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Sega is splitting its console/PC and pachinko businesses into 2 different companies owned by Sega Sammy
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I'm kind of surprised Nintendo hasn't purchased the IP by now.
what's a list of the "games" (ips or whatever) that MS would be getting with such a purchase?
I started here but it's not really helpful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises
I started here but it's not really helpful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_video_game_franchises
A Microsoft acquisition only seems like a good thing to me.
They might sort Sega's bullshit out.
They might sort Sega's bullshit out.
Makes an acquisition very likely IMO, not necessarily MS though, albeit that would make the most sense considering their PC-heavy content.
I'm not sure it would make sense to divest the games business and keep the pachinko business at the moment. If anything it would make sense to divest/sell off the pachinko business(as they did their Arcade business).
The fundamentals of the games business are strong right now, where as the fundamentals for pachinko are weak.
The fundamentals of the games business are strong right now, where as the fundamentals for pachinko are weak.
MS will def try to get them, however it will be very interesting seeing the Chinese companies bringing out the A game too. Think MS wont win that war, they might have billions on hand but we know that tencent and the like are virtually state backed with limitless access to funds, if need be.
We should hear of a bidding war before any buyout though, fucking everyone wants that blue hedgehog if/when sega is for sale.
We should hear of a bidding war before any buyout though, fucking everyone wants that blue hedgehog if/when sega is for sale.
At the very least, I'd say EVENTUALLY. There has to be someone within Xbox who wants to do something with some of Sega's series. Plus, I'm sort of in the same boat with a lot of other people in that I'd rather Microsoft snatch up companies rather than Amazon or Google doing it.
That'd be amazing. Plus, I suspect that the Back Compat team(s) could probably emulate Sega's hardware more accurately than Sega ever has. It's not even about familiarity with the old hardware, as Sega is single-handedly responsible for some of the worst emulation of Sega systems in history. I still can't believe they released the Sega Smash Pack "Volume 1" for Dreamcast in the state it was in.
Unless SEGA is dying it's dumb to sell one of your IPs, licensing bring money with little to no effort.
The only i.p.s of Sega that MS would be really interested in are the ones that are already fairly active, and Sonic. Microsoft would have interest in Yakuza, Persona, Shin Megami Tensei, Sonic. Maybe bayonetta, but that ones a bit awkward since Nintendo will own 2/3 exclusively, no matter what.
Everything else would get even less attention than it does now.
Yeah, but most everyone else seems to want to jerk off about acquisitions instead.
What happens to the shares owned by current shareholders? What if I were to buy shares now? Would I be buying shares in the pachinko or video games division?
Anyone would be better than Sega themselves. Sega of Japan is a mess
Also, if this means we could finally get PC releases for all the Sega OG Xbox games (JSRF, GunValkyrie, Panzer Dragoon Orta), then woohoo!
I wake up and see there are yet another MS fanboy wishlist thread.
This generation is shaping up to be one of the worst it seems.
This generation is shaping up to be one of the worst it seems.
Not inaccurate.
They owns shares in the parent company, not of the divisions.
Apparently. This thread isn't even about anything like what everyone just wants to circlejerk over. It's annoying.
I'd support an acquisition just to give eg. Microsoft access to their back catalogue of IP
You think anyone cares about Sega if not for potential console warz cannon fodder?
MS purchased the Gears of War IP from Epic. The reason Bayonetta isn't currently a Nintendo IP is probably down to Nintendo more than Sega. They'd probably be more than willing to sell. Once Nintendo stops producing sequels, that series is dead.
Sega selling an IP like that would just be bad on their end. Especially since the one interested in working with it is Nintendo, it's better to them have it licensed and rake in the benefits.
tho I feel any IP that's doing decently would be bad to sell, since it's just easy money in some cases.
Perhaps if you look at every thread about Sega doing something you will see that almost every thread is full of people salivating at the thought MS would buy them.
Heck, not even just Sega. Almost every thread about companies doing something is acquisition talks.
Sega started closing their arcades down in Japan last year too.
Getting whiplash going from timed exclusives are evil/bullshit but acquisitions are awesome!*
*as long as it benefits my platforms of choice.
Getting whiplash going from timed exclusives are evil/bullshit but acquisitions are awesome!*
*as long as it benefits my platforms of choice.
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There's been endless begging on here for Microsoft to buy various publishers since the Bethesda news, and with Sony to a lesser extent
MS purchased the IP because Epic Games had no interest in continuing the franchise.
SEGA is still getting money from Nintendo in royalities and licensing even if they are not actively making games.
The series can as well be dead, but there's still value in the IP to be used on other formats.
Notice you only hear that for companies that are struggling. We haven't heard anything about capcom have we?
It doesn't conceptually make sense to me why the Sammy side of the company would sell the Sega side, given that the latter is propping up the former during the covid downturn. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'd be surprised.
Not really.
Just go back into any thread about any company restructuring and you will see how it always end up with acquisition begging. And yes, Capcom is one of the biggest ones on the wishlists.
Capcom was brought up about a hundred times in that acquisition rumor thread from yesterday. It's there, it's just not restructuring, so it's not quite as strong at the moment.
Because they said they were acquiring more. Hence, the speculation. I don't see them acquiring a Japanese company though. That's my take.
It's definitely a good decision by Sega atm. I do think that if an acquisition of Sega actually happens though, we might see Nintendo offer to purchase the IP. Or maybe they just end their involvement with Bayonetta 3 and the series goes dormant.
Any idea why Sega's capital increased post-split? Or am I reading wrong?
Do I think it's going to happen? Eh. But this isn't the reason why I'd be skeptical.
Eh. I can't imagine that actually being a huge problem for Atlus specifically. Persona 5 sold 3-4 million copies. Of those ~500k were in Japan. That's also about the estimate of total sales on Steam for Persona 4 Golden. And MS releases on Steam AND other platforms, including an investment into bringing full console games to mobile. In other words, while they may see a large drop in sales for the first few years, I actually don't see that as a compelling argument against potential MS acquisition personally.
Do I think it's going to happen? Eh. But this isn't the reason why I'd be skeptical.
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