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Say hello to the Raspberry Pie 4 - New proc + 4 gig Ram + USB C charging
- Thread starter Vanillalite
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From what I understand it is a brand new GPU and only has support in the latest Linux Kernel. Kodi hasn't been optimised for it either. Give it a little bit and it should chew through 4k HDR video like a champ.
This is what Libreelec (standalone kodi) has to say about it:
Very excited to get one on my hands and subsequently pimping it out... not looking forward to finding new resources for totally legal nothing to see here move along move along ROMs though. RIP Emuparadise.
As far as emulation goes, is there anything other than major improvements to N64 and PS1 emulation that this new hardware could help out with? I suppose saturn is still too funky to emulate. I guess GBA could always use some smoothing out.
As far as emulation goes, is there anything other than major improvements to N64 and PS1 emulation that this new hardware could help out with? I suppose saturn is still too funky to emulate. I guess GBA could always use some smoothing out.
Honestly, I may be way overshooting this but considering the claimed 3x CPU performance and the use of Cortex A72's I could see this managing to run a few Gamecube games.
considering how phenomenal dolphin runs (assuming it would be using dolphin for emulation and not a GCN branch of retroarch) I can totally see this happening. That'll be hype as hell.
It can overclock to 1.75GHz (~17%) and 600MHz on the GPU (20%), considering Nvidia Shield's 1.9GHz A57 quad core is enough to emulate Gamecube, the CPU shouldn't hold back emulation on the faster A72 CPU, and it has faster RAM than the Nvidia Shield... GPU is obviously weaker than the Nvidia Shield, but I'm not sure how much is needed to emulate Gamecube, I'd venture to guess that it is indeed going to be possible to emulate Gamecube and even some Wii Games.
3DS might be possible too. Maybe PS2? (My Galaxy S7E has a A72 quad core processor and seems to do ok in this video, but it might be clocked over 2GHz)
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PS2 CPU needs are too insane so I can't see it doing that but as long as the GPU doesn't prevent it I could totally see Dolphin happening which insanely exciting to me. I can't wait to see tests.
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Daemon PS2 on Android actually runs really well, it uses stolen PCSX2 code if that's a deal breaker for you.
Seems the A72 is capable of emulating PS2 games, I'm not sure what the clock requirement is, but my phone uses an A72 quad core processor and can play GoW2 at 30+FPS, though it might be overclocked from the 1.8GHz spec.
The model 1 is still selling at the same price so I highly doubt it.
If he goes to the used market for rpi3, I'm sure he will find plenty under $20.
I meant through kijiji/craigslist. I can wait it out, as the projects I have in mind aren't urgent or anything
Aw man this looks just barely different enough that it won't fit in my RPi 3 case. Would have loved to keep the case and replace the Pi, but it's understandable for the hdmi/USBC upgrades.
With early benchmarks showing absolutely massive CPU performance upgrades (which was the main issue in emulation performance) and 2x+ GPU upgrades on top of the RAM speed blowing away old models it should run circles around N64 now.
CPU benchmark compared to the previous PI. The difference is staggering
Wow, that's a big jump. I'm guilty of setting up a Pi 3 years ago and only using it for like a week, but... once drivers have been optimized for this thing and a bunch of cool cases are available, I might pick one up as a weekend project.
Not in the way you might be thinking, since they use Arm and not x86/64. Nearly all PC games are compiled for x86/64.
Mine'll ship later in July. Fine with the wait honestly...I think new cases for the redesign will be well underway, if not available, by then. But we'll see.
Regardless, this looks like a nice boost. They had to rearrange a few things, but that was expected.
Regardless, this looks like a nice boost. They had to rearrange a few things, but that was expected.
gonna wait to see when everything is updated to see if i'm going to make the jump anytime soon.
my pi 3 basically does everything i want it to do, aside from n64 emulation which isn't close to being perfect even on a hotrod gaming rig
my pi 3 basically does everything i want it to do, aside from n64 emulation which isn't close to being perfect even on a hotrod gaming rig
I put in an order for a 4 GB version, although there is no estimate on ship date, might be something that arrives in a few months lol... Can't wait for better PS1, Dreamcast, and N64 emulation.
Microcenter will carry the 1 GB version which is probably the easiest place to find it, but I wanted the 4 GB version for maximum capability.
Microcenter will carry the 1 GB version which is probably the easiest place to find it, but I wanted the 4 GB version for maximum capability.
So realistically, what is this going to be able to emulate well that the 3 couldn't? DC, GC, N64?
I can't imagine 'proper' emulation is possible but it should improve greatly.
N64 should be a bit better. Apparently the 3B+ is pretty decent at PS1 already. The problem is N64 emulation is only recently starting to get good enough for that hardware I think.
There's a patch for Chromium to enable VA-API support, though it's currently broken on Intel and nVidia because of some implementation changes in recent Chromium builds.
I was just talking with a friend recently about how I'm tired of seeing everyone on the Pi bandwagon when there are better boards for about as cheap, then I wake up and see this on my news feeds. Kudos to the RPi team for stepping up to meet their "competition" in this space in a meaningful way.
I'm still not replacing the Pi that I use to controller the fan and monitor probe temperatures on my grill, however.
Save it for the other thread. I agree, but that's up to Nvidia imo.
Is it reasonable to use this to emulate SNES games while having a Plex server running in the background at the same time so that my father can stream stuff to our Nexus 9?
Would the 2 GB RAM version be enough for that or should I go for 4?
Would the 2 GB RAM version be enough for that or should I go for 4?
Well yeah, not cycle accurate obviously. But "working" emulation maybe? That's just not possible on current Pies outside a few games.
I'm definitely going to pick up one of the 4GB models when they're available, but I'm also going to wait until they pop up on Canakit's Amazon store - I'm not going to pay $14 to ship a Raspberry Pi and power supply (which is what Canakit charges directly) when I can get Prime shipping for the same thing.
Hmm this may make a decent usb external hard drive NAS now for my Intel NUC Plex server. I am running OpenMediaVault on a raspberry pi 3 b+, but the shared bus for the ethernet and usb holds it back and maxes ~20 MB/s transfer speeds. Will have to keep an eye on a new build of OpenMediaVault that supports this.
so most electronics/computer sites will sell them (including amazon) and the price for the system itself has to be the same as it's an educational product, but their own site lists the following stores -
Went with the 4gb for no reason. I think I like setting up devices that I can emulate on, then putting them to the side while I play Xbox. Makes no sense. Pricing with some add-ons(since 4gb is not the $35 everyone is raving about):
