There are still far simpler ways to accomplish that than an attack that anyone can see online.
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Subtlety is something Russia often rejects outright.
There is no indication that they're trying to destroy it. They're trying to capture it.
I think those flashing lights in the live feed of the plant might actually have been firetrucks, they were clearly going down a road in a uniform line.
They are not trying to destroy it, they are shelling the administrative area but that has no effect on the plant itself.
Just another confirmed War Crime by Putin all caught on video. Article 1 of the Geneva Conventions specifically prohibits targeting Nuclear Power Plants. They could try semantics of we didnt directly target a reactor but shelling in the overall plant is clearly not intended
Quoting for a new page. It sounds like the greater risk is cutting out power for millions of Ukrainians
Please remember everyone that the situation is extremely fluid and initial news reports may be inaccurate or misleading in their wording.
What Russia is doing right now is extremely worrying and has the potential for severe consequences, but until we know more we should take a step back and not give in to fearmongering a situation we might not fully comprehend.
What Russia is doing right now is extremely worrying and has the potential for severe consequences, but until we know more we should take a step back and not give in to fearmongering a situation we might not fully comprehend.
No. And if they wanted to they would need a bunker buster air strike, not these fools. This is them just using excessive force to seize admin buildings around the plant. Problem is ancillary issues like cooling and spent fuel rod cooling ponds being damaged, not the actual reactors.
Again, calm down. The main concerns right now are that this plant can cause just severe general power issues for Ukraine and #2 complete sabotage from the inside might cause a serious problem. The bombs and shooting, not so much.
I think the concern is that the Russian soldiers are a bunch of dumbfucks who probably have no idea how dangerous what they're doing actually is.
I still can't get over the insanity of destroying a nuclear power plant. It boggles my mind.
Absolutely insane and maddening that it has come to this. What is there to gain at all? What does winning even look like? Doing as much damage as possible? Where does it go from here? Very fucking sad state how much he is able to get away with, and that there are enough people still following him to even allow this. We absolutely need the people within Russia to do all they can, I hope Ukraine along with sensible Russians are able to put a stop to this. I cannot even fathom what it's like to be in that area right now.
True, but Russia isn't above just outright lying, rather than even attempting a false flag. Especially now that they've started banning all outside news sources, they can just run a news story about how they found Ukrainian WMDs, since there isn't a narrative to counter it.
Trying to create an environmental disaster doesn't seem to be what they're trying to do here.
Shooting firefighters who are trying to get a fire at a nuclear power plant under control is some of the most brainless shit I've ever heard.
If I'm a soldier and my commander tells me to attack a nuclear plant.... while I'm in the general vicinity of that nuclear plant...
...I'm shooting my commander.
...I'm shooting my commander.
How do I know? They are talking a lot about hot war with NATO, though.
We really need to chill. This is not the equivalent of nuclear warfare.
Horribly cowardly
For real. Fuck it.
I don't like Marco or trust him, but he is right on this one. I have to assume he is getting direct information based on his status.
And physically "blowing up" a nuclear plant would push fallout into areas like Turkey and Russia, so besides the massive self wound, it would easily trigger a NATO response as this would be classified as an attack via fallout. They aren't going to do that.
No lol. This is not the equivalent of using a nuclear weapon, Russia has not officially started nuclear warfare, and other countries getting involved in this conflict would ensure nuclear warfare actually takes place. Please stop.
staff post - chill out
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OK, guys, let's chill out a bit. I know the news sounds really scary, but we need to wait for actual confirmation as to what this means in terms of damage. It could be that whatever is going on isn't affecting anything critical and we're all freaking out over nothing.
I'm just asking for everyone to take a breath and wait for the journalists covering the story to do their job and report on what is actually going on, by talking to experts and people at the scene who know the details of the event.
Take a breath, go play a game, maybe watch some Netflix. There's no point in freaking out, let everyone do their jobs right now.
I'm just asking for everyone to take a breath and wait for the journalists covering the story to do their job and report on what is actually going on, by talking to experts and people at the scene who know the details of the event.
Take a breath, go play a game, maybe watch some Netflix. There's no point in freaking out, let everyone do their jobs right now.
Unmitigated recklessness, stupidity, and wantonly criminal. Even being in the vicinity of a nuclear power plant with live rounds is Darwin Award level madness. These reactors are designed for things like aircraft strikes...but just like Fukushima, the spent rods have to stay cool or there could be big issues, and a sustained power outage due to fire damage isn't something *any* rational human being would want to risk.
Russians being so desperate is not good for anyone.
Thank you.
Good news is that the battle seems to be moving further away from the camera on that live feed. Hopefully that means away from the reactors too.
fuckin' finally. maybe we can have some real discussion and sources of information instead of people who played way too much fallout.
that said, my question still stands- if they take over/damage/whatever the power plant is that when other countries get involved? not warmongering or fantasizing, just trying to figure out where the rest of the world stands.
This is honestly the most important thing. This is a target of huge strategic value because of how much power it provides the country.
Just shows a lack of training or using the wrong units for the wrong job. For a sensitive target, you would use better trained units to clear the building with small arms only. And if you have the area under control minus the facility, you would just cordon it until those correct units arrived to clear it out.