Pretty sure rdna2 has ipc gains over rdna1 so it should be even better.A ~9.4TF (in game clocks) RDNA1 5700 XT is already a tiny bit faster than a 2070.
A 10.28TF RDNA2 GPU should be at least around 2070S (or better depending on RDNA2 optimizations).
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It's very reasonable to expect RT to get higher perf gains with Ampere than regular rasterization.
If it will be anything like that Navi launch a year ago it will be AMD who's going to look funny again when they'll have to cut their prices a day prior to announcement due to NV spoiling their play again. Jebaited and all, right?
Around $500.
Most current RT implementations are done with NV's direct help and via their devrel program which uses these things to promote NV's h/w obviously.
So you could tell me what would be a better investment in a GPU space between all available options? And why?
Same here. I know its overpriced at $500 but its performance is spectacular. I am having fun playing the games at great fidelity. I plan to sell it off at $300-$350 and upgrade to a 3080 once that's out. The experience isn't going anywhere. If one is OK with taking the monetary hit its fine.
When the 770 launched it was like ~70% faster than the GPU that went into the PS4 while the 2070S is on par with what is going to go in the PS5. Kepler aged horribly though in recent games so that's a big reason why it fell behind. I'm pretty sure though something like a 4gb 7870 would still do fine in PS4 games right now.
Irrelevant in the sense that they do not have a direct effect on one another, but relevant in the sense that they're both competing for the same pool of consumer dollars. If console price/performance makes GPU price/performance look really bad then I think that's a real problem for PC. But that hasn't been a serious problem since the PS1 days, arguably.
The price logic on this thread is totally out of reality.
At this point I'm just believing people making those sorts of posts have only been around for Turing and haven't paid attention to previous nvidia gens
The 770 wasn't the card that was considered PS4-tier, the 760 was.
To this day we still have people posting about buying new RTX 2080 Ti's (for $1200) and other 2000 cards over on the pc building thread which feels like watching someone walk across a room covered in glass while barefoot. I gave up on trying to correct people on every page; there is no hope.
Others still say "ya duh arr tee ecks 2070 super is still a good card to buy at $500". Well, no it's not. Not at all. For the love of god try to get by on your integrated graphics or an old card for 3 months or something.
It has been a strong reminder of the "WELL I WANT IT NOWWW" generation. Like ok great, your shit is now basically two years old already, straight outta the box. All of these leaks are basically proving that the current RTX lineup is going to lose ~ 40% of their value as soon as the 3000s are available. The 2080 Ti is about to become (probably) about a $500 card (the RTX 3070). And people are still buying them with their stimulus checks...
No, the 2080 ti will still sell for more than $500 used. Older/clearance hardware will maintain higher than deserved used aftermarket pricing levels simply based on demand for those models. But the point is that (what is presumed to be) a $500 card in the RTX 3070 is poised to match its performance -5%.
PC desktop gamers typically buy consoles too. Console gamers dont typically buy a PC.
This is absolute nonsense. Where do you guys come up with this stuff?
We know that XSX's 12.1TF RDNA2 GPU is basically on par with a RTX2080 (non-Super) based on the DF Gears 5 comparison they were shown at MS.A ~9.4TF (in game clocks) RDNA1 5700 XT is already a tiny bit faster than a 2070.
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Exactly.
The only thing the 2080ti really improved upon was the resale value of my 1080ti.
The possible memory size and minor performance edge in most current games could be offset or go completely the other way as the 3070 like Ampere cards are rumored to having significantly improved ray tracing capability in games that use it and more games probably will be as the next generation gets rolling. This is a terrible time to buy a 2080 Ti or any Turing card really.
If you can get that much, I would absolutely go for it, would go a long way to buying a 3080 Ti or probably cover the cost of a 3080 with money left over.
weirdly the video is at 24 fps, which really bothered me. Is AMD trying to saboutage how their card performance looks?
That's all you can back you claim of Turing being the worst h/w investment with?
AMD's marketing has always been terrible remember ''poor volta'' lol
Well, the type and the amount of reflections (and nothing else RT based there) does hint on some things. But it's impossible to know if they'll end up being true or not since this could be just an artistic choice really.
It's just a pre-recorded video, not a real time demo.
Realistically it can't be more as that would push x80 to $1000 and that's not going to happen with AMD being hopefully competitive now.
Well, then I hope the 3070 is around that. My current 1070 has one 6-pin and one 8-pin, so tops out (but never reaches tbh) 300W.A100 PCIe tops out at 250W power while providing 90% of A100 SXM performance:
So much for Ampere being power hungry I guess.
That's all you can back you claim of Turing being the worst h/w investment with?
Isn't the PS4's GPU literally just a tweaked HD 7850?
There is no secret naughty dog magic going on here like quite a few think, it's a standard 1440p resolution with TAA, outputted to 4K. Xbox 360 has been doing this since like 2005, internal res 720p & output at 1080p.
Which game exactly? I do not think UC4 UC4 LL or TLOU2 do reconstruction up in their TAA for the output image, just for things like hair, SSR, etc.
