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With higher than ultra PC settings and extra graphical features like SSGI... Without knowing how much these impact performance it's an apples with oranges comparison. DF saw a benchmark of Gears 5 running on the XSX and the performance was comparable to the 2080. Ask Dictator if you don't believe me.
I don't get your argument. We know how many CUs the XSX has, we know the clock speed and we know the architecture. Are you really trying to make the argument that consoles perform worse than PC equivalent hardware because that would be a first.
Even based on RDNA1 & 5700xt we can estimate the XSX at the level of a 2080.
I believe you, I saw the DF video. Just saying that you're underselling the difference between the console GPUs and the high end segment in 6800/6900.
I just don't think 30-40% is very significant in this case. To put things in perspective at the end of 2013 for $550 you could buy a 290x that offered 3x the raw power of the fastest console. Now $579 buys you 1.33x the raw power. Isn't that just sad? 200% vs 33% extra performance for the same amount of money. The 290x was a card that could last through the entire gen though.
My point is that your estimate is off in regards to performance differences. See link for Gears 4k benchmarks on 2080: https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/9199/gears-benchmarked-1080p-1440p-4k/index.html#Benchmarks-4K
53 FPS Average, which is exactly why Gears is dynamic on XSX (DF found the average resolution around 1700p if I remember correctly). 6800xt is 83, and 6900xt is 90 (see AMD slides) at native 4k. So an increase of 56.6% and 69.8% respectively. These new cards are much stronger than consoles. In principle I still agree with you. They won't last the whole gen for people who are chasing peak graphical fidelity, but you are underrating their capability. Also they are not going to have to downgrade to 1440p to reach 60fps, that's straight nonsense. Unless you want to throw hard raytracing settings into the mix which would be a completely different conversation.
1st quarter of 2021. My guess would be Feb or March.
They aren't really "targeting native 4K" though.
SAPPHIRE teases Radeon RX 6800 XT PULSE - VideoCardz.com
Sapphire now teases Radeon RX 6800 XT Pulse Sapphire today revealed the first render of its upcoming custom Radeon RX 6800 XT graphics card from the PULSE series. The manufacturer already published a render of its NITRO+ series, which means that Sapphire has two custom models in development...
videocardz.com
ASUS Warns of Low AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT Stock at Launch, AIB Custom Cards To Launch 1-2 Weeks Later
ASUS's Nordic representative has warned of low AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT graphics card stock at launch & AIB model availability 1-2 weeks later.
wccftech.com
This is a bad news for gamers. Hopefully retailers will not sell everything to miners.
Not really and I doubt that miners will be in any better position to get these cards than all the rest of potential buyers.
AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT and RX 6800 Geekbench (OpenCL) benchmarks leaked - VideoCardz.com
Compute performance of Radeon RX 6800 series leaks. AMD Radeon RX 6800 and RX 6800 XT OpenCL performance At Geekbench the alleged benchmark result of the upcoming Radeon RX 6800 series have been spotted by APISAK. These are, unfortunately, the Geekbench 4.4 results (the software’s 5.1.2 version...
videocardz.com
RDNA isn't going to show anything stellar against Ampere in compute benchmarks.
Ampere is significantly ahead in pure flops crunching metrics.
It's also absolutely unknown at the moment how the cache thing will influence compute applications. It may well end up being somewhat useless there.
Radeon will have less difficulty to remain in stock. That's good
Hoping to grab a 6800 XT and then when an update drops for my Bios either a 5600x or 5800x...
Time for me to go full Team Red for the first time EVER!
Time for me to go full Team Red for the first time EVER!
Taking Teraflops as gospel here, the 290x wasn't even 2x faster than the PS4/7870.
I think people really are underestimating how good the PS4 was to make the new Consoles sound better, really the PS4 was amazing for $400, the Xbox One was the exception due to Kinect, they clearly gutted the specs of the good ol Xbone so the loss per console wasn't so bad with kinect bundled.
We still don't know. Supposedly the RTX 3060 should be aroun 2080 levels of performance. The 5700XT was already 2070 Super equivalent, so I think that AMD will have a good competitor in this area. Mid-range battles are always good
I wish they took priority on that range instead of the high range.
Need to know prices and stuff, AC Valhalla got me really worried about next gen but don't think there is any point in paying more for a GPU than a next gen console since I'm only going to play in 1080p and not higher
Hi Era! I was thinking of getting an AMD 6800 XT when it launches, seeing as it's supposed to be quite capable and having a good 16 GB of vram. I'm hoping that would be quite good for productivity purposes, but something I couldn't see any info on is the ray tracing capabilities. Would anyone know a bit more on that regard that can enlighten the rest of us?
I don't think much, if anything at all has been said about raytracing yet other than it is DXR which is DirectX's raytracing.
Thanks for the info :) I don't feel very confident about the fact that they haven't said anything yet on that regard, but hopefully my fears are unsubstantiated and they'll have something decent performance wise. Might not be enabled for all games that currently support ray tracing, but here's hoping that at the very least it works well within game engines...!
Posted before? Well well..
Twilight zone where Nvidia is doing something that is hardware agnostic (Intel & AMD) while AMD is exclusively Zen 3
