Ryzen 4000 Laptop reviews on the wild, Insane performance

Eriol · Mar 30, 2020

Man i was watching some youtube feed and noticed some reviews, the leaked ryzen processors are living up to their name.

Watched some reviews already

It's one model so far and their variants Zephyrus G14 from Asus

AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS

and AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS

It's bonkers

Sedated · Mar 30, 2020

Yes cpu is great but new gpus coming up id say wait if anybody wants a laptop. Wait till black friday and decide then is always the best way to go. However if need is urgent then these are fantastic

Lant_War · Mar 30, 2020

Do these have Vega or Navi graphics?

Villein · Mar 30, 2020

4000 series is till Zen 2 ? or is it Zen2+ ? do we know if next gen consoles will be using 3000 or 4000 series ryzen ?

-Le Monde- · Mar 30, 2020

Anyword on when we can expect the lower priced laptops with zen 2?

Lant_War · Mar 30, 2020

Villein said:
4000 series is till Zen 2 ? or is it Zen2+ ? do we know if next gen consoles will be using 3000 or 4000 series ryzen ?

Consoles are Zen 2

Eriol · Mar 30, 2020

Lant_War said:
Do these have Vega or Navi graphics?

neither, it has nvidia 20XX series

ApeEscaper · Mar 30, 2020

Hmm how's the AMD Ryzen 5 4600 version i wonder everything online only covering the more expensive Ryzen 7 and 9 versions, should be the more popular processor in mid price laptops

signal · Mar 30, 2020

1799€ for the Zephyrus, yeowch

Eriol said:
neither, it has nvidia 20XX series

or 1660 ti

janoGX · Mar 30, 2020

Lant_War said:
Do these have Vega or Navi graphics?

Geforce RTX 20XX

Komo · Mar 30, 2020

I'd still not recommend to buy now since the cards now are outdated.

DammitLloyd · Mar 30, 2020

Isn't this Zen 3 7nm+?

kostacurtas · Mar 30, 2020

The Ryzen mobile 4000 series have Zen 2 CPUs and the onboard GPUs are Vega.

FernandoRocker · Mar 30, 2020

But why does it have to be extremely ugly, design-wise?

Lant_War · Mar 30, 2020

janoGX said:
Geforce RTX 20XX

Ah, I thought these were APUs.

alstrike · Mar 30, 2020

DammitLloyd said:
Isn't this Zen 3 7nm+?

It's Zen 2

iamandy · Mar 30, 2020

When I see this type of product, I am most impressed by the size of the value that a 399 or 499 console has.

MinerArcaniner · Mar 30, 2020

FernandoRocker said:
But why does it have to be extremely ugly, design-wise?

That's business as usual with gaming laptops, LOL.

The performance on these chips is absolutely phenomenal.

SapientWolf · Mar 30, 2020

FernandoRocker said:
But why does it have to be extremely ugly, design-wise?

It has "gaming" in the description.

kostacurtas · Mar 30, 2020

Lant_War said:
Ah, I thought these were APUs.

They are APUs. They have onboard Vega GPUs.

Obviously many manufacturers add and a discrete GPU for gaming oriented laptops.

Eriol · Mar 30, 2020

gigantor21 said:
That's business as usual with gaming laptops, LOL.

The performance on these chips is absolutely phenomenal.

i thinbk the ryzen 9 looks alright beign grey, isnt screaming gaming laptop. I prefer this ones before the black and red accent ones.

jon bones · Mar 30, 2020

for $1400, i'll probably pick one of these G14s (or similar) once my MacBook finally bites it. seems like a good deal for the performance, and it's still relatively thin & light.

Bashteee · Mar 30, 2020

I will wait for more notebooks, but it seems like I'll buy a Ryzen notebook this year. Crazy.

signal said:
1799€ for the Zephyrus, yeowch

Considering the advantage over the Intel CPUs at a similar price point, that's actually a pretty good offering.

faint · Mar 30, 2020

Lant_War said:
Do these have Vega or Navi graphics?

Villein said:
4000 series is till Zen 2 ? or is it Zen2+ ? do we know if next gen consoles will be using 3000 or 4000 series ryzen ?

janoGX said:
Geforce RTX 20XX

Lant_War said:
Ah, I thought these were APUs.

These are Zen 2 based APUs with embedded Vega cores. They just have Nvidia cards as supplementary GPUs.

DammitLloyd · Mar 30, 2020

alstrike said:
It's Zen 2

Oh okay just the 4000 series for laptop are Zen 2. Desktop 4000 are Zen 3

SolidSnakeUS · Mar 30, 2020

I'm just waiting for the Ryzen 4000 CPUs. If this is any indication for the desktop CPUs, holy shit Intel should be shitting themselves even more.

Lant_War · Mar 30, 2020

kostacurtas said:
They are APUs. They have onboard Vega GPUs.

Obviously many manufacturers add and a discrete GPU for gaming oriented laptops.

Alright, that's what I was wondering lol. Hope the desktop 4000 APUs ship with Navi graphics.

Eriol · Mar 30, 2020

According to some of the sites: " All Ryzen 4000 APUs are based on the Zen 2 architecture, built using 7nm technology "

Tizoc · Mar 30, 2020

jon bones said:
for $1400, i'll probably pick one of these G14s (or similar) once my MacBook finally bites it. seems like a good deal for the performance, and it's still relatively thin & light.

AMD Ryzen 4000 Gaming Laptops Start at $930

A new wave of AMD-powered laptops is among us.

www.tomshardware.com

Keep this in mind too.

jon bones · Mar 30, 2020

Tizoc said:
AMD Ryzen 4000 Gaming Laptops Start at $930

A new wave of AMD-powered laptops is among us.

www.tomshardware.com

Keep this in mind too.

thanks! i think i can squeeze another year or so out of this laptop, so i'll be looking in 2021 at the earliest.

Vulcano's Assistant · Mar 30, 2020

Come on Lenovo, put one of these in your next Yoga 2-in-1

kostacurtas · Mar 30, 2020

FYI according to leaks very soon laptops with Intel new CPUs (Comet Lake-H, 10th Gen Core) and Nvidia Super mobile GPUs will be also available:

Already we have some early listings:

Eriol · Mar 30, 2020

kostacurtas said:
FYI according to leaks very soon laptops with Intel new CPUs (Comet Lake-H, 10th Gen Core) and Nvidia Super mobile GPUs will be also available:

Already we have some early listings:

i hope is in same tdp and size

phant0m · Mar 30, 2020

Looks really nice. Sadly the 2060 Max-Q isn't really enough of a jump to justify upgrading from my GS65 with i7-8750H / GTX 1070.

maximumzero · Mar 30, 2020

Excited to see what the 4400G desktop APU brings.

JahIthBer · Mar 30, 2020

Caio Loco said:
When I see this type of product, I am most impressed by the size of the value that a 399 or 499 console has.

I think people forget Consoles are sold at a loss & Laptops for profit, but Laptops are overpriced to be honest, there is profit & then there is gouging.

xir · Mar 30, 2020

so when the 30XX series launches how long until a 2660ti?

Deleted member 20297 · Mar 30, 2020

Is there a review with Linux tested already?

theAllseeingEYE · Mar 30, 2020

Sedated said:
Yes cpu is great but new gpus coming up id say wait if anybody wants a laptop. Wait till black friday and decide then is always the best way to go. However if need is urgent then these are fantastic

I'd say go for the laptop now. Mobile GPUs don't release day and date with desktop gpus, so we could be waiting another 9-12+ months before we see good new mobile gpus, unless AMD and Nvidia surprise us

Getting this Ryzen 4900HS with a RTX 2080 would be an amazing get, I hope they release them.

grmlin · Mar 30, 2020

Please Dell or Lenovo , please give me a proper mobile workstation using this. X1E that runs quiet for example. That would be awesome. I want to replace my MacBook Pro already

Theswweet · Mar 30, 2020

I originally had wanted to upgrade my old laptop to one of these, but it ended up falling apart and I had to get a new Intel laptop in November.

Great to see these deliver, at least! I'll probably get an AMD laptop next time.

JershJopstin · Mar 30, 2020

Villein said:
4000 series is till Zen 2 ? or is it Zen2+ ? do we know if next gen consoles will be using 3000 or 4000 series ryzen ?

DammitLloyd said:
Isn't this Zen 3 7nm+?

AMD releases their APUs (which includes all their laptop chips) much later under the next series. 2000 APUs were Zen, 3000 were Zen+, and now 4000 is Zen 2. I'm not sure why they don't just match the desktop CPUs.

kami_sama · Mar 30, 2020

JershJopstin said:
AMD releases their APUs (which includes all their laptop chips) much later under the next series. 2000 APUs were Zen, 3000 were Zen+, and now 4000 is Zen 2. I'm not sure why they don't just match the desktop CPUs.

Because they're pretty different than the desktop CPUs. This uses a monolithic die unlike desktop.
I would think the mobile division takes the work of the GPU and desktop ones and unifies everything into a single die.
IIRC they said this has vega and not RDNA because the schedules didn't match. Something similar probably happens with the CPU side of things.

Keikaku · Mar 30, 2020

FernandoRocker said:
But why does it have to be extremely ugly, design-wise?

It's actually pretty decent looking for a gaming laptop. Check the intel equivalent monstrosities in the linus video.

janoGX · Mar 30, 2020

Keikaku said:
It's actually pretty decent looking for a gaming laptop. Check the intel equivalent monstrosities in the linus video.

Dell has the right looks for a gaming laptop on the intel side, the G series (I have a G3) and the last Alienware laptops (m-15 specifically) look great for work and gaming. Lenovo's gaming series also look great on their last releases. MSI and ACER have these awful looks, and actually, we're moving little by little into an era where "less is more" for gaming laptop looks.

signal · Mar 31, 2020

Deleted member 49611 · Mar 31, 2020

The CPU is nice but unless you can't wait then wouldn't buy it. They aren't bad but there will be new GPUs soon from both AMD and Nvidia.

grmlin · Mar 31, 2020

WillJoe said:
The CPU is nice but unless you can't wait then wouldn't buy it. They aren't bad but there will be new GPUs soon from both AMD and Nvidia.

Does the 4900 come with an integrated VEGA GPU? I don't need a gaming GPU at all, and something comparable with my old RX 470 in my desktop would be more than enough.

Poison Jam · Mar 31, 2020

grmlin said:
Does the 4900 come with an integrated VEGA GPU? I don't need a gaming GPU at all, and something comparable with my old RX 470 in my desktop would be more than enough.

It should have the new 7nm Vega 8 graphics. It's said to be notably more performant than the Vega 8 in previous Ryzen APUs. Add in support for higher frequency memory for more bandwidth, and SmartShift for better power-delivery, and you've probably got a pretty decent APU.

I don't think it'll match an RX 470, but it should be awesome for everyday use.

grmlin · Mar 31, 2020

Poison Jam said:
It should have the new 7nm Vega 8 graphics. It's said to be notably more performant than the Vega 8 in previous Ryzen APUs. Add in support for higher frequency memory for more bandwidth, and SmartShift for better power-delivery, and you've probably got a pretty decent APU.

I don't think it'll match an RX 470, but it should be awesome for everyday use.

Thank you!

I don't need the laptop for gaming, but it has to drive an external 4K monitor. Let's wait and see what other manufacturers do, I hope more announcements will follow soon.

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