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Seagate Storage Expansion Card for Xbox Series X Website Live
- Thread starter Gowans
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Actually I've wondered how this works. Is it right the 'x2' is lanes and therefore the interface in the XSX is 'x4' lanes that are split into to x2 lanes for internal SSD and x2 lanes for the external?
Or am I getting this very wrong?
With USB-C transfer speeds, just get a SATA SSD as external storage. You can probably get 2 TB for the same price as this.
EDIT: Because I worded this a little wonky, what I mean is transfer games from external to internal storage when you want to play them. You should max out the full 600 MB/s
EDIT: Because I worded this a little wonky, what I mean is transfer games from external to internal storage when you want to play them. You should max out the full 600 MB/s
Series X (and S I assume) only support next gen game storage though this you cant use USB hard drives for them
USB HDDs only support Xbone one and previous gen games.
I think it's due to the format. Going with M.2 2242 or M.2230 - basically laptop formats - means fewer chips and thus less bandwidth, so they offset it with Gen4, preserving the system format and maybe getting any sort of Gen4 features in the bargain.
Because Lockhart is also going to be called Series X 🕵️
Hopefully asset compression is better this gen and install sizes will be smaller..? Who am I kidding...
The only way this will cost $99 is if the price of memory across the entire market substantially drops in the next few weeks. Which it won't. Even then they probably already purchased everything on their BOM.
I'm sure Seagate won't sell these at a loss since they don't have some supplementary program to go along with it.
I'm sure Seagate won't sell these at a loss since they don't have some supplementary program to go along with it.
But minimum speeds will be 2.4 uncompressed and 4.8 compressed, right?
I have no idea, and would only guess so.
But 2 lanes should be enough for the rated bandwidth. Hopefully it means the card is cheaper?
Feels like the GameCube memory card situation all over again. Launch with 59 blocks, then come out later with 251 block
The idea is that here you don't have to transfer anything and you can bring the card with you to your friends.
I'll be buying one day one.
Do we know yet start Sonys solution is for their paltry 840gb drive?
Do we know yet start Sonys solution is for their paltry 840gb drive?
the bargain is same bandwidth as most drives at half the internal pcielanes.
I've seen articles/posts mentioning that the switch to SSD will allow game sizes to decrease as a result of faster access to files meaning less duplication of files is needed.
Is this actually a safe assumption to make? With the scumminess of today's gaming industry where the focus is on rushing games out the door and extreme monetization of everything, I see zero reason why companies would put in that additional effort (Especially for cross gen games) when it doesn't change the game quality and doesn't bring in any extra money.
Is this actually a safe assumption to make? With the scumminess of today's gaming industry where the focus is on rushing games out the door and extreme monetization of everything, I see zero reason why companies would put in that additional effort (Especially for cross gen games) when it doesn't change the game quality and doesn't bring in any extra money.
I kinda want to hold off on getting one of these until bigger ones are available but I'm not sure how feasible that's going to be. We already have 100+ gig games, I would not be at all shocked to see 200 gig games right off the bat.
I'd love for that to be the case, but I'm assuming there are going to be a lot more 4K assets and uncompressed audio for that "next gen" feel so I'd be surprised if sizes of games went down.
Theres no additional effort here, in fact its easier to access an asset from the same place every time. Not sure how that will translate to cross gen titles- realistically the file sizes should be smaller on the next gen systems comparatively but who knows.
Less duplication of assets doesn't mean that they have to make more assets.
It means that you don't have to save those assets multiple times on different "lanes" around that rotating disc.
Hopefully.....I know accessories are marked up but a $199 NVMe would look silly next to a $299 or even $249 Lockhart!
Most rumours point to it being a DRAMless QLC drive, so they can absolutely hit a $100 price point if there's a desire to do so. $120 would be fair, $150 or more would frankly be a complete rip off. There is precisely zero justification for a $200 price point.
I wasn't expecting pricing and preorders today, but this website going live hours before the stream sure is a red flag that we get hardware info today and not just software.
It also saves APU die area because they don't need to allocate area for those additional 4 PCIe lanes.
Did they confirm only 1tb at launch. I see only 1tb listed but 2 has to eventually exist.
I sure understand the justification. They will make more money not releasing them right away.
I sure understand the justification. They will make more money not releasing them right away.
QLC would go against their "guaranteed 2.4GB/s" spec, wouldn't it? Don't they get slower as they fill up?
I might give Samsung another try again because quite a few people have told me I must have gotten a dud.
Well their SSDs aren't getting great reviews either.
It would still look overpriced but I also don't think Lockhart will be priced that high, either.
probably the same as Microsoft's other solution which is copy files to and from an external usb drive.
That makes sense. The lack of DRAM cache didn't even occur to me, but it makes sense. Though it could lead to lower data transfers over a certain threshold, not to mention the lower lifespan that typically comes with cacheless drives. Pairing QLC NAND with a controller without DRAM cache does not sound like a very good idea to me. Could be why they went with a x2 link.
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I also think they will be catering to different markets, if you are willing to spend $200 on an expansion drive surely you could stump up the extra cash for the Series X as opposed to Lockhart?
At least the high price of this proprietary storage solution is justified. I still have nightmares of the cost of Vita memory cards when you could get equivalent SSDs for a fraction of the price.
Why will people here need this at launch? You don't have a regular external hard drive for Xbox One games? I can't see anyone filling their hard drive up with Xbox Series X games for at least a few months.
To be fair, a $180 controller looks kinda silly next to a $200 Xbox One S Digital but they still sold a shit ton this gen.
I think they proved that there's a fan base for premium accessories in addition to the folks who just want the cheap model.
Well, they were adamant that the show will be games only. Nothing else but games.
But they didn't say anything of the sort about the pre-show or the post-show so who knows.
I will just hook up my 4TB drive that I already use for this gen then. 🤷‍♂️