abound this forum, and I must confess to be perplexed by it.
Completely? You can't. Only time will tell if this meant more than what it actually was.
I don't necessarily disagree and can see how annoying it's all become.
wouldn't be surprised. we had that Bloomberg article which said MS was talking to Japanese devs (big and small) about acquisitions and we have insiders hinting at other major acquisitions similar in size to Bethesda and then we have the CEO himself saying they aren't done with acquisitions and that was immediately after announcing the Bethesda acquisition. I mean the signs are obvious. something major is coming. :)
A low effort HD port is the best we'll ever see of that regardless of who owns Sega
Is anyone who's saying this move looks like they're clearly priming themselves for acquisition actually know how M&A works? Genuine question, because this could very easily just be a standard restructuring. A lot of posts sound like wishful thinking from the usual crowd if anything.
The acqusition wars have began. This stuff will keep happening every time there is a restructuring now somewhere.
This....
Though it won't be as bad of a sting, as Sega has lost it's magic since the DC days.
In my eyes, Sega officially died on March 31, 2001. MS buying them would just be pumping formaldehyde into a corpse.
Here's to Sega's 20th memorial of remembrance...
So, is this nothing or something?
Shenmue doesn't need to be AAA. Shenmue needs to be good.
This....
Though it won't be as bad of a sting, as Sega has lost it's magic since the DC days.
In my eyes, Sega officially died on March 31, 2001. MS buying them would just be pumping formaldehyde into a corpse.
Here's to Sega's 20th memorial of remembrance...
the melodrama is off the charts, sega releases a lot of fantastic games.
I was going to say something similar, Shenmue III had issues, budget not really being one of them
Something being good or bad is not defined in any sense by whether there are laws against it. There were laws against defacing public monuments, but it was still good when that slave trader statue was pulled down and dumped in the ocean last year, for an obvious more extreme example.
Wanna make an avatar bet? I say someone announces they are acquiring Sega (or significant parts) in the next 18 months.
Hard to ignore all the smoke, here. And given the climate of acquisitions it's not hard to see why some users have reacted to the news in this way.
Count me in as one of the people that would want to see MS revive some of my childhood favorite IPs at SEGA. The potential for the BC team emulating past SEGA titles into GamePass, having a fully funded Yakuza series with localization day 1, and the complete financial backing of MS excites me.
Trying to assign a morality code behind company acquisitions is weird. These are businesses that are doing what's best for them, and the companies being acquired are 99/100 looking to be bought. If MS ends up acquiring them (I still think some kind of GP partnership is more likely) than so be it. It's hard not to think the future of SEGA titles under the current Xbox team wouldn't be a hell of a lot more exciting than what they're doing now.
I feel bad for longtime PSO/PSO2 fans because MS has had to market it and make the Western release happen. If you look at the marketing for PSO2: NGS for the global market, it has been absolutely abysmal and embarrassing. They barely reached the first goal out of five for a Twitter followers campaign. Don't act like Sega are doing a great job in handling all their IPs and marketing.
I feel bad for longtime Yakuza and Persona fans. Consolidation seriously sucks!
People celebrating this make me fucking sick to my stomach. It's really come to this... Literally buying 3rd party publishers in order to stay competitive.
Whichever company engages in this stuff, can go straight to hell. But I'll never forgive MS for starting what seems to become a trend.
Oh believe me, I know they have!
I was just trying to highlight that there is usually other signs that happen before full-blown M&A happen, and I don't see them quite yet.
I do think this will be good for Sega's business though!
At this point I would take a low effort HD port with trophies. But I still have blind hope of more lol
and what makes you think Microsoft are the ones that would do something worthwhile with SEGA IP's????? LOL they can barely do anything worthwhile with the IP's they have now outside of Gears and Forza.
Wasn't there a rumour a while back that Microsoft were talking to Sega about bringing DC games to back compat on Xbox?
I'm good. I don't know what will happen to Sega in the next 18 months, but even if an acquisition were to occur, this wouldn't have been the stage-setter.
There's no smoke. You're projecting your own desire for Microsoft to purchase Sega onto an organizational restructure.
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