I don't know. Some games like Anthem really benefit from a SSD. And a 1 TB SSD only costs 130€. So it would make a lot sense if Sony and Microsoft only support SSD drives in their upcoming consoles.
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[Rumour] Jeuxvideo.com : both Xbox Scarlett models will feature SSD, will be revealed at E3 2019, with Halo Infinite as launch game
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Same cpu, they'll just lower the res, shadows, and textures and call it a day. There will probably be just 1 dev kit and they can make both versions like the current X dev kit but without all of the esram hassle.
I'm in day one for Anaconda and Halo Infinite.
I'm still kind of surprised they didn't do that this generation with Halo 4.
I'm not sure that's how it works. Kinda doubt they've be doing this kind of push with that lack of foresight.
It has the same CPU as the faster Xbox. Only the GPU has less power but it should be enough for Full HD or 900p.
But history literally says otherwise. The most substantial difference has been that the older systems have been left behind. Except this means you'll be left behind at launch or buy the premium. We know devs don't aim for the bottom end systems, they want to wow people. That will come at the expense of the base system owners.
The console will be gimped and further, the push for streaming will require all games to be even more lag tolerant then they are now. It is going to affect developement negatively if you like games that push tech and are highly responsive. There is no spinning of this as a good thing in terms of pushing tech and game feel.
Of course, the market will most likely embrace cheap box with lag tolerant games if the success of BR is anything to go by.
Where does it say that? And gpu is used for many things like physics.
I'm afraid Bethesda games will still stutter and run like crap on consoles...
If they have to run on base systems, then that will be the target. It will be the limiting factor, or the baseline if you will.
It makes sense and it would indeed be awesome, I just don't see the price (at this current point in time) being manageable. Of course, as mentioned the sheer scale and perhaps smaller margins from the manufacturers could be a big help.
Still, until MS or Sony come out and announce SSD's, I'm gonna check that particular box as "extremely doubtful".
Hybrid drives seems a lot more plausible, as they'd allow for bigger storage (vs base XB1 and PS4) and faster speeds than regular HDD's (though, slower than the NVMe solutions of course). Plus they're a lot more affordable. A 2TB SSHD by Seagate goes for like $99 or less, while a 1TB variant is probably close to $60-$70.
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All Xbox One games are going to be on the next Xbox, unless they're going to abandon their extremely successful BC strategy.
And yeah I'd expect many big first party games to be enhanced on the next Xbox.
Yeah I don't mean it straight up won't boot. But if we look at the quality of some games on the base Ps4 and Xbox right now we aren't always getting quality copies. The same restrictions are imposed on these systems and the results aren't always favorable.
But both those systems had their time to shine. I just think having a weaker model at launch puts it in a place to be largely negated in the eyes of consumers and devs pretty sharp.
If those Lockhart specs are accurate than I expect it to be no more than 299$ at launch... maybe even 249$.
All MS games now are going to PC and that's not going to stop
Nonetheless, everything will have to be built around whatever is in Lockheart....and apparently with an extra 100ms of streaming lag tolerance now.
We don't know.
Though it's unlikely because of its jaguar CPU. It may have Xcloud though.
A discless cheaper box and a powerful one is a great strategy, best of both worlds.
It will be able to scale better because the memory won't be gimped like the X1S, like how the ps4 + Pro do.
A $249 box will destroy.
I don't get the SSD thing with consoles only because they are still expensive and all it will do is increase the cost of the end product. Let say they do put an ssd, will it be 500gb or 1tb?
Let's be real, everyone is gonna upgrade whatever ends up in the next gen systems. Just make it easy to swap out and pass savings to end user. If anything down the line we can just buy our own ssd and stick it in there.
What is a "killer" idea on the other hand is a disk drive less model. That to me is a bigger deal but it has to be same tech wise as the "elite" model. I'm moving to digital only nowadays so if that saves me some money, I'm down for that. (smaller profile system as well)
The only reason PS5 may not end up with a disk drive less version is bc they will want to have their uhd bd drive in there finally lol.
Let's be real, everyone is gonna upgrade whatever ends up in the next gen systems. Just make it easy to swap out and pass savings to end user. If anything down the line we can just buy our own ssd and stick it in there.
What is a "killer" idea on the other hand is a disk drive less model. That to me is a bigger deal but it has to be same tech wise as the "elite" model. I'm moving to digital only nowadays so if that saves me some money, I'm down for that. (smaller profile system as well)
The only reason PS5 may not end up with a disk drive less version is bc they will want to have their uhd bd drive in there finally lol.
No it wont.
It's no different then a PC gamer gaming at 4k and another gaming at 1080p
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Maybe. But if the cheapest option is playing from google servers for the cost of a controller and usbc to hdmi (using your phone or whatever), then $249 seems really xpensive.
Maybe. But if the cheapest option is playing from google servers for the cost of a controller and usbc to hdmi (using your phone or whatever), then $249 seems really xpensive.
I remember predicting last year that the xbox1x would be forward compatible with the next xbox, because diminishing returns. This 4tf xbox rumor has me even more convinced it'll be the case in some regards.
It is cross-gen acc. to this article so it wouldn't be able to utilize next gen hardware to their fullest.
Yeah, I think that's the thing. Microsoft has written this generation off. Everything is just about building for the future. So announcing early to maximize hype is worth the cost of tanking current sales, a tradeoff Sony wouldn't be willing to make. Likewise, most of their business right now is focusing on things that can't be getting them much near-term profit — Gamepass and backwards compatibility — but which do build a solid base for the next console. Same with buying up all these studios, none of whom will be able to turn around a game in the Xbox One's remaining lifespan, but who may at least let them make a run at Sony's first party next gen.
On second thought, im wondering if the high end Xbox will retail for 600 big ones with that SSD, that would make it believable, i just really can't see all this tech for 500 or less, the loss per unit will be enormous.
We got 400/500 dollar Consoles this generation because of very cheap CPU's, outdated GDDR5 (came out 4 years before PS4 in mid range GPU's) & slow laptop HDD's, even then there was a loss per unit sold, going up to a SSD, GDDR6 (or worse HBM2) & high end Zen 2 with the same price points is questionable, either the price goes up or a couple of things are getting cut back, like the CPU & SSD.
We got 400/500 dollar Consoles this generation because of very cheap CPU's, outdated GDDR5 (came out 4 years before PS4 in mid range GPU's) & slow laptop HDD's, even then there was a loss per unit sold, going up to a SSD, GDDR6 (or worse HBM2) & high end Zen 2 with the same price points is questionable, either the price goes up or a couple of things are getting cut back, like the CPU & SSD.
Well last year it was confirmed that Xbox were deep in development for next gen consoles.
So a year later they must of made quite a lot of progress.
Also remember the 1x was announced at E3 18 months before release.
Well that article mixes rumour and stuff their sources said.
That website is reliable, but be careful when reading, specialy if you can't read french and use google trad
I think that depends on what you mean by reveal. I certainly don't expect a "full reveal" where they announce full specs and show off titles, but I absolutely expect some sort of reveal or tease ala scorpio. They mentioned next gen last year, this year we'll get a glimpse, full info next year.
An Nve drive would be amazing, but really expensive even if Microsoft had one heck of a volume discount.
A SATA 2.5 inch drive is still pricy, but much more reasonable.
A SATA 2.5 inch drive is still pricy, but much more reasonable.
If the point if the console is to win tech showdowns and give good footage for commercials, and not to actual drive instal base, then $600+ for profit console is fine from a business pov; especially if they view this as the last hardware generation. If poorbox outsells $700box 20:1, i think they would be fine with that.
Lol why it not be 4K?
I understand that the games won't play 4K natively but if the One X can do so today at 6Tf that just seems silly to make the entry console not 4K.
I mean the One S outputs to 4K just not native. So how will they market that? Just strip all 4K from Lockhart when it could do some 4K or have one be sorta 4K and one be super 4K?
Just trying to figure out the marketing here.
So if you're making a next gen only game and you want it to run on a 4TF machine would it hold back a 10TF PS5 or a 12TF Xbox Anaconda? As a third party that is.
That's my fear. I know games are scalable, etc I just rather the base specs not be so low for the GPU
Man I remember Jeuxvideo from the NX days. They either
A: Take similar existing rumors and add one thing to it
B: Just straight up have bad sources
This info has been more or less known for quite some time. Not sure about the specs though.
A: Take similar existing rumors and add one thing to it
B: Just straight up have bad sources
This info has been more or less known for quite some time. Not sure about the specs though.
People who are saying E3 2019 is too early are really underestimating how much Microsoft needs something to talk about this year. Without revealing their next gen console, they literally can't talk about anything they have in development in any real detail. The choice they're facing is: reveal at E3 2019 and hype up all the cool shit that's happening next year, or, have a completely silent 2019... after a completely uneventful 2017 and 2018.
I really do hope that all next gen consoles (including PS5) move to having SSDs as a standard. This has been the biggest upgrade in the PC space for many years and consoles need to benefit from the significant read/write time upgrade that an SSD brings.
I'm ready for next gen, bring it on!
I'm ready for next gen, bring it on!
This is what ive been hoping all along. If i dont care too much about graphic fidelity and getting the latest and greatest. i would love for my One X to play future titles.
