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CreepingFear

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Any word on hdmi 2.1 or or DP 2.0? There are a couple reasons why I'm holding off on upgrading my computer, and instead, buying a new TV and the next gen consoles this year.
 

chipperrip

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Time to start pinching and scraping! I think I'll finally retire my 1080ti with this next generation of cards.

If I was smart, I'd have sold it before visiting family all summer.
 

BobLoblaw

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Nvidia reading this thread:

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That's the same reaction I have just thinking about one.
 

Roytheone

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If that's true, not having a mid range card to put against the consoles with the 3060 being next year feels like a mistake.
 

PennyStonks

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If that's true, not having a mid range card to put against the consoles with the 3060 being next year feels like a mistake.
They likely cant even meet demand for these cards.
The 3060s will be w/e ends up in the junk pile from the 3070/80, and it will filter down even further eventually, but they are probably getting 85%+ of the cards to be a 3070+.
 

Zojirushi

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I hope all those Ti rich people are just gonna sell their 2080Tis for like nothing becasue who cares. Sorta happened when I got my used 980Ti which I'm still rocking
 

DammitLloyd

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these top end cards don't match the alleged geekbench scores. so I'm kinda questioning which are real

The geekbench cards are most likely Tesla and Quadro cards. The ram config gives it away. Tesla V100 PCIE has same 32GB as the 124CU card. Tesla V100 SXM2 has 16GB, looks like they upped it to 24GB for the 118CU card. Finally the 108 CU card is the Quadro with 46.8GB, Turing Quadro, RTX 8000 has 48GB.
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Midgarian

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Please.. 3080ti how many gamecubes?
A quick search says that the GameCube was 9.4 gigaflops. If I did my math right, the rumored specs of the 3080ti would make it a 28.67 teraflop card. That would mean (again, if my math is right, which it might not be because it's late at night and I'm tired) that you'd need 3050 GameCube's duct taped together to get the power of this rumored card. What I'd like to know is how many meters of duct tape that would require.
The GameTesseract.
 

BeI

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I thought these were basically determined to be fake already?

If real though, wouldn't architecture performance gains likely put the 3060 above a 2070S and 2080? Even with the jump from Pascal to Turing, the 2060 could potentially perform similarly to the 1080 that had 33% more shaders.

I would like to see where this would leave 3050 (ti) cards though. Maybe with DLSS in the picture, they could potentially tango with the XsX with around half the Tflops.
 

BobLoblaw

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I hope all those Ti rich people are just gonna sell their 2080Tis for like nothing becasue who cares. Sorta happened when I got my used 980Ti which I'm still rocking
I've never owned a Ti, but I may try to sell my 1080 to help pay for this one. Stop assuming everyone who plans on getting this is rich. My GPU is from 2016 and I've saved up more than enough for long enough.
 
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Second thread we've had on the same rumour.

I strongly doubt GA100 is an x80ti or titan chip. That would likely be GA102, which isn't mentioned. So even if these are all real specs, the products listed are probably not totally correct.
 

Lethologica

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Oct 27, 2017
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You've served me well these past couple of years 1080Ti, but it will soon be time to move on.

3080Ti is the upgrade I was waiting for.
 

dex3108

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Oct 26, 2017
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I am aiming for RTX 3070, that is kinda best choice for me because i don't intent to move from 1080p monitor anytime soon but i want enough room that i can upgrade to 1440p and higher refresh rate down the line.
 
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Again, the market isn't even really competing. It's always been like this, so your "sweating" comment doesn't make any sense. Yes, I have a 1080 Ti, and those that don't? Why pick a console over just buying a 2080 for a similar (or even less) price when the consoles actually launch? If I did not have a 1080 Ti, and I wanted to play next-gen games in the best way possible for $500, I would still pick a dedicated GPU every time. If I did not already have a gaming PC, there's no contest. That same $500 is absolutely better spent on a console, but I already said as much in my previous reply.

On top of that, buying the consoles right at release has historically never been worth it, and they are usually purchased by those who want the latest and greatest, or if the system actually ships with a killer app, and those who don't even game on PC in the first place. The base models of the consoles get revisions and manufacturing improvements over the launch versions a year or two later also, which is another reason it's worth waiting.

Buying a PS5 or Xbox wouldn't be for the multiplat performance at launch anyway, it would be for any exclusives if you are already gaming on PC, unless you are on really old hardware. It will also take at least a year and a half before we get out of the cross-gen stuff and they focus solely on next-gen, and by that point Nvidia, and maybe even AMD will have released something more powerful for $500 that mops the floor with the base versions of the new consoles.

The biggest reason to buy a $500 console instead of just buying a card that will give you the same, if not arguably more raw graphics performance would be the SSDs, and even that is suspect until the games are launched that can show a clear advantage with loading assets over what is currently available right now on PC.
Of course the markets are competing. Both the PC & console market fulfil the same purpose. Your argument is pretty much that there's no overlap between these markets but that's just plain wrong. People move between the two markets all the time. Speaking for myself I prefer gaming on PC but if the value is so awful on PC then I'll just not upgrade and switch to consoles for the next 3 years until PC has caught up. I assume lots of people are going to have to weigh that decision.

The most used GPU right now is the 1060 with most likely some 4 core CPU. Most people right now have systems that won't handle next gen games very well. At some point these people will have to upgrade their PC and they'll need to decide between a console or a PC. They're going to compare the value they get from either buying a PC vs a console. Maybe a lot of people are willing to pay somewhat more for PC gaming but I doubt they're willing to pay 3 times as much for the same performance. Last gen you could match a console with a $500-600 while this time it will most likely be at least double that.
 

BeI

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Just noticed that even the supposed 3060 has 20% more RT cores than the 2080 ti. Could bode pretty well for performance.
 

kami_sama

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I'll probably get a 3070, but man, I wanna go nuts and go for a 3080ti.
I have a 1070 right now, so it's gonna be a hell of a change.
 

gabdeg

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Guess those 3080 Ti specs are what's possible with another massive chip but on 7nm. Hope it's consumer-prized and not like 3000 bucks
 

ILikeFeet

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The geekbench cards are most likely Tesla and Quadro cards. The ram config gives it away. Tesla V100 PCIE has same 32GB as the 124CU card. Tesla V100 SXM2 has 16GB, looks like they upped it to 24GB for the 118CU card. Finally the 108 CU card is the Quadro with 46.8GB, Turing Quadro, RTX 8000 has 48GB.
I know that, I think the gap is wide enough to give me pause. In addition to that, there has been some people bringing up the veracity of this chart in other threads

Here's the original source article. It's not about specs, but the clearance of 2000 series stock. It has the image listed as a rumor

www.chinatimes.com

台顯卡清庫存 新品Q3上陣 - 產業.科技

傳RTX 30系列最快第三季底上市,台三大顯卡廠華碩(2357)、技嘉(2376)及微星(2377)繼4月上旬開賣GTX 1650系列的VRAM升級版後,同步加速去化RTX 20系列顯卡,現貨通路開始祭出殺價戰,為下半年NVIDIA及AMD下一世
 
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These new cards can't come soon enough. I'm struggling with this 970.

Same. I skipped the generations that were good value upgrades and then needed an upgrade in a generation of increased prices and questionable ray tracing performance.. Been waiting a long time... really looking forward to getting a 3070.
 

Roytheone

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They likely cant even meet demand for these cards.
The 3060s will be w/e ends up in the junk pile from the 3070/80, and it will filter down even further eventually, but they are probably getting 85%+ of the cards to be a 3070+.

Maybe they then will drop the price of the 2070/2070 super to move it to the mid-range? Still think having only a 2060/2060 super in that segment while the next gen consoles most likely will be MUCH better than those cards would be a potential weak spot for nvidia.
 

ara

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My 1080ti is still going strong, but dang if its loudness isn't starting to get to me. Might have to look into these if the 3070 one is anywhere near a 1080ti performance-wise.
 

seroun

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Unless they have reasonable prices (which being NVIDIA, I doubt), I'm doing a big pass on these ones. Octane Renderer will launch their AMD software this year, so I will either go with 2nd-hand/cheap 2xxx or just AMD cards directly.
 

BeI

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Maybe they then will drop the price of the 2070/2070 super to move it to the mid-range? Still think having only a 2060/2060 super in that segment while the next gen consoles most likely will be MUCH better than those cards would be a potential weak spot for nvidia.

They really need some good options to convince people to upgrade their PC (with their hardware) instead of getting a console. Something $250 or less would be nice.
 

Edgar

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my 2080ti dont look that powerful compared to this , tho thats a given. Maybe if theres more than 50% performance increase i might get 3080ti down the line
 

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The upgrade from my 1050 (not TI!) 2GB to the 3080ti will be out of this world.

I can't even imagine that
 

Arc

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A quick search says that the GameCube was 9.4 gigaflops. If I did my math right, the rumored specs of the 3080ti would make it a 28.67 teraflop card. That would mean (again, if my math is right, which it might not be because it's late at night and I'm tired) that you'd need 3050 GameCube's duct taped together to get the power of this rumored card. What I'd like to know is how many meters of duct tape that would require.

I keep looking at that 3050 number and I feel like it's probably wrong, but I'm too tired to figure it out at the moment. Maybe in the morning if no one has corrected me, lol.

God I love this meme. It's one of the few classics that I always find funny.
 

Bosch

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The 3080 looks really weak. Only 10% better than a 2080 ti ? The only gpu there that's worth the money is the 3080 ti.
 

Tovarisc

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Guess those 3080 Ti specs are what's possible with another massive chip but on 7nm. Hope it's consumer-prized and not like 3000 bucks

That Ti spec right out of the gate for new node would be insane, but as node matures? Maybe not so out there, NV is good about squeezing blood out of their nodes.

Also if that rumored Ti spec is even in same area code as final card then that will replace my 2080Ti in instant.
 

Edgar

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That Ti spec right out of the gate for new node would be insane, but as node matures? Maybe not so out there, NV is good about squeezing blood out of their nodes.

Also if that rumored Ti spec is even in same area code as final card then that will replace my 2080Ti in instant.
how much used Ti's go for ? Cause im thinking same , my wallet is gonna cry tho
 

Tovarisc

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how much used Ti's go for ? Cause im thinking same , my wallet is gonna cry tho

Edit: "Used", lear to read Tov

It really depends when you sell. If after 3000 announced and lower end cards match 2080Ti? Be prepared to cut down hard

Edit2: My coworker already said he will buy mine when I upgrade and was thinking 500-600€ for the price. 50% loss from own purchase price, but signs are that lower tier 3000 cards will match 2080Ti anyways.
 

orava

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This would completely redefine the performance classifications. My 2070 Super would drop closer to entry level market.
 

Lys Skygge

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I doubt I can afford much more than the 3070 (I gotta save for the PS5 too!). But I'll be excited when these cards are announced.
 
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