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BrokenFiction

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Oct 25, 2017
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Keep your eyes open:

www.bellingcat.com

Attack on Ukrainian Government Websites Linked to GRU Hackers - bellingcat

An attack on Ukrainian Government institutions and their websites has been linked to Russian GRU hackers, an investigation by Bellingcat and The Insider has found.


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Koukalaka

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Oct 28, 2017
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I guess the Russian plan will be to kill or capture the Ukrainian government as quickly as possible. Then install a puppet leadership that will immediately sign a pre written agreement with Russia. After that anyone still fighting or protesting will be labeled "anti-government Nazi terrorists".

Brutal and even more bloody days ahead.

The thing is, without Russian forces occupying the country in numbers it'll be like Maidan 2.0, except I suspect the revolutionaries will be less charitable.
 

Helix

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Jun 8, 2019
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I know this is an English speaking forum, but that's how we spell Kyiv in Portuguese and probably that's how it's spelled in other languages, so maybe we shouldn't go hard on people spelling it differently?

it's basically old imperial Russia and Soviet speak. let's try to avoid it as much as we can
en.m.wikipedia.org

KyivNotKiev - Wikipedia

The organization intends to internationally assert a Ukrainian identity and help shed international perceptions of linguistic relics of Soviet and imperial Russia by promoting the exclusive use of Ukrainian-language transliterations for Ukrainian place names
 

Deleted member 35478

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Dec 6, 2017
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Folks pretending sanctions will accomplish anything, as if Putin didn't expect heavy sanctions, hasn't planned stock piling reserves, or that Russia hasn't been surviving with sanctions for some time now. One deal away with the CCP for gas and oil, and the economy stays afloat long term.

So when is the Chinese Navy making a move on Taiwan?
 

Pantaghana

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
1,222
Croatia
Yeah. Looks like Putin is not actually getting any pushback from Ukraine people? I thought maybe Putin would stop and not take the whole country. Guess he's gonna go for the whole thing?
Ukraine doesn't have a natural border, like a mountain, with Russia, just a line in an open field.

Open fields are kinda hard to fortify and easy to move over.
 

Deleted member 4614

Oct 25, 2017
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One thing that hasn't been discussed but this could cause a humanitarian crisis that dwarfs Syria. Europe is going to want to come down hard because they are not going to be able to handle the massive influx of refugees

Honestly I'm not sure they can handle a war with Russia either.
 

KingSnake

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Oct 25, 2017
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Folks pretending sanctions will accomplish anything, as if Putin didn't expect heavy sanctions, hasn't planned stock piling reserves, or that Russia hasn't been surviving with sanctions for some time now. One deal away with the CCP for gas and oil, and the economy stays afloat long term.

Nothing from what you wrote here is valid.
 

StereoVSN

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Nov 1, 2017
13,620
Eastern US
Folks pretending sanctions will accomplish anything, as if Putin didn't expect heavy sanctions, hasn't planned stock piling reserves, or that Russia hasn't been surviving with sanctions for some time now. One deal away with the CCP for gas and oil, and the economy stays afloat long term.

So when is the Chinese Navy making a move on Taiwan?
Not until next CCP congress later in the year when Xi is going to get his 3rd (and more ) term.
 

Maquiladora

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Nov 16, 2017
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The thing is, without Russian forces occupying the country in numbers it'll be like Maidan 2.0, except I suspect the revolutionaries will be less charitable.

Well Putin's spokesman Peskov today said that they plan to "purge" their enemies. I expect to see mass arrests and killings to strike terror into the population.

Hope I am wrong but I think there are horrific days ahead.
 

Mentalist

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Mar 14, 2019
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Ukrainian National Guard reporting that the captured airport near Kyiv was destroyed by Ukrainian artillery to prevent the enemy from establishing a land bridge,

Tank columns trying to capture Sumy and Chernihiv in the NE, but there's a lot of the western anti-armor weapons there, so they're taking heavy losses.

Unclear what's happening in Kherson.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I know this is an English speaking forum, but that's how we spell Kyiv in Portuguese and probably that's how it's spelled in other languages, so maybe we shouldn't go hard on people spelling it differently?

For sure. Kyiv is the accepted English transliteration, but there will be different spellings in different languages, especially since the base alphabets are going to be different. For example, in French Путин is transliterated as Poutine, not Putin.
 

Mezentine

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have this horrible feeling that this is going to be wrapped up in a week or less and the global response is more or less going to be a shrug. Some nominal sanctions, some nominal aid, and back to "normal"
 

crazillo

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Apr 5, 2018
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Former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder has commented on the situation on LinkedIn. He does not resign form his Gazprom lobbying position. Calls for deescalation, says there were multiple mistakes on all sides, but war is not the solution and unjustified. This is a weak statement as expected.

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horkrux

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Oct 27, 2017
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Folks pretending sanctions will accomplish anything, as if Putin didn't expect heavy sanctions, hasn't planned stock piling reserves, or that Russia hasn't been surviving with sanctions for some time now. One deal away with the CCP for gas and oil, and the economy stays afloat long term.

So when is the Chinese Navy making a move on Taiwan?

How capable is the Chinese military even? I doubt they could pull off an invasion, and then there's also the uncertainty about the US getting involved, which would let an attack end in disaster. They're also way more concerned about their economy.
 

mbpm

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have this horrible feeling that this is going to be wrapped up in a week or less and the global response is more or less going to be a shrug. Some nominal sanctions, some nominal aid, and back to "normal"
As noted Ukraine's plan from the start seems to have been insurgency. If that is the case things should not wrap up in that time
 

CortexVortex

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Oct 30, 2017
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Former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder has commented on the situation on LinkedIn. He does not resign form his Gazprom lobbying position. Calls for deescalation, says there were multiple mistakes on all sides, but war is not the solution and unjustified. This is a weak statement.

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Lets be honest here, did you really expect something better from him...?
 

Landy828

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Oct 26, 2017
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Just saw a Russian helicopter up close laying in an open field on youtube. Looks like the ones flying in other videos. Tons of "battle damage". Don't know what happened to the crew, no-one in it, but it's pretty shot up/damaged.

Hope Russia takes huge losses in every way from this.
 

Streusel

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Dec 28, 2017
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Former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder has commented on the situation on LinkedIn. He does not resign form his Gazprom lobbying position. Calls for deescalation, says there were multiple mistakes on all sides, but war is not the solution and unjustified. This is a weak statement.

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guy should be expelled from germany, biggest traitor the german left has ever seen
 

Sonix

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Aug 3, 2020
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Former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder has commented on the situation on LinkedIn. He does not resign form his Gazprom lobbying position. Calls for deescalation, says there were multiple mistakes on all sides, but war is not the solution and unjustified. This is a weak statement.

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He is also calling to not cut all ties with russia, especially his money transfers from Gazprom I suppose. Fuck this asshole.
 

Pokémon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder has commented on the situation on LinkedIn. He does not resign form his Gazprom lobbying position. Calls for deescalation, says there were multiple mistakes on all sides, but war is not the solution and unjustified. This is a weak statement as expected.

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I hate this man so goddamm much.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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How capable is the Chinese military even? I doubt they could pull off an invasion, and then there's also the uncertainty about the US getting involved, which would let an attack end in disaster. They're also way more concerned about their economy.
They are advancing technologically militarily at an unprecedented clip. No nation will be able to oppose them in 5-10 years.