There have been some rumors of NV having some cards made on the Samsung 8nm node but nothing concrete as of now. Either way, they'll be extremely close when it comes to node tech. Die size and architecture is what will make a difference here.
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Rumored specs for NVIDIA's upcoming "Ampere" RTX 3000 series graphics cards (RTX 3060, RTX 3070, RTX 3080 and RTX 3090)
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I have heard those rumors too, but why they would tape their heavy hitters at 8nm if they also have 7nm available for them?
Either way there must be some wild bidding going on for fab capacity with all new HW needing production cycles from fabs.
That's because TSMC is at capacity for their 7nm node and they could face supply issues. Maybe they'll use that for their mid-range cards rather than the flagships. Don't forget that Zen 3 and Navi 2X are on the same node, not to mention the console chips.
That's why they are working on the Arizona plant. To have even higher output with future nodes, like 5nm
Referring to DLSS, not ray tracing. Its incredibly unlikely it gets widespread support since its exclusive to Nvidia GPUs. And you cant guarantee any developers will support Nvidia tech. Nor should you be listing off games that arent even out yet as supporting RTX.
If the devs say they are supporting RTX features im inclined to believe them.
And there is no harm in being future proof so for the "few" games that support the feature set I can actually utilize them.
Locking myself out of the feature set to save a few dollars when DLSS and RT are actual generational leaps in tech seems shortsighted.
And what about all the titles that were claimed to support RTX/DLSS but that support never saw the light of day? Ifs far more reasonable to list titles supporting X features when that title is available with said features.
I get that they are needed, but man, that is some serious engineering, especially for a reference cooler.
Just speculation for now, presumably a rebranding of the 3080 Ti. We haven't seen any real leaks of naming AFAIK so it could just be 3080 Ti again
Which ones?
I legit cant think of any off the top of my head.
Im inclined to believe devs especially those that have shown their games using RTX.
Maybe, but doubtful. Nvidia is expected to have MCM GPUs with the architecture that will succeed Ampere, called Hopper.
Well, if they use a single-GPU for xx90 snd Ampere, then they've messed up their existing naming scheme for Hopper.
Weird they would use the "90" name. 590 and 690 were dual gpu cards.
EDIT: Looks like I wasn't the only one that thought of that.
EDIT: Looks like I wasn't the only one that thought of that.
if they bring it back, they'll just use it as a new higher tier. not like people will care it used to be used for dual gpu cards
So....which ones?
Ark
Asseto
Dauntless
Darksiders 3
Fear The Wolves
Fractured Lands
Hellblade
Hitman 2
Ehh its way too many to list. Suffice to say the vast majority of the claimed support in that list never came to fruition.
Nvidia has been working on checkerboard SLI rendering and Hopper is rumored to be an MCM GPU.
TBH this cooler doesn't look like they are "scared" at all. It looks like gaming Ampere cards may have a weird PCB design - which is why it's somewhat believeable that they will in fact use "GDDR6X" memory. But that's about as much as we can say from the cooler design for now.
I would only be interested in xx90 card if they make it work in all games without SLI or any other special tricks and techniques required. SLI to me is completely dead.
So, if they use 3090 for a single-GPU, then go back to 4090 for their MCM-GPU, and revert back to 4080 again for their single-GPU, all this fuss for no gain when they could just keep their current naming scheme sounds rather pointless, though.
Do we know if this checkerboard SLI still requires a game-by-game update or will it just work? I may just wait for that setup.
I'd definitely prefer this. I'd like the tech to be transparent like it was with 3DFX Voodoo SLI back in the day.
Around 10 gamecubes.
I renewed motherboard (60) ram (100) and CPU (180) for 340. Now I'm saving up for a 3060/3070 when they get released. Usually the XX60GPU costs around 350 at launch, and the XX70 around 450, while the XX80 costs around 600 and the XX80Ti surpasses well the 700 mark.
I would love a XX80Ti, but that waaay surpasses my posibilities (I earn 800€ monthly which is not a lot (at all))
Sli never felt smooth to me, even with a reported framerate of 60fps or even 120fps, constant microstutter that made the whole thing pointless.
However they get gains matters not to the people that buy it. The point is they get gains. Back then it meant slapping two gpus on a board, in the future it means going the mcm route.
Really not worried about naming. I mean Intel has the 10900X and 10900K (different CPU generations entirely) and AMD has the 3200/3400G (not actually 3000 series processors). So historical naming means...not much at all. Hell, just call 3090 Ti for fun
Makes sense, it could be that RTX 3090 is the new 2080Ti, because apparently now number 9 gets associated with the high end flagship product. Both AMD and Intel been using it extensively the last 2 years for CPU naming.
Multi-Chip GPUs are the future.
MCM-GPU: Multi-Chip-Module GPUs for Continued Performance Scalability | Research
Historically, improvements in GPU-based high performance computing have been tightly coupled to transistor scaling. As Moore's law slows down, and the number of transistors per die no longer grows at historical rates, the performance curve of single monolithic GPUs will ultimately plateau...
350 watts for NVIDIA’s new top-of-the-line GeForce RTX “3090” Ampere model explained, chip area calculated and boards compared | igor´sLAB
Well, meanwhile there are several leaks of “pre-release” models of the upcoming GeForce RTX 3080, but I don’t really trust the roast published here, because I just assume design validation samples.
www.igorslab.de
GA102 die size seems massive though, likely won't be a cheap product.
Expect an announcement in August with a September release for 3070 and 3080. 3090 may be a bit behind, as well as 3060.
Are the Hopper gpus going for a 2022 release date or later? I could probably hold my 1060 until then.
He's decided to explain the TBP finally, as people were running with some seriously stupid power figures already.350 watts for NVIDIA’s new top-of-the-line GeForce RTX “3090” Ampere model explained, chip area calculated and boards compared | igor´sLAB
Well, meanwhile there are several leaks of “pre-release” models of the upcoming GeForce RTX 3080, but I don’t really trust the roast published here, because I just assume design validation samples.
GA102 die size seems massive though, likely won't be a cheap product.
Expect an announcement in August with a September release for 3070 and 3080. 3090 may be a bit behind, as well as 3060.
Thanks guys, for 3070 should I expect a similar price point to 2070 at $500?
Pricing is the one aspect the rumour mill has been dead silent on. Nobody knows what to expect, apparently.
until we hear otherwise, you might as well expect it. I don't think it's gonna use that expensive-looking cooler
Hopper will most probably be an HPC only upgrade to Ampere GA100. There's really no point in waiting on it for gaming cards - it is very unlikely that any "chiplet" design will be used in consumer graphics cards any time soon.
I recall the earlier rumors saying it would be cheaper but that was before covid so who knows anymore
if it's the rumor I'm thinking about, then the 60 and 70 tiers would remain the same, but the 80 and up will come down in price
Was watching a jayztwocents video about the recent leak and he (just throwing out an educated guess) said potentially $1500 for the TI card if there's a price increase and my heart skipped a beat
Personally, I think the x60 and above will be at least a bit cheaper versus their 20-series counterparts. But, yeah, there's really nothing to go on as yet.
Lol I seen that and I wasn't even shocked for that kind of prediction. But like he says it's all rumor atm. A bit too much.
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