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Scientists call for Covid herd immunity strategy for young
- Thread starter SilentPanda
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What we know about what it's like to recover from Covid-19 and its long-term effects | CNN
More than 35 million people around the world have tested positive for the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
www.cnn.com
Cool cool cool. Sorry to those of you unlucky enough to get hit that bad or worse in this year's Hunger Games, but capital needs its bodies.
Shelby Hedgecock is a 29 year old former trainer with no former preexisting conditions, and rona screwed up her heart. Now she has to worry about heart attacks probably for the rest of her life.
If even only 1 out of a 100,000 folks under 40 suffer from that, it's too many to even attempt to have folks out there getting sick. Plus those sick youngsters are going to inevitably kill off who knows how many of the older even if most stick to their self quarantines.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya has worked at the Hoover institution (a conservative think tank, whose director is Condoleezza Rice). He's still doing appearances for them which makes me wonder how impartial he is.
Not putting my life and my future health on the line because my incompetent government couldn't act. "You'll *probably* not suffer any severe illness" is not good enough. They can shove their declaration up their butt. And how many twenty something millennials still live with their boomer parents, and how many are overweight, smoke etc? This is the worst idea ever.
In New York City around 30k people died from the 470k confirmed cases. Is that incredibly low to you?
The risk for permanent issues afterwards is real (in my case, both me and my wife have loss of smell/taste after recovering).
I hope the rest of the world ban travel to and from any stupid ass country that adopts this policy.
Doesn't this completely ignore the fact that other countries have gotten it mostly under control by NOT doing this? It's just so weird that we seem to have multiple models of success, yet this group of scientists is still looking to extreme, dangerous solutions that HAVEN'T been proven to work.
Literally the worst idea you could come up with. Based on how much we don't know about COVID immunity, this is unbelievably dangerous and those researchers should be ashamed of themselves
Yup, this is why I hate the politicization of this fucking virus. People are making sensationalized emotional statements without reading the articles or dissent.
Scientists who agree with my views: they're the experts and we need to listen to them
Sciebtisi who don't: They're fucking idiots and I'm smarter than them.
This is NOT a black and white discussion. And the dissenting scientists statements prove it.
To be fair we don't know the potential long term damage of our current path either. It's all speculation.
I would have prefered decisive, pre-emptive action than the reactive cycle of shutting things down when things get too bad and then getting lax the second things look better, personally.
There's no expert that can guarantee the safety of this strategy. And giving an opinion doesn't carry the same accountability as making policy. So the decision makers would be better off ignoring the experts supporting any type of herd immunity strategy because it's far easier to make amends for lost opportunities than for lost lives.
There's a difference between "a scientist" or even "scientists" saying something, and "scientific consensus" saying something.
Sort of like your local small town preacher might shout about how God sent him a vision saying everyone should put snakes up their butt, but that doesn't mean that's the new Christian dogma. These stooges are the snake-butt preachers of the scientific world.
This sure sounds a lot like the idea that we should sacrifice some grandmas to save the economy, only this time it's for the "greater good", medically speaking. It's still about sacrificing some number of elderly and at risk people, of course. Just, you know, this time we're pretending it's not about money.
Let young people put parents and grandparents at risk, not to mention themselves due to long term effects due to covid, and hope immunity happens even though there's been reports of people getting reinfected. What a great plan.
Scientists get it wrong many time. You have to trust the scientific method not the person.
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Nice to see more scientist who dare to speak up.
People are really stuck in their bubbles because of politics when it comes to this pandemic.
You don't have to agree with theese scientists but maybe they have a point. How many people will die and get long time effects because of lockdowns?
I recomend whatching interviews done by Unherd.com on youtube. Lots of experts all over the spectrum to get some more perspectives.
People are really stuck in their bubbles because of politics when it comes to this pandemic.
You don't have to agree with theese scientists but maybe they have a point. How many people will die and get long time effects because of lockdowns?
I recomend whatching interviews done by Unherd.com on youtube. Lots of experts all over the spectrum to get some more perspectives.
Wtf. Dude, people that get it and survive show terrible long lasting effects, let alone the fact that there is a none zero % of these young people that will die.
Also, unherd is some shit site started by right wing journalist.
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Considering the fact that lockdowns don't attack your body and covid does, i'm going to guess the answer to that is "not many."
There's also a danger in focusing too much on the opinions of the small minority. It's why antivax is a thing. Uneducated people looking for different perspectives find the 1 study that is counter to thousands and run with it. Climate change? Same deal.
So until 90% of doctors are on board with this theory, my suggestion is steer clear. In this era misinformation is a pandemic.
Horseshit. You only care what they have to say because it's what you wanted to hear.
A number of people getting your mysterious, potential lockdown effects isn't fucking comparable to a disease that we know for a fact will cull ~3% of the population plus many more with serious illnesses. Hell, you don't even really need lockdowns if the population are actually sensible and follow other control methods: Germany is pretty much open in terms of services as before but with mask restrictions and limits on big gatherings, work from home where possible, and required quarantines from covid hotspots. It remains to be seen what happens in winter still, but nobody knows that yet.
I am sure it would be great for my daughter's long term mental health if she got mild covid to do her part to boost herd immunity and brought it home to me, her mother who has at least two immune disorders, and I either became a long hauler or died.
This is why I work from home and she is in online school this year.
This is why I work from home and she is in online school this year.
So despite what MOST scientists say, A FEW scientists pop up with some clearly terrible advice and its broadcast far and wide to encourage idiots to endanger lives. ffs
