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SEGA Genesis/Mega Drive Mini: Review Thread
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Sounds good enough for me. I also bought the official six button controller on amazon so i mines well commit anyway.
Probably only going to play it for like 30mins to 1hr and never touch it again, but it's like getting a genesis for the first time all over again...but smaller!
Okay? Your post was the 119th post in this thread. How has the conversation "devolved" into hacking?
I see more discussions on the quality of the sounds, games included, etc. more than anything about hacking.
what is your favorite beat em up or shmup on the SNES classic?
It hasn't yet, I'm just hopeful it doesn't, as threads about "Mini/Classic" consoles often get derailed in that manner.
Yeah, I bought 2 6-button USB retro-bit controllers already too (even though I already had an 8-button retro-bit which is supposed to work too). I'm still curious if there's a quality difference between the retro-bit controllers and the 6-button controllers that come with the Japanese version. It's kinda making me want to import a Japanese version just to see.
The difference is those people/myself own all those games legally through steam and other pc releases that give you the rights to the rom. I doubt people owned dq5 rom translation or terranigma legally that they were putting on snes classic. I mean besides a few hardcore people who dumped carts
Your post kind of comes off as "how dare you talk about something I don't want to" and bitch eating crackers mode stuff
I don't like beat em up or shmup games. I never have. I don't think I've added even one to my hacked unit.
If I had to play a beat em up it would be Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, and if it had to be a console beat em up it would be SoR2 on Megadrive. And always on coop, they bore me to death solo.
There's no way I would play a shmup at all. Not even in coop.
My Megadrive was mostly used for Sonic and Disney games. And Light Crusader. That too.
I'm sure you'll end up using it a lot. I've beaten a lot of game on my hackes SNES and PSX Mini and I'm sure I'll do the same with this one.
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the point i'm making is that the SNES Classic's standard lineup doesn't have nearly as much in terms of variety as the Genesis/MD Mini.
i totally get the preference. it's just a frustrating (and common) sentiment that the SNES was a clear "winner" of the generation when all three of the "big" consoles (Genesis/MD, TG16/PCE, SNES/SFC) all had such unique libraries with their own special qualities that differentiated them from one another.
Hopefully the Asian version will be available for a while. Had an unexpected car repair so decided to cancel my preorder. Want the version with MUSHA, alien soldier, and both Shining force games. Plus it comes with 6 button pads (though removes every fighting game for some reason).
The My Life in Gaming channel mentioned the double input issue WRT the menu only in their preview video. I linked to the timestamp where they mention it.
They didn't notice it in game, but I guess it's possible they could have missed it. It's also possible the Rarez guy has a defective unit or something.
Whoa, now I know I'm doing something right since I pre-ordered the same lineup as the master. HEAVILY considered that mini cartridge set / case with my ToP though...
I didn't encounter double-input issues during game testing. I absolutely noticed it in the menu system.
that's annoying but not nearly as if it impacted games lol
thanks for the info
Good to read Sega nailed it. I was already confident it'd be a good device since M2 was on board, so I pre-ordered the Asian Mini as soon as I knew the games lineup. I hope it'll do well for Sega and that it will eventually lead to a Mega CD Mini, Saturn Mini, Dreamcast Mini and/or Arcade Mini!
Genesis has more good RPGs (Phantasy Star II & IV, Shining in the Darkness, Shining Force I & II, Langrisser, Hybrid Front, Shadowrun...) than SNES has good horizontal shmups (UN Squadron, R-Type 3, Axelay... R-Type 3?? Thunder Spirits???)
I'm going to be so happy exploring the Genesis library when I pick up this mini console. What game should I try first?
Is this just the game hitting the sprite limit?
Also, can't wait till this thing is hacked baby!!! We need to get Sonic 3 on this.
The kind of thing that makes you wonder if the reviewer is even 20 years old.
You know that thing that old games do where your character sprite just flickers on/off every frame after you get hit and are temporarily invincible?
Dude thinks it's a visual glitch. Unless there really is something different about this implementation of it, but it doesn't sound like it.
Not even that. It feels like the reviewer hasn't played a single one of the many, many, many Sonic 1 rereleases.
Man, I want this, I really do, but it would be fucking useless to me.
I have basically 90% of the games in there, physically, along with a Mega SG, yet I have all those fucking mini consoles so not buying this one would feel wrong... D:
I have basically 90% of the games in there, physically, along with a Mega SG, yet I have all those fucking mini consoles so not buying this one would feel wrong... D:
In general, I don't need or expect this out of your basic reviewer. They're never going to be as useful as DF or MLIG anyway.
But if you're going to go out of your way to comment on "accuracy," then yes, it would be prudent to actually do your homework first.
Yeah, double input is making me a bit worried. I already have a drifting 3DS D-pad that does the same thing (and I have no idea how to fix), so i'd really not want one for a brand new system, especially in-game...
I think that's the thing, too.
Buying an official Sega console at retail, released in 2019 feels surreal, even though it's technically an 'old' one.
i have the retro-bit six button controller they reissued for the actual genesis hardware and they're pretty good. i wonder how the Sega produced ones for the Asian markets are going to feel.
Can still be bought in various configurations here:
EDIT: Actually, I was having page load issues. Looks like the buy button is grayed out. Sorry!
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that's the first time i've ever seen the cartridge art for the Japanese PSIV and holy shit am i blown away
The sprite limit doesn't manifest this way on the Sega Genesis. When the sprite limit is reached, all sprites to the right don't draw
if you'd like to see a really simple and neat way the sprite limit IS manipulated in Sonic 1, check out the title screen:
If you look at this image, and are familiar with the genesis hardware, you might notice that there are too many layers being displayed at once, this technically should not be possible. The background is all one layer, the emblem is one layer, Sonic himself is made up of many sprites, but it looks like the banner that says "Sonic" is yet a third layer, one that the genesis does not have. How does Sonic appear to slide between the emblem and banner?
If you played emulators back in the 90's, you might have been familiar with this bug:
This gives a clue into how it's all done. You see that the Sonic sprite is actually in front of the emblem and banner layer, which is just a single layer, there is more to Sonic's sprite that you see. The trick is that they are abusing the sprite limit, which is a horizontal limit per scanline. It works like so:
By placing sprites just off screen to the left of the banner, you can reach the sprite limit which causes the individual lines of Sonic's sprite to not draw for that entire horizontal band. This gives the illusion that he's sliding between layers. This is, effectively, a 2D mask for the title screen.
The flashing described in the IGN review isn't the sprite limit, nor is it a bug. It's a special effect, where a flag is set every vblank to alternate between these sprites being visible and not visible. This causes the sprite to flicker at 60 hz. It's an old school trick to simulate 50-50 blending to produce new half-shades. IGN's comment on accuracy is way off.
According to the comments in the Rerez video, it's supposedly a power supply issue. Apparently, switching from the included 5 volt adapter to a 2 amp adapter fixes the issue.
Can't wait for next week. I grew up playing snes (which is my favorite console of all time) but also played a fair bit of genesis. Still i am excited for this.
8bit still hasn't said anything about support for the m30?
I heard the retroflag 6 buttons controller is not that good
Edit: got confused with retro bit controller
8bit still hasn't said anything about support for the m30?
Edit: got confused with retro bit controller
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I'm amazed that someone else actually likes Light Crusader. It's one of my favorite games on the system (probably within my top five), and it's always a bummer to see it get trashed on ResetEra).
