Doubt it.
Scalpers are at home nice and warm managing their bots so they can purchase multiple cards in a microsecond.
These people are likely enthusiast who actually want the video card and use it themselves
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Scalpers are at home nice and warm managing their bots so they can purchase multiple cards in a microsecond.
These people are likely enthusiast who actually want the video card and use it themselves
We'll see tomorrow, but fair to say that both cards are absolute beasts this time
The perf improvements from SAM will benefit both vendors and as of now is actually better on Nvidia's side considering it works on more CPU's. I suppose again it goes back to stock, RT and the VRAM argument
The perf improvements from SAM will benefit both vendors and as of now is actually better on Nvidia's side considering it works on more CPU's. I suppose again it goes back to stock, RT and the VRAM argument
its good to see an amd I've never seen in terms of gpu development software and hardware.
Sam is very nice and proof legit comp makes nvidia respond.
I mean, I'll take any of the GPUs at this point lol. I'm building for the first time ever. Just ordered the Ryzen 7 5800x on Amazon. Once I get a GPU, I'll order all the other stuff. But it's been a huge pain in the ass trying to figure all this out as everyone is rushing to buy these new parts.
We'll see about this one.
There is no clear guarantee that NV's solution will work with Intel CPUs en mass so to say, beyond some very specific motherboard models.
And it's 100% in AMD's power to lock out NV's h/w from using BAR on Zen3 motherboards.
We always always always need competition in every market, you ever want to be limited to one choice.
Look at how much AMD shook up the CPU market, Intel would have taken their sweet time to transition into 8c/16t for mainstream products
Good to know, thanks for the heads up.
There is some hope when it comes to the stock situation - Kyle Bennett is saying that AMD's AIB stock is five to seven times larger than that of nVidia's. He does also note that AMD didn't expect to shit the bed so to speak, so that while they will have a lot more stock, they don't expect to be able to fulfill the demand that's out there. Quoting directly -
What you are going to see will be different from what NVIDIA has done.
AMD MBA cards will be in short supply up front. However, where you saw NV front-load almost all its cards, AMD is backloading. Once AIB cards hit, you will see 5 to 7 times the inventory released than what NV has shipped total in NA at this time. AMD will be heavily back-loaded into the channel. AMD is shipping ASIC BOM kits nearly daily to AIBs at this point and it will continue to happen throughout Q4. There will be a decent supply through Q4.
Now let me say this again as it is worth hearing. There is no way that when AMD was doing its projections for supply, that it could have even fathomed that NVIDIA would totally shit the bed on 3080/90 supply for the quarter, effectively abandoning the $500 to $1000 GPU TAM. NVIDIA has left such a gaping hole in the market that there is no way it can be filled currently. From my information and analysis, AMD projected to grow its portion of the TAM and will have inventory to do that. The sad fact is that NV simply abandoned its customer in that market and there is no possible way for AMD to fill the void.
What you are going to see will be different from what NVIDIA has done.
AMD MBA cards will be in short supply up front. However, where you saw NV front-load almost all its cards, AMD is backloading. Once AIB cards hit, you will see 5 to 7 times the inventory released than what NV has shipped total in NA at this time. AMD will be heavily back-loaded into the channel. AMD is shipping ASIC BOM kits nearly daily to AIBs at this point and it will continue to happen throughout Q4. There will be a decent supply through Q4.
Now let me say this again as it is worth hearing. There is no way that when AMD was doing its projections for supply, that it could have even fathomed that NVIDIA would totally shit the bed on 3080/90 supply for the quarter, effectively abandoning the $500 to $1000 GPU TAM. NVIDIA has left such a gaping hole in the market that there is no way it can be filled currently. From my information and analysis, AMD projected to grow its portion of the TAM and will have inventory to do that. The sad fact is that NV simply abandoned its customer in that market and there is no possible way for AMD to fill the void.
Yeah, they're all good GPUs, you really would probably be fine picking up wheatever is available
I got a ryzen and am upgrading to 5900x.
Shame intel isn't adjusting like nvidia is. They have had bad lucking going down in cpu size.
To be fair, it's not like people can buy a 3070 unless you get lucky at 3 in the morning and can beat the bots. It's either try and get one of these at launch before they sell out or wait until the middle of next year when stock hopefully stabalize.
This is the first time I'm actually contemplating an AMD / ATI based card since back in the Voodoo 3 days. My old built-in ATI card couldn't handle transparencies back in Everquest, and I haven't looked back since.
Now I'm hoping to replace my aging 1080 GTX for 4k gaming.
Now I'm hoping to replace my aging 1080 GTX for 4k gaming.
If these are competitive or better in raster performance and the HDMI 2.1/VRR work, I'm going this route. There still aren't enough raytraced games for me to prioritize RT performance.
Shame about the TDR with multimonitor setups, though. My Radeon VII had that. It was persistent, not frequent, but persistent. I wonder if AMD will ever get that resolved?
Shame about the TDR with multimonitor setups, though. My Radeon VII had that. It was persistent, not frequent, but persistent. I wonder if AMD will ever get that resolved?
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Exodus comparison:
Ouch, and those were hand picked by AMD.
For another comparison, Rich Leadbetter has the 3080 doing 115 FPS in Battlefield 5 (1440p, Ultra RT, no DLSS).
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 review: a big boost to ray tracing power
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Am I crazy, or do they not mention what CPU they are using (I can't watch the videos right now and can only read the text). I'm not getting results this good with my 3080, but I think I'm pretty hampered by my 6700k (overclocked modestly to 4.4).
They're using a 10900k.
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It's not bad, it sits between the 2080 Super and Ti for Metro for their first gen Ray Tracing.
I mean, fine, but these are still priced the same as Nvidia cards. Why should they get an out for being behind the curve?
The 6800XT and especially 6900XT are priced below Nvidia's offerings. The 6800XT was already rumored to have 2080Ti DXR performance. Consumers can make a decision if they prefer the possibly higher non-ray tracing performance and price vs. prioritizing ray tracing.
With 6800XT sitting there where will 6700 and 6600 sit on this chart? Just a thought.
Cause you don't practically expect someone with no experience to compete in something it's their first time at.
Benchmarks are nice but so is context. it's nvidia 2nd gen and you need to pay a premium for decent rt still.
does it matter if the cards outperform their equivalent in games with no RT on?
6600 should be below the 2060 while the 6700 above it I guess
6800 is better than the 3070 but also slightly more expensive. You'll also get more VRAM though.
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Interesting info from Kyle Bennett (formerly?) of HardOCP. Looks like AIB launch may have way more availability than the reference launch tomorrow in a reverse of what Nvidia did.
Do you think these cards are overkill for someone who still uses a 1080p monitor?
Also, I currently have a Ryzen 5 3600X processor, think that'll require an upgrade to run these cards effectively? I'm pretty PC illiterate so sorry for the questions.
Hell no they aren't overkill. High refresh rate gaming at 1080p is still my target.
Yeah, he left for Intel, then had to leave for family reasons almost immediately.
Yes? Of course it does, especially as RT has immediately become more prevalent with the new consoles supporting it. We'll see what the raster performance is tomorrow, rather than some once again hand-picked results (with qualifiers) from AMD.
3070 is fine, 6800 seems like a bit of overkill at 1080p. I definitely would not go above 600 dollars for a GPU at 1080p with current performance levels.
Depends on your needs.
No card is perfect especially if you throw in 144hz or 240hz situations.
I'd agree with the responses above. CPU is fine for these cards. You'll have the headroom for high refresh rate or ray tracing if you wish.
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In the US? Releasing at 9AM EST at retailers. Should be on AMD's site, B&H, Newegg, Best Buy, and Amazon.
Most new gen cards are way above that in practical power for that so you're good. 1080 and 1440p allow for decent downsampling depending how well a title was made.
So can AMD cards properly run VR? Planning on a build soon, and just need something around the level of a 3060ti/2070 for VR on my Quest 2.
Thanks! Is there a preferred AMD GPU manufacturer? I remember using XFX in the past, but wondering if there's one that's lauded above the others (kinda like how people say EVGA is one of the better Nvidia manufacturers).
Better off waiting for AIB reviews in a week. Tomorrow it's just reference cards.
Current RT is tuned specifically for Nvidia. Now that consoles are here that will change. You already see how well the 5700xt is doing in dirt 5, godfall, valhalla, black ops etc. Performance trajectories are upwards for AMD and downwards for Nvidia from here on out. Let us not forget that low level APIs still mostly suck on Nvidia hardware as well and those will become the standard this gen.
I really don't think that applies for RT with RDNA2 vs. Ampere. It's just straight up slower.
I can see AMD taking a lead in raster performance that widens over time, but they're never going to catch up in RT performance with this generation of cards.