Man... thats the only one I want because like you said it just ends or you get that Debug Ending thing. Blue's game was unique due to how you can actually let his "brother" win and whatnot. It was great.
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SaGa Frontier Remastered announced for PS4 / Switch / PC / mobile, coming summer 2021, Fuse added as a playable character
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Technically when you "know" what is happening in Blue's ending, it makes sense, but the game just needs to explain it or show it better.
It will be interesting how they handle it. If I recall, the ending literally happens on the battle screen, lol. It's a potentially significant ending, but it was messed up because it literally just "ends" instead of showing you what is actually happening.
Square Enix's toys business only exists to complement their games business and for the occasional licensing deal, why would Xenogears be the exception to the rule? unless Square Enix outright confirms that they have no intention of re-releasing Xenogears, it's unwise to assume they have no interest in re-releasing the game.
Does this mean they still had access to the original background assets for this remaster, unlike FFIX for example?
Yeah it's the ideal upres. It literally looks like what my rose-tinted nostalgia glasses tell me it should be.
I like that they preserved that sort of CGI clay look to it
Character models are a bit different though (not a bad thing)
It's not an exception. Xenogears toy products exist to make money off of the Xenogears license and are generally a lower risk than an actual game because you only have to make as many toys as you can feel reasonably assured will sell to the existing audience to make a profit on them. And the fact that the Xeno- name lives on at Nintendo makes it easier for them to promote Xenogears without having to put in the effort to produce a remake or remaster of Xenogears.
Yeah, can't wait for more direct sprite comparisons. Some were obvious (Emelia's hair is way different), but I didn't realize they'd redone Alkaiser's helmet or redone Alkarl so heavily.
Everyone's faces and eyes in particular are so much more prominent. It looks great.
Not totally sure but it feels like they used the new good AI upscale methods for the bgs, I'm happy with the outcome.
The sprites though, they gotta be original assets at higher res!! They look so good 😭
Edit: actually looking at them closer, some really look like pre-rendered sprites like Blue and Red but Asellus looks more like pixel art? I'm not sure now but they still look great.
That's sound logic. Still, I'm not giving up hope until Square Enix themselves outright states that they have no interest in remastering or remaking Xenogears.
Fuuuuuuuuck this sounds so good. I can't wait to play this remaster.
Wondering if that means they kept the source code for SaGa Frontier 1 intact.
That'd very surprising, given SE's reputation of poorly backing up their legacy code.
Looks like the backgrounds were touched up and the sprites were recreated from scratch. Is ArtePiazza the developers for this, too?
I wouldn't say they need to change it. It is sudden and vague, but it is evocative and interesting. The visual effect is completely unique, too, and is probably more complex to implement than a typical death animation -> "The End" would have been, so it doesn't feel incomplete. And it certainly implies enough.
After all, by that point Blue already had his "final battle" and credits roll well before you enter into Hell. Hell is the epilogue, and with how everything plays out, with the battle just freezing mid-animation and saying that is the end, then the battle against Hell's Lord isn't the climax before the ending, it is the ending itself. Blue, the ultimate mage who commands Life, Time, and Space magic, is condemned to fight against Hell's Lord for eternity. The battle itself is incable of ending, so the game itself ends before the battle does. It is executed well enough that any elaboration would just detract from it.
I as a young one just figured
Blue had now mastered Life, Time, Space, and Death, but the trip to Hell was a one way trip, so he was the new Hell's Lord but trapped for eternity.
Red's hair still looks like a lethal weapon? Alkaiser's helmet still bigger than his entire body? 10/10 remaster.
The real question is, with the enhanced fidelity will White Rose's hat still look like a big white afro or will it actually be distinguishable as a hat?
Yes, that's true. It's an unorthodox ending for sure, and the credits roll after the battle with Rouge, but I think there's probably a way they could have given context to the ending sequence to make it not "feel" unfinished. We'll see.
I've seen a few interpretations. If the ending is such that
the people of the magic kingdom seal you in without telling you,
But knowing the theories and what Essence says about it, I'm fine with how it ends.
I see, that makes sense. It's one of those unorthodox endings that makes you question what happened. But unfortunately, with the way gamers are used to playing, most people end up complaining that it is unfinished.
I do think it's an interesting way to end it.
23 years later and the Kamen Rider archetype still isn't a JRPG staple.
Unbelievable.
Hat?
I thought she had a fro made of flowers because uh, magic.
As someone that has hated every single SaGa game I've tried (Romancing 3, Frontier 2, Scarlet Grace) this whole SaGa resurgence leaves me kinda bummed they're not doing the same with some of their other old franchises. I guess SaGa having a successful mobage really helps, but still.
They definitely retooled the Al-heroes to look more like their concept art, for sure.
I don't give a shiiiit what shortcomings the game had, the sense of nostalgia this thread hit me with is unreal, and I haven't even played the original in forever. Man. Cloning yourself into four and hacking the shit out of a dude while hundreds of gallons of blood go flying, turning into a superhero, recruiting a cool skeleton knight dude, boogeying down every time you went into Nakajima Robotics, absorbing someone with your monster/mystic dude and realizing you just ruined them because it was much worse than what you already had, casting that bullshit spell that let you take like eight extra turns, buying a bunch of stuff from the LP vendor as Blue then jobbing to Rouge on purpose to get it back, trying to fight a bunch of mega-powerful krakens in a swamp while drunk off your ass...how do I even remember so much of this stuff?
Man, they better have that thing where if you went into that one magic shop as Blue
Man, they better have that thing where if you went into that one magic shop as Blue
you would see Rouge standing there for like one frame before he teleported out, I remember thinking that was cool as shit as a kid.
Woah, this is amazing news. Guess Fuse's inclusion as a playable character means they are going to be included all of his scrapped material/areas/quest-line stuff.
I wonder if Fuse will be select-able from the get go, or only after you have beaten the game with every other character? I always thought that Fuse was meant to tie in all the other story-lines so the latter makes more sense. Anyway, this wait is going to be tough as hell, but well worth it in the end.
I wonder if Fuse will be select-able from the get go, or only after you have beaten the game with every other character? I always thought that Fuse was meant to tie in all the other story-lines so the latter makes more sense. Anyway, this wait is going to be tough as hell, but well worth it in the end.
SaGa fans should thank Masanori Ichikawa, the extremely passionate SE producer responsible for SaGa remakes/remasters.
He is a HUGE fan of SaGa (and Kawazu's work), was shocked to find no SaGa remasters and did it himself.
He's responsive to tweets, give him your thanks.
So the official site is up (saw it in Gematsu's article) and it has a little more information on that. Gematsu's translation says you need to beat it with everyone. I did a machine translation of the site and it suggests you only need to beat it with one character. That's certainly more reasonable. It'd still be better if he was unlocked from the get-go, especially for replays down the line, but beating the game with Emelia or Lute is pretty quick once you know what you're doing.
The official site also suggests the new content is just for Asellus's scenario. On one hand that's understandable - all the actual on-disc data that is dummied out and such is for Asellus (BioLab, Furdo, Kurenai Escape). If they were limited to what was actually started at some point for the game, then it makes sense. A lot of other cut content is more assumed (Emelia's scenario feels like it's missing a lot) or was just talked about in interviews (the relationship system in Red's quest).
Obviously, it'd be nice to see a lot more. But if we just get Fuse plus a better Asellus quest, along with general UI, visual, and QoL upgrades, I'll be totally happy with it.
Shit, this looks fantastic. They even correctly addressed the aspect ratio change.
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Heck yeah. I'll be all over SF1 but SF2 was great and is also one of my all time favorite soundtracks.
Wait is that the implication? I only played the game when it came out on the PS1 I just thought:
His magic went crazy and since you command Time itself you literally froze time itself. Then the game just ended.
Oh without a doubt. Kenji Ito is a Beast.
Top 10 in my JRPG list. Some people may not like it, but SaGa Frontier does something many modern JRPGs can't handle well simultaneously; Music. Battle System. Story.
Love everything about this. Also super happy to see Fuse's storyline will be there. Unreal.
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Never released in Europe so yeah, I'm in!
I wonder if they'll have the balls to remaster Unlimited SaGa down the line...
I wonder if they'll have the balls to remaster Unlimited SaGa down the line...
Yeah now I am looking up the game ending again and it seems Kotaku had an article about Blue:
That Time A JRPG Ended In The Middle Of A Final Boss Battle
Actually gives an explanation I knew nothing about. It was only the announcement of this remaster that made me think about Blue again.
I remember the manual for Sonic 3 had a bit that was like "Robotnik has these ....eh...really fiendish traps where Sonic will get stuck in the wall and you just have to reset the gane or wait for the timer to run out".
That explanation feels like that
Cheers to that! I have the original release and kept hoping for this to be revived in some way. And Fuse storyline?? Unreal.
Only one fight I'm not looking to relive again though.
Ringlord
Yeah, while I wasn't necessarily expecting a Minstrel Song level remake, as someone who has played through each character multiple times, this is the one game I would really like to see as much cut content included as possible.
Beating the game with one character to unlock Fuse seems reasonable, otherwise you are looking at 70-90 hours of gameplay at a minimum to unlock him. Which I am guessing is more time than many would be willing to invest.
So pumped for this!
First time I played the game, I picked Lute and ended up at the final boss like 30 minutes in and realized I probably fucked up and needed to start over. At least I didn't have a ton of progress to lose.
First time I played the game, I picked Lute and ended up at the final boss like 30 minutes in and realized I probably fucked up and needed to start over. At least I didn't have a ton of progress to lose.