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A rebranded japanese series x would be dope
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Sega is splitting its console/PC and pachinko businesses into 2 different companies owned by Sega Sammy
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A rebranded japanese series x would be dope
You should try playing some new games then, it's way more fun than obsessing over every single Microsoft rumor
That, the original Xbox stuff, MS looking to buy, etc. Also, this always happen with SEGA and MS. It's a meme by now. Look at post 345.
There is no indication whatsoever that this change is to accommodate for an acquisition, I mean, the pdf itself has the reasons on why they are doing this, unless you want to read between the lines I can't see where they want to be acquired.
Especially considering Sega is doing quite well in recent years, unlike Bethesda for example that had a spree of underperformers.
Yeah, but I think it's different when a platform holders buys things up.
Exactly. People don't seem to understand that restructurings like this happen all the time. And even if someone did acquire a bunch of Sega it wouldn't actually change their output. What matters to Sega of 2021? Retro compilations, PC strategy games, PSO, Sonic, Persona, SMT and Yakuza. So what would matter to a company that acquires Sega IP? Retro compilations, PC strategy games, PSO, Sonic, Persona, SMT and Yakuza.
Microsoft wouldn't acquire a bunch of Sega IP and then be like "Okay we need to green light Sega Bass Fishing 3, Virtua Cop 4, Crazy Taxi 4, Dragon Force 3, Fighting Vipers 3, Panzer Dragoon Saga 2...". If a company acquired a bunch of Sega IP they'd just keep rolling with what already does well. MAYBE they would be more willing to dust off an older franchise more often than Sega does now but that would probably quickly come to an end when they don't see the returns they want from it.
Exactly, how can we not bring up the potential of a buyout with this move, I know it's inconvenient for some, but this is in line with what you'd expect if a company is flirting with the idea of a sell off/acquisition.
Then buy the platform they are on. If MS for some reason sold Halo to Amazon. I signing up for Luna or whatever. Don't see the big deal. I love Dragon Ball so I made sure to have a PS2 back in day. I'm I wrong for thinking it's that simple
I feel bad for longtime Yakuza and Persona fans. Consolidation seriously sucks!
People celebrating this make me fucking sick to my stomach. It's really come to this... Literally buying 3rd party publishers in order to stay competitive.
Whichever company engages in this stuff, can go straight to hell. But I'll never forgive MS for starting what seems to become a trend.
People really went from excusing Microsoft because they only bought smaller studios and publishers that were "shopping for a buyer", to taking any news about a company in the industry as a sign that Microsoft will pounce and being happy for it?
Does Sega also need to be bought, or risk closing down?
Does Sega also need to be bought, or risk closing down?
I can absolutely understand how people might be upset IF MS were to gain the Sega under the umbrella. I do think its likely that Sega is setting themselves up to be sold to some bigger fish.
Guys.. MS owning Sega is not such a bad idea.
I said it before.. An Obsidian made Panzer Dragoon Saga.. or something similar. I mean come on!
Btw, Alpha Protocol?
Rare checking out Alex Kidd stuff.. Daytona/Sega Rally stuff by PG.. yeah, nice stuff can happen..
I said it before.. An Obsidian made Panzer Dragoon Saga.. or something similar. I mean come on!
Btw, Alpha Protocol?
Rare checking out Alex Kidd stuff.. Daytona/Sega Rally stuff by PG.. yeah, nice stuff can happen..
The issue is that this will not always be Phil Spencer's Xbox (it will also not be Satya's forever, but I do want to talk about the potential risk to Microsoft's gaming division and those they have acquired under him). Microsoft's gaming division under different leadership has closed down a number of studios and laid a number of IPs into dormancy. In addition, Satya has been supportive of Xbox so far but there have been talks (and I believe Phil confirmed it, but correct me if I am wrong) that he was looking to axe or spin-off the business when he originally took over. Satya has, of course, led Microsoft out of a number of consumer businesses including mobile phones (both in terms of software platform and by writing off the Nokia acquisition) and music in addition he has reduced the role of the Windows ecosystem in the consumer space. Microsoft is a cloud-first/office-first company under Satya and much of the current management, everything else seems to be secondary to that. I feel like if cloud-gaming does not take off in the way Satya hopes that would endanger Phil's position and without Phil fighting for Xbox then it could lead to Satya or successors to scale it back, spin it off, or write it off.
I feel bad for longtime Yakuza and Persona fans. Consolidation seriously sucks!
People celebrating this make me fucking sick to my stomach. It's really come to this... Literally buying 3rd party publishers in order to stay competitive.
Whichever company engages in this stuff, can go straight to hell. But I'll never forgive MS for starting what seems to become a trend.
It's just video games
Hope this leads to more investment in Sega Europe. I love what those teams have been doing the past years.
A question: Why is everyone talking about MS buying Sega?
Doesn't Sony actually have a better relationship with Sega? I mean, Persona, they made Yakuza a thing in the west, etc...
And isn't Sega a japanese company? Wouldn't that complicate things for an american company to buy Sega?
I have no idea what's happening lmao
Doesn't Sony actually have a better relationship with Sega? I mean, Persona, they made Yakuza a thing in the west, etc...
And isn't Sega a japanese company? Wouldn't that complicate things for an american company to buy Sega?
I have no idea what's happening lmao
It's a bad idea for Microsoft. A total waste of money.
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Don't. Some of us missed the memo that we were only allowed to buy PlayStations and ended up being multi-console owners and are happy to play Yakuza and Persona on PC/Xbox/Switch/wherever they show up.
Maybe I'm too old for this. But I once had to learn to play Final Fantasy on a PlayStation. I had to learn to play Sonic on a GameCube. And I had to learn to play Perfect Dark on an Xbox. I've survived all of these. Us longtime Yakuza and Persona fans will be fine thanks.
I've played Yakuza 0 and Kiwami on both PS4 and Xbox and both were equally fine experiences.
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LOL
Maybe MS can pour more resources into Creative Assembly. The total War series has gone stale for me. Medieval 3 on a new engine would get so much hype!
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Yea, it's just restructuring. Sega Sammy is still Sega Sammy, it's not becoming Sega Games and Sammy Slots or something like that. Sony and Konami have done/are doing the same thing.
Forgive? These are for profit companies. Why are you personifying them like a sports team?
I feel bad for longtime Yakuza and Persona fans. Consolidation seriously sucks!
People celebrating this make me fucking sick to my stomach. It's really come to this... Literally buying 3rd party publishers in order to stay competitive.
Whichever company engages in this stuff, can go straight to hell. But I'll never forgive MS for starting what seems to become a trend.
Good luck Sega itself only has 1100 shares and they are worth a ton according to the PDF they released (as long as I'm reading that right). Sammy has a shitload though :/
MS also hs a good relationship with SEGA.
MS is literally using a SEGA studio (Relic Entertainment) to make Age of Empires 4
MS also used another SEGA studio (Creative Assembly) to make Halo Wars 2
Waste of money I don't know.. personally I don't think so.
Also, Sega buyout could fit the bill in the rumour of a "Bethesda size" acquisition..
And why can't Sega being independent allow things like this to happen?
We got Streets of Rage 4, a VR Space Channel 5 game, Sonic getting a good sequel, Daytona USA got a new arcade game and so did House of the Dead. Anything can happen at this point and MS isn't the thing that makes them happen.
Sales still matter, but with XGP, the ability to offer a diversified portfolio and retain their subscribers is going to be more valuable. And if Microsoft is giving freedom to their studios (as some have stated), I don't see the reason to think the studios are going to change their games.
Because Obsidian and the devs I mentioned are MS in-house teams. Both Obsidian and Playground are established and top tier devs in their categories..
Why Sega has not revived their old IPs I do not know, but it is a gamble of course. With Gamepass, MS can afford to gamble on games that are a bit more odd..
Plus, let's be honest, if you already have Gamepass, it wouldn't be the worst things for those games to come to the service day one. Or for the MS BC wizards to look at Sega's back catalog (personally disc based Dreamcast emulation would be pretty sweet).
I'm not worried about Bayo 3 - that's a done deal and will happen on the Switch. It's more about whether there'll be more Bayo beyond that, and if so, on which platforms. Nintendo's not going to want keep funding the series if they don't get the games exclusively, and I'm not sure MS would be OK with their IP not appearing on any of their own platforms.
It's a hobby I'm engaged it. We all are, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
It potentially being ruined, is just saddening.
Buying 3rd party games on your platform of choice being less and less of an option, is never fucking good. Period.
Longtime fans of these SEGA franchises are undoubtedlty PS fans and they helped build most of them, especially Yakuza and Persona.
I bet you the people celebrating, wouldn't exactly be ecstatic over Apple/Google/Sony buying Rockstar. No one, besides the buyer, really benefits from this.
I'll never fucking support it.
Sega: *does something*
Era: "Microsoft acquisition incoming," "The timing lines up for a Microsoft acquisition," etc.
And each time, there is nothing to suggest an acquisition, nonetheless one by Microsoft.
Sega isn't hinting at anything or being coy. They literally outline the reasons for this organizational restructuring, which are to:
As for Nagoshi, I couldn't say why he stepped down from his role as CCO (edit: possibly health-related?), but I'm looking forward to him returning to a more hands-on role in game development, if that's what this means.
Era: "Microsoft acquisition incoming," "The timing lines up for a Microsoft acquisition," etc.
And each time, there is nothing to suggest an acquisition, nonetheless one by Microsoft.
Sega isn't hinting at anything or being coy. They literally outline the reasons for this organizational restructuring, which are to:
- "...transform its business structure to adapt to the external environment"
- (Should be noted that "adapt to the external environment" means to adapt to anything outside the control of the company.)
- "...build an even more efficient structure for the head office operations of [Sega Sammy] Group."
- "...establish a system to drive and support [Sega Sammy] Group business as a whole by integrating corporate functions and other administrative operations into [Sega Sammy Holdings]."
- "...[dissolve] the intermediate holding company in the Entertainment Contents business, and accelerate global business development by streamlining the [Sega Sammy] Group's structure and accelerating decision-making."
As for Nagoshi, I couldn't say why he stepped down from his role as CCO (edit: possibly health-related?), but I'm looking forward to him returning to a more hands-on role in game development, if that's what this means.
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