Not that much affordable. Still way more expensive than regular HDDs.
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[Rumour] Jeuxvideo.com : both Xbox Scarlett models will feature SSD, will be revealed at E3 2019, with Halo Infinite as launch game
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Not that much affordable. Still way more expensive than regular HDDs.
you HAVE to put nvme as the baseline (if you put it in at all), because if devs can't count on it it won't be utilized.
nvme has a ton of technical reasons that it is superior to sata drives(ssd or hdd) and just because games don't use it now has zero bearing on how they can use it when it's guaranteed to be there
It's expensive as hell and with a very limited storage space compared a normal HDD. Considered the size of the future games, not seems exactly a good idea to me.
Internal ssds have come way down in price, most newer prebuilt computers come with them nowdays, makes a huge difference in load heavy games like Anthem
SSD with a good amount of space hardly will become that cheaper compared the old HDD.
Nothing new really, and honestly not a fan of the two versions approach. The high powered version will be superceded in a couple of years by a mid gen refresh, and the low end version...well sounds pretty pared back...no disc drive is a poor decision for a start. Trying to phase out second hand games again I see...I suppose they are offering game pass, so that is their justification. Not a good one in my opinion, but there it is.
I think monopoly is the better word than exciting lol, why Sony let Microsoft own E3 2019 still surprises me.
Every console next gen better have SSD
2020 and HDD still would be a joke and a huge bottleneck
2020 and HDD still would be a joke and a huge bottleneck
It would be smart for MS and Sony to have an optional M.2 SSD slot, easily accessible behind a small hatch under the console.
This would be perfect for caching, just keep all the data on massive and cheap mechanical HDD. It would keep the initial console investment down and the door open for power users to drive down loading times if so desired.
This would be perfect for caching, just keep all the data on massive and cheap mechanical HDD. It would keep the initial console investment down and the door open for power users to drive down loading times if so desired.
That's a good point, we don't want a Core Xbox 360 situation again.
ShamePain has said PS5 gonna reveal close to E3 in Sony's event this year, it's gonna be fun to see both Sony and Microsoft revealing their hardwares close together:)
Why, every year more and more are going digital only. If they can make the machine cheap I bet many won't care.
I don't know if it's wise for either MS or Sony to annouince new hardware over a year before they plan to come out. Unless Sony releases spring 2020.
As nice as faster loading would be with SSD. I feel like in this day and age 1tb just isn't enough actual capacity. Not when games like RDR exist with 100+gigs before updates. I think i'd take slower load times over the requirement to clear out my storage every month or so.
Because Entry Level is the biggest sellers in countries where the internet is garbage, they wouldn't axe an entire market to save a CD drive.
I think Sony was never going to announce a 2020 console in 2019 anyway, because they want to protect high PS4 sales for as long as possible. Xbox has less to lose sales-wise and more to gain PR-wise with an early announcement at E3. It's just a situation where each side's optimal strategy lining up with the other's.
Anyway, the overall specs seem about in line with expectations, maybe a little towards the low end, but going discless and with an SSD on the low end seems weird. Cutting Blu-ray is a good savings for sure, but the most budget-conscious buyers want discs. You'd be much better off getting those savings by swapping them down to an HDD and keeping SDD as a high-end-only feature.
Sony definitely has plans to Release PS5 in the first or second quarter of 2020! And MS already revealed Xbox one X 18months before it's official release lol!
I love the new console hype cycle, its always exciting. But we are at the point where we are so thirsty for news that we believe anything. Dont @ me...but i heard, from my top secret sources, that the next playstation, and the next xbox, will indeed, without a doubt, allegedly, have video games of some sort
I must be the only one who thinks having one console would be better. Realistic I understand why two so they get both consumers who want powerful and affordable but I still think one console allows full focus on those single specs and doesn't hold back the other console. Plus you think as a consumer sounds better when you say oh I have the newest xbox instead I have the newest cheaper xbox.
My thoughts but regardless I'll get the higher end one.
My thoughts but regardless I'll get the higher end one.
Lockhart is not disc-less too according to rumors, the only disc-less console rumored is Xbox One S disc-less ver.
For previous games, no. Games developed with NVMe in mind can do a ton of stuff with the bandwidth. Just compare the like 60-80MB/s we get with an HDD to the 1GB/s number that is attributed to these NVMes. Within a couple of secs you could have gigabytes of data loaded into memory.
One practical example would be that we could probably do away with all the load time masking tunnels, doors, elevators, shelves that need to be pushed aside. We should just have enough throughput to make it seem natural.
Lockhart will be 6/7 Navi tf count on it
In now way they will go under the X ...it will be minimum on par
Or Lockhart is a streaming box with some local computing power (they talked about this before)
This rumor says 8c/16t and a 12TFLOP GPU, that's ridiculous. A 13.8TFLOP GPU in 7nm is 700$ and consumes 300W.
Wel'll have to see how expensive and big Navi 10 is, but I imagine it will be powering rivals to the RTX 2060 and GTX 1660, and maybe the rival to the GTX1660, or something in between to the RTX 2060, can fit in a console.
The lower end Lockhart console specs make ZERO sense. The point of a streaming box is to be super cheap..because all it needs to do is have a solid internet connection. They say it has a 1TB SSD and is 4TF?? Nope.
Also revealing them at this E3 for a Fall 2020 launch seems really early.
Though the Anaconda specs do seem somewhat realistic if they're gonna charge $499.
Also revealing them at this E3 for a Fall 2020 launch seems really early.
Though the Anaconda specs do seem somewhat realistic if they're gonna charge $499.
AMD like to "embellish" their TFLOPS a bit, it will be around GTX 1080 level im sure, but im really not sure on 8c/16t, that seems a bit unrealistic, though i would love for it to be true, Intel have gotten away with putting a premium on 4+ core CPU's with hyper threading for too long, competition would be good.
Then again with Vega Ultra Instinct or whatever it's called being a 1080 Ti more or less despite it's $699 price tag, Navi 10 may end up being only a small improvement over X's current GPU, with the main improvements being higher clock speeds due to 7nm & new tech like primitive shaders, this is a pretty realistic scenario.