I've been saying this ever since people first started worrying that Trump might not accept defeat: none of his allies want to be associated with an attempted coup. They will all turn on him if that happens.
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Rupert Murdoch-owned US outlets turn on Trump, urging him to act with 'grace'
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Doesn't Trump's voters want him to go out fighting? Bowing out gracefully would be to destroy his legacy with his base. And for the rest of the sane world there's nothing to protect.
"Mr Trump's legacy will be diminished greatly if his final act is a bitter refusal to accept a legitimate defeat"
I don't know what's the most hilarious word here, "legacy" or "if".
I don't know what's the most hilarious word here, "legacy" or "if".
It's hilarious they think there's any sort of "legacy" to hold onto, and that exiting the stage like a child wouldn't be any different from the last 4 years...like at all.
Rupert has always thrown losers under a bus.
He's also going to be wary of Trump trying to set up a competing network. If he thinks it has a chance for a second I would expect to see Fox really, really try to destroy Trump, with something like a statutory rape accusation.
He's also going to be wary of Trump trying to set up a competing network. If he thinks it has a chance for a second I would expect to see Fox really, really try to destroy Trump, with something like a statutory rape accusation.
They think their core audience is stupid, yes; much like they presumably also believe the sky is blue and water is wet.
Trump has outlived his usefulness so they're leaving the sinking ship. It's really nothing more complicated than that.
Murdoch and other right wing pundits : "why won't this pesky Deep State toothpaste go back in the tube?"
There has always been a segment of the right wing sphere that was explicitly selling the lie, and there was a substantially larger group buying it up. This exchange is what's happening all over the country:
There is Crenshaw saying, "welp, the jig is probably up, live to fight another day, see y'all in 2022, gg" and there is the QANON lady thinking that we are headed for 1000 years of darkness if Trump isn't declared the winner and we don't put his enemies' heads on spikes like Bannon suggests. They fermented outright batshittery for years, they can't just pivot back to respectable politics without deprogramming these people.
There has always been a segment of the right wing sphere that was explicitly selling the lie, and there was a substantially larger group buying it up. This exchange is what's happening all over the country:
There is Crenshaw saying, "welp, the jig is probably up, live to fight another day, see y'all in 2022, gg" and there is the QANON lady thinking that we are headed for 1000 years of darkness if Trump isn't declared the winner and we don't put his enemies' heads on spikes like Bannon suggests. They fermented outright batshittery for years, they can't just pivot back to respectable politics without deprogramming these people.
Im not worried about that. Trump, for better or worse, had unique charisma that kept him relevant for decades longer than he should have been. His moronic kids are black holes of charisma.
Crazy how we say "state media bad" then allow a few billionaires to so obviously coordinat media coverage!!
It's exactly this. Donald Trump is in the way of the current agenda and his flailing about is distracting and drawing resources from it. He's a dead man politically that refuses to accept it. They're salvaging his claims that there might be fraud while pushing him out the door at the same time. They're not going to be able to separate him from his base as easily as Murdoch would like because hes the head of a cult more than a president.
Yup, he's petty and vengeful too. He'll spend his next two(last) months of visibility putting them against the GOP to destroy it for failing him and turn them into independent or at least apathetic voters. He could literally split the party for betraying him and they do fit the deep state narrative he's been spinning the whole time. "It turns out the republicans were the deep state mocking me the whole time, especially Mitch McConnel and the AZ and GA GOP. Don't trust them, destroy them for failing me"
It's great when Crenshaw, who was an administrator of a (pretty racist) tea party facebook group, is trying to be the reasonable one in the party. Can't overstate how much the republican party is broken. like the tea party republicans are trying to talk sense into the q-anon republicans jfc
After enabling his dangerous rhetoric for years, NOW they're worried?.
I mean I am so relieved they are not egging him on, but they can go promptly fuck themselves. This is their monster.
I mean I am so relieved they are not egging him on, but they can go promptly fuck themselves. This is their monster.
I think Trump knows he lost. He's trying to push a deep state controversy so its harder to prosecute him for his crimes after the election.
I don't see this having any affect on prosecuting him, just on how the Republican base views it. He's got state and federal charges to worry about and only the federal charges might go away.
Did anyone notice that in his last speech, Trump called Biden "Mr Biden" instead of the usual derogatory names?
Depends which ones unfortunately. America's deeply rooted problems aren't disappearing any time soon.
What exists now that didn't exist back then is a huge propaganda network to shape the presentation of events past and present to their liking and an audience that brought up on it that can't divorce themselves from it. Trump ain't going to get the same treatment Nixon got post presidency
Nah, this is just his pivot to seem more respectable, while trying to distance himself from Trump at the same time, like the rest of the rats that had no problem suckling Trump's teet for 4 years until the tide shifted against him.
People like him are the literal scum of the earth, willing to ignore or outright be complicit in injustices being committed in our country against vulnerable groups (Racism, locking brown children in cages) when they actually have the power to fix things instead. But the second things start to shift against their party, they cut their losses and dump the dead weight (Trump in this case) to try to perserve their standing and 'image'. Ugh.
Fuck the whole lot of them. The last thing we should be doing is letting people like that, in leadership positions and who did nothing but enable Trump all these years, walk away scott-free like nothing happened.
Fucker is going to resign. Can't lose if he chose to resign.
They know how stupid Americans are in general, and how short the collective memory is of the citizenry. It's on us to put these pricks on blast.
You just know, that in the next 5 days when he fully realizes he's lost he's going to tell his cult the real deep state was the GOP toying with him the entire time. The fallout will be glorious
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I'd be fine with that, then he can get the fuck out now instead of in January.
Man, when even fox news has turned on your racist bigot disrespectful ass, you know you fucked up.
Tea Party : Fox News :: QAnon : OANN
The GOP did this to themselves. When you foster this shit, it's going to keep getting more and more extreme.
Its unbelievably hard to deprogram people like that because you have to get someone out of that environment. The enviroment is literally everywhere. Any time they open up a laptop, turn on fox news or turn on their smartphone, its right there and its even in mainstream media. There's almost no avenue of escape once you go down that hole. Shit has been fully out of control since late 2007.
These clowns were the same people that enabled Trump and now they want him to act with grace? You reap what you sow
I said it in the other thread, but I'm now convinced the other news networks have been given orders not to call things until someone can talk Trump down from the ledge. If this thing gets called by a network, and he tweets to start shooting, his supporters will. Hopefully they have a plan today to get a dipshit like Ivanka to talk him down.