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Rumour: Magic Battle Royale "Spellbreak" might be releasing on the Epic Games Store (NDA’d closed alpha test on Epic)
- Thread starter Chairmanchuck (另一个我)
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Because there's nothing to announce for the greater public. No full release has been announced, not beta has been spoken of. There is no announcement to make until Feb 12, when the NDA for the pre-alpha lifts.
Again, the game is barely announced at all and this is a big fat nothing burger because there's no sign of the game releasing a full version at all in the near future.
Never, because EA already releases only on their store.
Hades is neither a full launch yet with not full version at all in the near future, and it's was announced as an exclusive. Other games is well.
I don't see the point of hiding it now when other developers stepped in and made their announcements as early.
Using Valve for pre release Alpha, Betas and free marketing and then going exclusive on another storefront while saying Valve doesn't earn it's 30%. That's a big fat nothing burger to you?
Yeah, the new Subnautica stand alone expansion thing. The ice themed one. That launched on Epic and Steam same day I believe? And My Time at Portia. That launched on both I think.
lmao, a BR game going to a client that has a third if even, the install base of steam. Thats fine, dig your own grave, never even heard of the game. I care about my triple A games going into the greedy hands of epic shit store, could care less about indies, since i never buy them. So they can use the scummy tactics to get some exposure.
Subnautica is still and old game that is being sold on Steam as of now.
My Time at Portia counts I guess, but I think we can stablish a pattern and a clear market strategy.
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I think though that if it just launches on EGS too, they could easily say it instead of deleting threads on the reddit. From what I can see the E-Mail apparently also states that they move away from their own launcher.
They did not use Valve for marketing or a beta in any way.
Expecting people to do more than reaction-post is asking for too much, I guess. The game has not asked for money yet--it's been in a pre-alpha state that used Steam as a place to download updates. Now that they're heading into Closed Alpha--Which has no way of being paid for yet--they're using the Epic store to let you download updates.
Again, the game isn't remotely close to being out. It's not in a beta. It has not used any Steam or Epic resources for marketing purposes. This is a launcher change that was supposed to happen behind the scenes because there's no reason anyone should have/would have known if someone didn't post it out their ass. It not being on Steam sucks as far as we know, but things could change when the full game is announced--or even the beta is announced.
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Nah. https://playspellbreak.com. Nothing there. They had 1000 at some point but quickly stopped that.
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So whats that?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Spellbreak/comments/a253yo/cheaper_and_newer_founders_packs_are_in/
At one point they apparently had them.
How is using Valve servers and SDK tools, not using their resources? In any case that's irrelevant at this point. They should make the announcement now and deal with it.
Same. I hope it eats into their cash cow enough that their current model of bribing becomes unsustainable.
So...you accuse me of being too reactionary while admitting they have used Valve's resources and being wrong yourself. This is getting off topic, but come on.
Is this where we're at now? Poor Valve, developers paying for the SDK and server resources, and then deciding to use something else. Really? You do have to pay storefronts for these things if you're piggy-backing off of their resources as a developer.
That's not quite accurate. While there's no store page or community hub, Steam is being used to host the pre-alpha.
That's very different from beta and marketing. Which is my point.
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You pay 100$ for Steam Direct (to be released on Steam for the storefront without being curated) and can use all of their APIs, storefront, servers, patch-servers etc. for "free" besides the 100% entry fee.
If a developer opts into Steam Translation they can even get a free translation of their storefront if they desire.
Edit: Misread. In the end the devs still used Steam servers for that though and APIs as you can see from the steamdepot.
I don't think they should pay for them (seems you have to do) but it's a thing that may happen in the future is these practices keep happening. In any case I was just pointing at the innacuracy of claiming they didn't used Valve resources.
Is a fact they did. I think, as I said, is irrelevant, but they definitely did.
I hope that even more devs takes that route. In the end this competition will be a good thing for devs as they will have more options and more money in their pockets. A monopoly - as Steam was pretty much - is never good no matter how people wants to slice it.
Having said that in order to be a viable alternative, Epic will need to step up in game in the features and services front - not just on the monetary aspect - where it lacks Steam greatly as this has been pointed out by many folks here on Era.
Having said that in order to be a viable alternative, Epic will need to step up in game in the features and services front - not just on the monetary aspect - where it lacks Steam greatly as this has been pointed out by many folks here on Era.
Yeah, sorry, I misread your second paragraph in which you addressed the pre-alpha being on Steam. I thought you were arguing that the developers haven't made any use of the resources Valve provides.
Do you pay the $100 fee to get your non-released goodies put on Steam? For instance, you haven't released your game yet, but you want to use Valve's servers to distribute patches. The $100 fee still applies. No?
Off-topic: The translation thing is cool as hell.
You say this like Steam didn't gain from this too.
Nothing really scummy about this, TBH.
Or perhaps it's because when the alpha testing started, the Epic game store didn't exist ?
Either way, the guys behind the game are devs, not consumers. And as far as dev cuts go, the EGS is the superior product.
You're right though. This whole thing is underpinned by Valve's greed in stubbornly sticking to the 30% cut.
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What do you mean by non-released goodies? You pay 100$ for each product/storepage, if you make over 1000$, Steam gives you the 100$ back. If you wanna release DLC, artbooks etc. its included in the 100$ same as the use of their servers, APIs, patches etc.
Sorry, I super didn't phrase that well. But you also answered my question! So thank you. I was asking if you still had to pay $100 if your game wasn't actually out yet. As in, you don't want a storefront page and any sort of marketing push. From the sound of things, yes, you do pay the $100. You just get to choose what you do/don't want from their package.
just remember sergeys wise words:
Just because a gamer plays one game doesn't mean he'll try other games in this genre or on this platform.
https://galyonk.in/your-target-audience-doesn-t-exist-999b78aa77ae
which for some reason he took to mean I should now endlessly try to prove myself wrong
Just because a gamer plays one game doesn't mean he'll try other games in this genre or on this platform.
https://galyonk.in/your-target-audience-doesn-t-exist-999b78aa77ae
which for some reason he took to mean I should now endlessly try to prove myself wrong
Acting like valve is the only entity in the industry that takes 30% is hilariously disingenuous.
They stopped using steam for the alpha tests awhile ago actually, before EGS was a thing. If you got in on the first 2 waves you still had the steam option though
If they want to have a slow and painful death in EGS, by all means, do it. Placing a P2P BR game in the storefront that has the most played BR F2P game right now is the most stupid move I have ever seen.
Sort of. You can no longer buy a Founder's Pack with a Steam key, but the Steam version of the pre-alpha is still being supported. They haven't shepherded people away from Steam to their launcher.
They aren't the only ones on PC. But the pendulum is beginning to shift to the other side, and they're the most significant outlier. Additionally, they've got a stranglehold on PC gaming at the moment, a whole lot of Indies depend on sales on their platform for survival so they're the ones that can actually make the most impact.
It's made even worse that they're perfectly willing to drop their cut for mega publishers only.
Oh I assumed they stopped all testing on Steam. Yeah that's not cool (still really like the game though)
They have such a stranglehold on PC gaming that devs feel comfortable co-releasing on GOG, uplay, origin, itch, humble, windows store etc, right? Or is the stranglehold really the one who is trying to get games as exclusives to their platform?
Dauntless is on Epic now? How did I miss that? Man, I bought the founders pack a while ago, they are keeping their stand alone launcher, I hope?
Yeah, it's almost like people choosed to be on Steam.
And it's almost like only Steam agreed to carry a whole lot of indies which aren't welcome elsewhere.
Not yet but it will be. Accounts will need to be merged with an Epic account as it wil be exclusive to the store. It was probably easier for them to go this route since they are planning a mobile version alongside the console versions with full crossplay and universal accounts. All that is already in place with Fortnite.
the indies rely on steam because most other clients won't take them until they're already super successful... And they can't become successful until... Yadda yadda yadda
but yes im excited for when epic game store somehow saves all the indies while at the same time not filling their store with hundreds of things and having discoverability issues
itll be great
No name BR game sent to die. Really disliking this epic atitude specially when their launcher is anemic when compared to Steam, unless they up their game i will not give a penny to them (and i really wanted to play metro but i Will have to wait for the Steam release).
Damn, I spent $60 on the pack and the game is fun, will have to install the damn EGS again for this.
...why would Valve be able to sue anyone over this?
I think the recent Epic situation in general is kinda not great for people, but Valve suing them is ridiculous.
he's talking about companies using steams infrastructure to advertise or test their games and then moving them over to epic game store
The Epic launcher being made available to other developers is relatively new. These games have been in testing for sometime. Pretty sure it wasn't intentional.
